Current Events > Why is Kamoshida seen as a pervert? Yet Kawakami is seen as a good teacher?

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simp5 08/23/22 12:57:02 AM #1:	Both need to get fired <cite>simp5 posted [p:967505429] in Why is Kam... [t:80139382]...</cite> <quote>Both need to get fired</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BearlyWilling 08/23/22 12:57:23 AM #2:	Because boobs --- Hmm... <cite>BearlyWilling posted [p:967505433] in Why is Kam... [t:80139382]...</cite> <quote>Because boobs</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Prestoff 08/23/22 12:59:56 AM #3:	Because Kawakami is a women and Kamoshida is a guy... Real answer, Kamoshida was incredibly toxic and predatory while Kawakami knew her "boundaries". Kawakami was just an excuse for those with teacher student fetishes. --- DI MOLTO! <cite>Prestoff posted [p:967505485] in Why is Kam... [t:80139382]...</cite> <quote>Because Kawakami is a women and Kamoshida is a guy...Real answer, Kamoshida was incredibly toxic and predatory while Kawakami knew her "boundaries". Kawakami was just an excuse for those with teacher student fetishes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yusiko 08/23/22 1:00:14 AM #4:	well kamoshida outright tried to rape and ann and outright did rape her friend kawakami just views the main character as an adorable little brother type figure because i dont choose to romance her and turn her into a statutory rapist also i tend to play him as if he was gay and closeted so he just friend zones all the girls while only admitting to shadows in the negotiations that he likes men though he does hint to some others like taking iwai to a place iwai points out is more suited for couples and offering to pose nude for yusuke --- yusketeer <cite>yusiko posted [p:967505490] in Why is Kam... [t:80139382]...</cite> <quote>well kamoshida outright tried to rape and ann and outright did rape her friend kawakami just views the main character as an adorable little brother type figure because i dont choose to romance her and turn her into a statutory rapist also i tend to play him as if he was gay and closeted so he just friend zones all the girls while only admitting to shadows in the negotiations that he likes menthough he does hint to some others like taking iwai to a place iwai points out is more suited for couplesand offering to pose nude for yusuke</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kim_Seong-a 08/23/22 1:18:42 AM #6:	Because one represents actual crime and the other is wish-fulfillment that treats the character as a proxy for the player. Tons of video game romances are hella problematic but we let them slide because we're into it >___> --- Lusa Cfaad Taydr <cite>Kim_Seong-a posted [p:967505759] in Why is Kam... [t:80139382]...</cite> <quote>Because one represents actual crime and the other is wish-fulfillment that treats the character as a proxy for the player.Tons of video game romances are hella problematic but we let them slide because we're into it >___></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Turbam 08/23/22 1:19:09 AM #7:	Consent --- ~snip (V)_(;,;)_(V) snip~ I'm just one man! Whoa! Well, I'm a one man band! https://imgur.com/p9Xvjvs <cite>Turbam posted [p:967505764] in Why is Kam... [t:80139382]...</cite> <quote>Consent </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RchHomieQuanChi 08/23/22 6:31:38 AM #8:	Because Kamoshida was physically abusive towards his students and he literally threatened retaliation if they would not give him sexual favors Kawakami was problematic, but at least it was consensual and tbf, Kawakami was against the idea of dating Joker until he told her it was fine --- I have nothing else to say <cite>RchHomieQuanChi posted [p:967508611] in Why is Kam... [t:80139382]...</cite> <quote>Because Kamoshida was physically abusive towards his students and he literally threatened retaliation if they would not give him sexual favorsKawakami was problematic, but at least it was consensual and tbf, Kawakami was against the idea of dating Joker until he told her it was fine</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ricemills 08/23/22 6:46:54 AM #9:	because consent. and get your mind off the gutter, persona dates never ends up in sex. it's just your fantasy. --- You have the right to remain silent. Anything you posted will be misquoted, then be used against you. http://error1355.com/ce/Ricemills.html <cite>Ricemills posted [p:967508730] in Why is Kam... [t:80139382]...</cite> <quote>because consent. and get your mind off the gutter, persona dates never ends up in sex. it's just your fantasy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Foppe 08/23/22 6:49:27 AM #10:	https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/9/8/AAA_aCAADl7m.jpg --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>Foppe posted [p:967508747] in Why is Kam... [t:80139382]...</cite> <quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/9/8/AAA_aCAADl7m.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 08/23/22 8:09:34 AM #11:	RchHomieQuanChi posted... Because Kamoshida was physically abusive towards his students and he literally threatened retaliation if they would not give him sexual favors Kawakami was problematic, but at least it was consensual and tbf, Kawakami was against the idea of dating Joker until he told her it was fine Oh, well, if the teenaged student says its fine, then that totally absolves the adult teacher of any wrong doing. <cite>Esrac posted [p:967509530] in Why is Kam... [t:80139382]...</cite> <quote>RchHomieQuanChi posted... </cite><quote>Because Kamoshida was physically abusive towards his students and he literally threatened retaliation if they would not give him sexual favorsKawakami was problematic, but at least it was consensual and tbf, Kawakami was against the idea of dating Joker until he told her it was fine</quote>Oh, well, if the teenaged student says its fine, then that totally absolves the adult teacher of any wrong doing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ving_Rhames 08/23/22 8:11:01 AM #12:	Kamoshida is a literal rapist though --- the real Irving Rameses http://i.imgur.com/A7f6F9h.jpg <cite>Ving_Rhames posted [p:967509546] in Why is Kam... [t:80139382]...</cite> <quote>Kamoshida is a literal rapist though </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Poorly 08/23/22 8:11:03 AM #13:	@OzoneNeon time to face the consequences --- <cite>Poorly posted [p:967509547] in Why is Kam... [t:80139382]...</cite> <quote>@OzoneNeon time to face the consequences </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OzoneNeon 08/23/22 8:12:38 AM #14:	Ricemills posted... because consent. and get your mind off the gutter, persona dates never ends up in sex. it's just your fantasy. Bruh, have you played the games? They always end in sex >_> That's how it's always been since 3 --- NeonOctopus's alt >_> <cite>OzoneNeon posted [p:967509565] in Why is Kam... [t:80139382]...</cite> <quote>Ricemills posted... </cite><quote>because consent. and get your mind off the gutter, persona dates never ends up in sex. it's just your fantasy.</quote>Bruh, have you played the games? They always end in sex >_> That's how it's always been since 3</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 08/23/22 8:28:04 AM #15:	This does remind me though. I'm over 30 now, compared to my early 20s when I first played the Persona games. It definitely feels different to have teenage girls throwing themselves at your self-insert player character when you're older. When I get around to playing P5R, I'll probably just have to romance Kawakami just because it'd be a little less awkward for me as an adult player. Maybe if P4G hadn't made Kashiwagi so awful. <cite>Esrac posted [p:967509768] in Why is Kam... [t:80139382]...</cite> <quote>This does remind me though. I'm over 30 now, compared to my early 20s when I first played the Persona games. It definitely feels different to have teenage girls throwing themselves at your self-insert player character when you're older. When I get around to playing P5R, I'll probably just have to romance Kawakami just because it'd be a little less awkward for me as an adult player. Maybe if P4G hadn't made Kashiwagi so awful.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RchHomieQuanChi 08/23/22 8:31:06 AM #16:	Esrac posted... Oh, well, if the teenaged student says its fine, then that totally absolves the adult teacher of any wrong doing. I'm not saying it's right, but there are valid reasons for why Kamoshida and Kawakami get treated differently in the story --- I have nothing else to say <cite>RchHomieQuanChi posted [p:967509816] in Why is Kam... [t:80139382]...</cite> <quote>Esrac posted... </cite><quote>Oh, well, if the teenaged student says its fine, then that totally absolves the adult teacher of any wrong doing.</quote>I'm not saying it's right, but there are valid reasons for why Kamoshida and Kawakami get treated differently in the story</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solar_Crimson 08/23/22 8:37:16 AM #18:	Kim_Seong-a posted... Because one represents actual crime and the other is wish-fulfillment that treats the character as a proxy for the player. RchHomieQuanChi posted... Because Kamoshida was physically abusive towards his students and he literally threatened retaliation if they would not give him sexual favors Kawakami was problematic, but at least it was consensual and tbf, Kawakami was against the idea of dating Joker until he told her it was fine --- "To Republicans, life begins at conception and ends in elementary school." - GranolaPanic <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:967509896] in Why is Kam... [t:80139382]...</cite> <quote>Kim_Seong-a posted... </cite><quote>Because one represents actual crime and the other is wish-fulfillment that treats the character as a proxy for the player.</quote>RchHomieQuanChi posted... </cite><quote>Because Kamoshida was physically abusive towards his students and he literally threatened retaliation if they would not give him sexual favorsKawakami was problematic, but at least it was consensual and tbf, Kawakami was against the idea of dating Joker until he told her it was fine</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
uwnim 08/23/22 8:46:05 AM #19:	Kamoshida abused every student he had power over. He was an absolute piece of shit. Kawakami doesn't do anything remotely close to that. --- I want a pet Lavos Spawn. [Order of the Cetaceans: Phocoena dioptrica] <cite>uwnim posted [p:967509998] in Why is Kam... [t:80139382]...</cite> <quote>Kamoshida abused every student he had power over. He was an absolute piece of shit. Kawakami doesn't do anything remotely close to that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 08/23/22 8:51:09 AM #20:	Kamoshida is outright terrible I dont think Kawakami is seen as a good teacher, but she displays obvious discomfort with students learning about her second job, she doesn't want it to be happening in the first place. --- https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY <cite>Doe posted [p:967510078] in Why is Kam... [t:80139382]...</cite> <quote>Kamoshida is outright terribleI dont think Kawakami is seen as a good teacher, but she displays obvious discomfort with students learning about her second job, she doesn't want it to be happening in the first place.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CreekCo 08/23/22 8:55:23 AM #21:	Both are awful and should be in jail Hypocrisy is a major underlying theme both with this game and its fanbase --- It all returns to nothing It just keeps tumbling down, tumbling down, tumbling down. (NGE) <cite>CreekCo posted [p:967510156] in Why is Kam... [t:80139382]...</cite> <quote>Both are awful and should be in jailHypocrisy is a major underlying theme both with this game and its fanbase </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
uwnim 08/23/22 9:09:12 AM #22:	CreekCo posted... Both are awful and should be in jail Hypocrisy is a major underlying theme both with this game and its fanbase It isn't hypocritical to think Kamoshida is way, way worse. Letting a student slack off in class or getting hired by your student in your 2nd job is nowhere near comparable to physically and sexually abusing dozens of students. --- I want a pet Lavos Spawn. [Order of the Cetaceans: Phocoena dioptrica] <cite>uwnim posted [p:967510345] in Why is Kam... [t:80139382]...</cite> <quote>CreekCo posted... </cite><quote>Both are awful and should be in jailHypocrisy is a major underlying theme both with this game and its fanbase</quote>It isn't hypocritical to think Kamoshida is way, way worse. Letting a student slack off in class or getting hired by your student in your 2nd job is nowhere near comparable to physically and sexually abusing dozens of students.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MaxEffingBemis 08/23/22 9:48:47 AM #23:	Anyone here romance Kawakami in their play through? I seriously considered it in my current one but ultimately decided not to. Maybe next time. But now Im kinda stuck deciding between Hifumi and Haru in this play through --- She took pity on me, horizontally, but most likely because of my band <cite>MaxEffingBemis posted [p:967511035] in Why is Kam... [t:80139382]...</cite> <quote>Anyone here romance Kawakami in their play through? I seriously considered it in my current one but ultimately decided not to. Maybe next time. But now Im kinda stuck deciding between Hifumi and Haru in this play through </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
uwnim 08/23/22 9:55:41 AM #24:	I only did one playthrough and dated Tae Takemi only. --- I want a pet Lavos Spawn. [Order of the Cetaceans: Phocoena dioptrica] <cite>uwnim posted [p:967511150] in Why is Kam... [t:80139382]...</cite> <quote>I only did one playthrough and dated Tae Takemi only.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MedeaLysistrata 08/23/22 9:59:19 AM #25:	Kawakami makes it pretty clear she would be fired because of what she is doing and also the other teachers don't really seem to like her much anyway, maybe because she is too nice and that is considered lacking boundaries My headcannon is that Amimiya is about as smart as Akechi and was actually manipulating most of the adults he meets to his advantage hence the ~~mostdangerous prisoner~~ --- Reason is primarily used to access experience. However, imagination is necessary for reason to produce some model of what it intends to experience. <cite>MedeaLysistrata posted [p:967511205] in Why is Kam... [t:80139382]...</cite> <quote>Kawakami makes it pretty clear she would be fired because of what she is doing and also the other teachers don't really seem to like her much anyway, maybe because she is too nice and that is considered lacking boundariesMy headcannon is that Amimiya is about as smart as Akechi and was actually manipulating most of the adults he meets to his advantage hence the mostdangerous prisoner </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 08/23/22 10:06:02 AM #26:	MaxEffingBemis posted... Anyone here romance Kawakami in their play through? I seriously considered it in my current one but ultimately decided not to. Maybe next time. But now Im kinda stuck deciding between Hifumi and Haru in this play through Nope. Though I only got up to Rank 7 with her anyway. I romanced Hifumi, and had plans to do Tae in my second playthrough (and she was my original plan until I did the Hawaii vacation with Hifumi), before my PS3 drive finally stopped working. I'll probably save it for Royal. --- "To Republicans, life begins at conception and ends in elementary school." - GranolaPanic <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:967511301] in Why is Kam... [t:80139382]...</cite> <quote>MaxEffingBemis posted... </cite><quote>Anyone here romance Kawakami in their play through? I seriously considered it in my current one but ultimately decided not to. Maybe next time. But now Im kinda stuck deciding between Hifumi and Haru in this play through</quote>Nope. Though I only got up to Rank 7 with her anyway.I romanced Hifumi, and had plans to do Tae in my second playthrough (and she was my original plan until I did the Hawaii vacation with Hifumi), before my PS3 drive finally stopped working. I'll probably save it for Royal.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
itachi15243 08/23/22 10:07:51 AM #27:	One was literally a rapist and the other is a female recluse who had to be convinced and half black mailed into dating a student. However, all things equal, they should both be in jail. Even with jokers consent. --- I do drawings and stuff https://www.fiverr.com/blueblitz <cite>itachi15243 posted [p:967511331] in Why is Kam... [t:80139382]...</cite> <quote>One was literally a rapist and the other is a female recluse who had to be convinced and half black mailed into dating a student. However, all things equal, they should both be in jail. Even with jokers consent. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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