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divot1338
08/29/22 11:12:33 AM
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COVxy posted...
You just described about 90% of the US electorate.
The way theyll remember him is based on two things. How we do in the midterms and how he finishes his term.

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action52
08/29/22 11:25:20 AM
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This talking point about the DNC "stopping" Biden from winning needs to die.

The reason he lost is because turnout in primaries is always low, and the people who do show up skew heavily towards old and conservative demographics.

Most of the people complaining the primaries were "rigged" have probably never voted in a primary in their lives.

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AablMind
08/29/22 11:32:46 AM
#53:


divot1338 posted...
They would have probably insisted he attack Sinema and Manchin and not get anything for it instead of being cool and passing the IRA and forgiving student loans.
People would also rather he attack Sinema and Machin and get something out of it. Also, the IRA and student loan forgiveness don't go far enough.

simp5 posted...
Yes. Forgive student loans. We don't need to give money to Ukraine for the next decade.
Agreed.

action52 posted...
This talking point about the DNC "stopping" Biden from winning needs to die.

The reason he lost is because turnout in primaries is always low, and the people who do show up skew heavily towards old and conservative demographics.

Most of the people complaining the primaries were "rigged" have probably never voted in a primary in their lives.
People that argue that point in good faith don't think the DNC shenanigans (which definitively happened) are the sole reason Bernie lost

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divot1338
08/29/22 11:46:24 AM
#54:


AablMind posted...
People would also rather he attack Sinema and Machin and get something out of it. Also, the IRA and student loan forgiveness don't go far enough.
Wishing for something doesnt make it so.

He got everything possible from that Congress and he did it with a nice big pair of wins less than 75 days from the midterms.

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WingsOfGood
08/29/22 11:46:46 AM
#55:


AablMind posted...
People that argue that point in good faith don't think the DNC shenanigans (which definitively happened) are the sole reason Bernie lost

but the question will always exist to what would happen if those shenanigans were not present and perhaps it would have spared us 4 years of Trump

oh well, I am just hoping they open their eyes and get pulled more to action close to his policies like what Biden is doing atm rather than propping up fascists and hoping to look better
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divot1338
08/29/22 11:47:59 AM
#56:


The DNC and RNC dont make the call on anything major when their party has the White House. They just stick to procedural crap.

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WingsOfGood
08/29/22 11:51:34 AM
#57:


divot1338 posted...
The DNC and RNC dont make the call on anything major when their party has the White House. They just stick to procedural crap.

We still have 2 more years and the assumption is Biden will run again but you never know. Infact when he campaigned he even expressed some interest in just doing 1 term. How that will shape up we will find as we get closer to 2024.

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/11/biden-single-term-082129

https://www.usnews.com/news/elections/articles/2019-12-11/joe-biden-suggests-he-would-only-serve-one-term-if-elected-president

Although if Biden feels too old at that point Bernie probably should too lol
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divot1338
08/29/22 11:54:53 AM
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Hed be crazy to say anything before the midterms.

Im fine either way as long as its not Kamala Harris. She is somehow more terrible in the Executive branch than in the Legislative.

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Sayoria
08/29/22 12:01:15 PM
#59:


divot1338 posted...
Hed be crazy to say anything before the midterms.

Im fine either way as long as its not Kamala Harris. She is somehow more terrible in the Executive branch than in the Legislative.

She's all about image. Nothing more.

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WingsOfGood
08/29/22 12:01:37 PM
#60:


divot1338 posted...
Hed be crazy to say anything before the midterms.

Im fine either way as long as its not Kamala Harris. She is somehow more terrible in the Executive branch than in the Legislative.

I am just saying that to your point about the DNC not making calls when there is someone in whitehouse. My overall point is more to the party shifting this way as Biden may not be the 2024 person but he also could be.
And hopefully he continues this path.
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