Current Events > Dragon Ball Super is basically official fanfiction

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stoltenberg11 posted...

Dragonball has been on a steep decline since the Frieza saga.

Fixed that for you.

There is ZERO possibility that Dr. Gero created androids that were both stronger than Frieza AND Super Saiyans.

Also its completely fucking stupid that there are sequels to the Super Saiyan transformation.

DBZ became fan fiction diarrhea soup immediately at the beginning of the Android saga.

LMAO its always funny seeing dragon ball fans complaining as it continues. Honestly the series ranned its course after the Buu saga anyway so everything just extra imo. I didnt mind the battle of gods (which was cool to introduce other universes but didnt execute very well)

I did love hit and some of the moments in TOP.

CompatibleGreet posted...

LMAO its always funny seeing dragon ball fans complaining as it continues. Honestly the series ranned its course after the Buu saga anyway so everything just extra imo. I didnt mind the battle of gods (which was cool to introduce other universes but didnt execute very well)

I did love hit and some of the moments in TOP.

I don't mind it either. The fights and story are still fun as hell for me. Also love seeing Goku and the others get immensely powerful beyond limits they never perceived.

As a lifelong DB fan, I will never understand the weight people put on the story. The series started with dick and pussy jokes and is now about crazy action. It's not like DBZ was Citizen Kane.

SuperShake666 posted...

As a lifelong DB fan, I will never understand the weight people put on the story. The series started with dick and pussy jokes and is now about crazy action. It's not like DBZ was Citizen Kane.

B.b.but it got Bulmas boobs and Bulma in a bunny suit and... and...
...it got ruined with the birth of Trunks!

Yeah man

JahanDotson1 posted...

Fixed that for you.

There is ZERO possibility that Dr. Gero created androids that were both stronger than Frieza AND Super Saiyans.

But he did. You can still get mad about it though.

31Veteran posted...

What are the reasons gt is good?

I don't think it is, it just seemed like a lot of the criticism at the time really boiled down to "It fails to recapture the nostalgia I had for DBZ" so I was just curious why Super works instead.

Because it still does the OG cast more justice the GT ever did?

So it's Dragon Ball, but Lord of the Rings

31Veteran posted...

What are the reasons gt is good?

GT isn't good. The point is it's not worse than Super and is actually less terrible.

Dragonball has had shitty fanfiction-tier writing since DBZ's inception.

To be fair, the series has been declining since the Namek Saga. Wasn't quite so apparent in the Cell Saga, but then the Buu Saga happened.

JahanDotson1 posted...

Also its completely f***ing stupid that there are sequels to the Super Saiyan transformation.

I do kind of find the idea amusing that the saiyan race was literally at the infancy of their potential before they basically went extinct.

JahanDotson1 posted...

Also its completely fucking stupid that there are sequels to the Super Saiyan transformation.

They aren't necessarily sequels. There really is more than 3/4 stages as well with differing branches. Super Saiyan 2 is really just Super Saiyan 1, but a more complete ascended form (I think it was actually just called Ascended Saiyan, outlining the ascension to a complete stage). Super saiyan had differing forms of power, with ultra super saiyan an incomplete and broken branch of power.

Goku only started to number them in the Buu saga (Correct me if I'm wrong) with Super Saiyan 3. But even that stage is incomplete and inferior in terms of stability. It was said that what Gohan achieved in the Cell saga was the perfect and most stable stage of Super Saiyan. Super Saiyan 3 is too taxing and useless in the long run.

Goldice posted...

I do kind of find the idea amusing that the saiyan race was literally at the infancy of their potential before they basically went extinct.

It would have stayed that way until more emotional Saiyans unlocked their higher stages of power. It's the whole reason why they relied on Zenkai boosts. Most Saiyans had no emotional connection with each other, which kind of restricted their ability to unlock forms such as Super Saiyan.

Kind of explains why half-saiyans gained power at such an extreme rate. Because their human side had the potential to tap into their emotions while being Saiyans.

SpiritSephiroth posted...

They aren't necessarily sequels. There really is more than 3/4 stages as well with differing branches. Super Saiyan 2 is really just Super Saiyan 1, but a more complete ascended form (I think it was actually just called Ascended Saiyan, outlining the ascension to a complete stage). Super saiyan had differing forms of power, with ultra super saiyan an incomplete and broken branch of power.

Goku only started to number them in the Buu saga (Correct me if I'm wrong) with Super Saiyan 3. But even that stage is incomplete and inferior in terms of stability. It was said that what Gohan achieved in the Cell saga was the perfect and most stable stage of Super Saiyan. Super Saiyan 3 is too taxing and useless in the long run.

I'm pretty sure SSJ2 was called Super Saiyan Beyond Super Saiyan in the Cell saga, and it was an artifact of Gohan's rage. No one else was supposed to be able to achieve that

BlackOmnimon posted...

I'm pretty sure SSJ2 was called Super Saiyan Beyond Super Saiyan in the Cell saga, and it was an artifact of Gohan's rage. No one else was supposed to be able to achieve that

Thats a point I've not heard before. I'm thinking of reading through the whole of Dragonball soon so maybe that'll refresh my memory.

Irony posted...

GT isn't good. The point is it's not worse than Super and is actually less terrible.

Ok, what makes it less terrible?

Anteaterking posted...

As someone who last watched new Dragonball with GT, what are the reasons that Super is good and GT is bad.

Neither is particularly good. GT started out as too much of a nostalgia act but I thought after a while it found its footing and the final arc was a decent wrap-up to the series.

Super feels like content for the sake of content that jumped the shark almost immediately. The tournament of power is the only decent thing I remember from it.