Current Events > Tesla raises price of feature it calls 'full self-driving' to $15,000

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Scorsese2002
08/22/22 11:48:17 PM
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https://twitter.com/cnn/status/1561911376356032518?s=21&t=P2gfaTqKR1SGTteGqJwHwA

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Smashingpmkns
08/22/22 11:56:13 PM
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Damn paying $15k just to have your car run over a child smh

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Alucard188
08/22/22 11:57:29 PM
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Mans really has to raise the capital to buy Manchester United.

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TetsuoS2
08/22/22 11:59:54 PM
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$15k for a feature that may or may not be implemented properly or feasibly.

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ShineboxPhil
08/23/22 12:03:30 AM
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Alucard188 posted...
Mans really has to raise the capital to buy Manchester United.

I hope he gives Harry Maguire and Phil Jones lifetime max contracts.

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sabin017
08/23/22 12:04:27 AM
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and so Uber and Lyft breathe a sigh of relief

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WilliamPorygon
08/23/22 12:06:43 AM
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Why does the government not step in and tell them to stop calling it that

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Pepys_Monster
08/23/22 12:06:59 AM
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WTF? Does he think Im going to FOMO in? The feature is tied to the specific car, and it doesnt increase resell value.

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electricbugs2
08/23/22 12:10:21 AM
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Tesla continuing to make themselves look foolish, while the actual luxury brands are releasing shit like the Taycan and i4.

I give Tesla 10 years at most if this shit keeps up.

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Mia_K97
08/23/22 12:13:25 AM
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Tesla is a trash brand it took Elon going alt right for yall to realize it lmao.
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Tropicalwood
08/23/22 12:23:39 AM
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It's called inflation, you're lucky it isn't higher.

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XxKrebsxX
08/23/22 12:47:42 AM
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In all seriousness, aren't Tesla's terribly built? I've seen so many videos of panels not installed properly and the interior falling apart.
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Zeeak4444
08/23/22 1:42:56 AM
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XxKrebsxX posted...
In all seriousness, aren't Tesla's terribly built? I've seen so many videos of panels not installed properly and the interior falling apart.

i havent looked into it enough to say myself but thats the general consensus Ive heard.

Tropicalwood posted...
It's called inflation, you're lucky it isn't higher.

meh, doubt it.

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Robot2600
08/23/22 8:05:02 AM
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inflation? already richest guy in the world. it's fucking greed.

also i could buy a car for 15,000 so it doesnt matter how good the gas mileage is.

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Pepys_Monster
08/23/22 10:31:43 AM
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XxKrebsxX posted...
In all seriousness, aren't Tesla's terribly built? I've seen so many videos of panels not installed properly and the interior falling apart.
No, they aren't terribly built. I have one. My only real gripe is the sun visors being magnetic instead of clicking in, so when I flip it down, sometimes it detaches and goes in a weird direction.

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ScazarMeltex
08/23/22 10:36:51 AM
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Tesla is just one big grift all around.

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emblem-man
08/23/22 10:38:31 AM
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Seems like they're just trying to make people settle on subscribing to the subscription service. Currently the subscription service is at $200 a month .

It's a really bad idea to buy this considering...it's just not a finished product yet. And in addition to that, full self driving is not tied to your Tesla account. It's tied to your car.

So if you buy a new Tesla, you have to pay again for FSD.


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Foppe
08/23/22 10:41:49 AM
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Robot2600 posted...
inflation? already richest guy in the world. it's fucking greed.

also i could buy a car for 15,000 so it doesnt matter how good the gas mileage is.
Wouldnt pay much more than $1,500 for a car.

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Pepys_Monster
08/23/22 10:45:35 AM
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Foppe posted...
Wouldnt pay much more than $1,500 for a car.
Yikes.

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Foppe
08/23/22 10:49:50 AM
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Pepys_Monster posted...
Yikes.
Many good cheap cars in Sweden.

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CableZL
08/23/22 10:55:00 AM
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I own a Tesla Model S and FSD is not worth anywhere near $15,000.

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Shadow_Don
08/23/22 11:11:06 AM
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If they are calling it "full self driving" then they need to be fucking sued. Thats going to kill people.

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CableZL
08/23/22 11:27:54 AM
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Shadow_Don posted...
If they are calling it "full self driving" then they need to be fucking sued. Thats going to kill people.

I don't think changing the name would help anything. Changing the name wouldn't change how people use it.

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s0nicfan
08/23/22 11:29:53 AM
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I assume this is the ensure that every Tesla that would be cheap enough to count towards that new "inflation reduction act" electric car credit won't have self-driving mode, since the subsidy caps out at a maximum vehicle price.

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CableZL
08/23/22 11:31:06 AM
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s0nicfan posted...
I assume this is the ensure that every Tesla that would be cheap enough to count towards that new "inflation reduction act" electric car credit won't have self-driving mode, since the subsidy caps out at a maximum vehicle price.

I wonder how that would work if you were to get it after the fact. Like you buy the vehicle without the feature, then you get it after you get the tax credit.

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TetsuoS2
08/23/22 11:54:14 AM
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Shadow_Don posted...
If they are calling it "full self driving" then they need to be fucking sued. Thats going to kill people.

most people can't use it, even if they paid for it.

You have to have a good driver rating for some algorithm in the car, before you can even use it.

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CableZL
08/23/22 12:01:29 PM
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TetsuoS2 posted...
most people can't use it, even if they paid for it.

You have to have a good driver rating for some algorithm in the car, before you can even use it.
Yeah, the safety score feature has pretty strict scoring.
  • Forward collision warnings (possibly per 1000 miles)
  • Hard braking
  • Tailgating
  • Hard turning


I think that's in order of most impactful to least impactful, but not sure about the order of the last two. Right now, you have to be super cautious in order to qualify even if you pay for the feature. At first they only gave it to people who got 100s. I got in once they opened it up to people with 99s. I stopped paying attention to the threshold after I got in, though, so I'm not sure what the required score is now. I remember reading that the average score is around 80.

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Pepys_Monster
08/24/22 10:17:12 AM
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CableZL posted...
Yeah, the safety score feature has pretty strict scoring.
* Forward collision warnings (possibly per 1000 miles)
* Hard braking
* Tailgating
* Hard turning

I think that's in order of most impactful to least impactful, but not sure about the order of the last two. Right now, you have to be super cautious in order to qualify even if you pay for the feature. At first they only gave it to people who got 100s. I got in once they opened it up to people with 99s. I stopped paying attention to the threshold after I got in, though, so I'm not sure what the required score is now. I remember reading that the average score is around 80.
What if I don't have their garbage "Tesla insurance"? I still can't use FSD unless my invisible safety score is high enough?

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Were_Wyrm
08/24/22 10:23:24 AM
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WilliamPorygon posted...
Why does the government not step in and tell them to stop calling it that
California is

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CableZL
08/24/22 10:37:55 AM
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Pepys_Monster posted...
What if I don't have their garbage "Tesla insurance"? I still can't use FSD unless my invisible safety score is high enough?
You don't need Tesla insurance to get FSD. The safety score feature is primarily used for Tesla insurance, but it's also used as a qualifier to get into the FSD beta. I have State Farm and I got into the FSD beta late last year.

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