Current Events > Why don't you have unwavering support for the LGBTQ+ community?

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hockeybub89
08/17/22 8:52:01 PM
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Hoodroar posted...
I don't have unwavering support for anything because the bad apples always spoil the bunch.
Yikes. We're not talking about police here. Would you say this about white people or women?

Senta posted...
I dont 100% support anything. Everything has some extreme part to it I disagree with or find to be nonsense. The LGBTQ+ community has about a 90% support rating from me, I'd say.
What is extreme LGBTQ+ and how is it manifesting in a way that brings pause?

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Hornswoggled
08/17/22 9:01:20 PM
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What's in it for me?
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FigureOfSpeech
08/17/22 9:19:15 PM
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MarcoRubio posted...
Mostly everyone here thankfully does, you're barking up the wrong tree

most do, yeah, but it begs the question that why do some not? And they should be asked why tbh

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LordMarshal
08/17/22 9:25:48 PM
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You know what buddy? This might be an unpopular opinion but i think their flags are pretty cool.

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Guide
08/17/22 9:27:33 PM
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If we're quantifying it, then I think those raunchy parades are trash, which puts me at like 99%? Still for all the pro causes though.

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IfGodCouldDie
08/17/22 9:32:42 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
I mean that nothing will shake your support for the collective and that you will not accept any law or action that impedes their ability to live completely freely and openly without fear.
If this is the case, yes.

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runewalshPSiv
08/17/22 9:39:59 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
What more do people need to do to justify their existence to you?

They dont need to do anything. They can do and be whatever they want to be just leave me out of it.


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Hoodroar
08/17/22 9:41:18 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Yikes. We're not talking about police here. Would you say this about white people or women?

Yeah. I've made no secret of my issues with portions of those groups.

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IfGodCouldDie
08/17/22 9:43:41 PM
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runewalshPSiv posted...
They dont need to do anything. They can do and be whatever they want to be just leave me out of it.
If you don't stand up to evil, you allow it to perpetuate. So just staying out of it allows bigots, racists and other pieces of shit to continue trying to harm innocent people and if thats something you're ok with than you're just as bad as they are.

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Robot2600
08/17/22 9:50:48 PM
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ty to the ppl that just said "yes"

to everyone else:

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The_Wheelman1
08/17/22 11:20:44 PM
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Just let people have sex with whoever they want. I don't care its none of my business. If they are gay or bi then good for them.

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Kloe_Rinz
08/17/22 11:26:13 PM
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What counts as support? I always vote in favour of LGBTQ+ rights but Im not outside protesting or anything
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Tenaku
08/17/22 11:41:45 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
What more do people need to do to justify their existence to you?

What does "existence" mean? I've seen that used many times before, but only about 1/8 users actually explain it. They often provide different meanings for it, and only one of them I have sympathized with. What does it mean to you, TC? Or anybody else who want to share their own answer?

(I didn't read through this whole thread. Sorry if you answered this question already)

As for me and my "unwavering support", I simply support arguments more than people. One argument at a time, and defensible ones.

And the people I do support are the ones who pass my general guideline for mutual respect for each others rights. Not entire communities.
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Joelypoely
08/17/22 11:46:38 PM
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I agree with what my friend said recently, basically being gay should be perceived as normal to where having 'unwavering support' or big movements are unnecessary. The us vs. them, for or against us mindset is so strange to me.

Pretty much this

The_Wheelman1 posted...
Just let people have sex with whoever they want. I don't care its none of my business. If they are gay or bi then good for them.

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IfGodCouldDie
08/17/22 11:50:18 PM
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Joelypoely posted...
I agree with what my friend said recently, basically being gay should be perceived as normal to where having 'unwavering support' or big movements are unnecessary. The us vs. them, for or against us mindset is so strange to me.
You're absolutely right, it should be like that, but unfortunately there are certain groups that do everything they can to make sure that is not so, which is why marginalized groups still need support from outside their groups, ya know to help get us to that point.

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hockeybub89
08/18/22 7:26:55 AM
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Joelypoely posted...
I agree with what my friend said recently, basically being gay should be perceived as normal to where having 'unwavering support' or big movements are unnecessary. The us vs. them, for or against us mindset is so strange to me.

Pretty much this
I like to say that the only way to ever achieve this will be by making the cause loud and in everyone's face until it is normalized.

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hockeybub89
08/18/22 7:29:44 AM
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There are still millions, maybe billions of people on the wrong side of the war. They need to learn the error of their ways and how worthless their feelings are.

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hockeybub89
08/18/22 7:40:32 AM
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Tenaku posted...
What does "existence" mean? I've seen that used many times before, but only about 1/8 users actually explain it. They often provide different meanings for it, and only one of them I have sympathized with. What does it mean to you, TC? Or anybody else who want to share their own answer?

(I didn't read through this whole thread. Sorry if you answered this question already)

As for me and my "unwavering support", I simply support arguments more than people. One argument at a time, and defensible ones.

And the people I do support are the ones who pass my general guideline for mutual respect for each others rights. Not entire communities.
LGBTQ+ are real, authentic people and they shouldn't have to argue for equal rights and zero restrictions any more than a woman or a black person or any other oppressed community. The entire community deserves this merely by virtue of being alive. They do not need to justify it since any opposing belief to this is not grounded in any logic or fact.

We need to stay visible, but there isn't anything we are doing or not doing that should actually hurt the "cause". Those who oppose are the ones who hold the responsibility for any backwards movement. Those supporters with power must do anything to hold off the enemy, if not completely prevent them. from causing harm.

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Robot2600
08/18/22 8:00:13 AM
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hockeybub89 posted...
I like to say that the only way to ever achieve this will be by making the cause loud and in everyone's face until it is normalized.

This.

If you're straight it's very easy to pretend like everything is fine but the reality is that queer ppl deal with bullshit almost every single day.

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Solar_Crimson
08/18/22 8:00:31 AM
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GallisOTK posted...
But I already do


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