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Rathinor
08/13/22 8:14:08 AM
#101:


Rikishi posted...
As the facts stand now, his defense would be, I declassified those documents. I am not therefore in possession of classified documents now,' said Charles Stimson, a senior fellow with the conservative Heritage Foundation and a former federal prosecutor.

Trump says he declassified all the documents that the FBI took from his house. So if he did actually declassified all of those , then they can't charge him with anything pertaining to keeping classifieds.
You are a joke. He can't just say things are declassified. There's a process. Get your head out of the sand and stop listening to Fox News' sad attempts to smooth this over. Your cult leader is a traitor.
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DarkRoast
08/13/22 8:21:33 AM
#102:


SCI documents and documents pertaining to nuclear weapons cannot be unilaterally declassified by the president. Of course that's beside the point, because none of these were actually declassified.

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Unsuprised_Pika
08/13/22 8:38:45 AM
#104:


GranolaPanic posted...
Rikishi seriously thinks Trump can just say I declassify this and then its declassified? Thats not how any of this works

https://youtu.be/OqRAt4snz_w

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AlCalavicci
08/13/22 9:25:39 AM
#105:


GranolaPanic posted...
Rikishi seriously thinks Trump can just say I declassify this and then its declassified? Thats not how any of this works

i was surprised to read that this says otherwise

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/08/trump-fbi-raid-classified-nuclear-documents/671119/

this doesnt include nuclear stuff, but was surprised to see that apparently he can just say i declassify this (when he was President). Is this article accurate?

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COVxy
08/13/22 9:29:09 AM
#106:


AlCalavicci posted...
i was surprised to read that this says otherwise

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/08/trump-fbi-raid-classified-nuclear-documents/671119/

this doesnt include nuclear stuff, but was surprised to see that apparently he can just say i declassify this (when he was President). Is this article accurate?

See, Biden predicted this, and waved his hand and said "i reclassify those documents" his first night in the white house.

Lol.

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DarkRoast
08/13/22 9:29:21 AM
#107:


The president can declassify a lot of things at will.

But

  1. None of the documents he said were declassified were actually declassified
  2. Some of the documents can't be declassified without submitting them to a council (he obviously didn't)
  3. He's not the president. He has the same powers you and I have.


This is just Trump's old standard "firehose of falsehood"

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Rikishi
08/13/22 10:28:25 AM
#109:


The president can declassified anything he wants at any time he's in office. He has absolute power of what he declassifies. Doesn't need to ask permission form councils and other people to vote or something on what he wants to declassify. Try learning a bit about this stuff before you make silly argument
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Takuya_Lee
08/13/22 10:28:53 AM
#110:


Rikishi posted...
The president can declassified anything he wants at any time he's in office. He has absolute power of what he declassifies. Doesn't need to ask permission form councils and other people to vote or something on what he wants to declassify. Try learning a bit about this stuff before you make silly argument

No he doesn't. Sit down.

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solosnake
08/13/22 10:29:33 AM
#111:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/5/9/AAREDGAADjxf.jpg

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MrAndersonWb
08/13/22 10:34:19 AM
#113:


Rikishi posted...
Trump won't be charged with having classified documents. And if he even did the jury would not convict him due to how powerful his lawyers will be about it in court. So now that the documents are not classified anymore, what is the next step for the FBI to charge him with?

you keep repeating that. Why wouldnt they be classified? You mango messiah didnt declassify them when he had the chance. There is a process, its not like throwing a fucking pokeball and saying declassification I choose you!

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DeadBankerDream
08/13/22 10:34:41 AM
#114:


Rich people who can hire really good lawyers never get convincted of anything ever in the ever.

I'm a serious human and not liquid feces poured into a human-shaped trashbag.

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Heineken14
08/13/22 10:35:22 AM
#115:


DeadBankerDream posted...
Rich people who can hire really good lawyers never get convincted of anything ever in the ever.

I'm a serious human and not liquid feces poured into a human-shaped trashbag.


What sucks is his lawyers aren't even good. He just has a naturally rolled +20 luck stat.

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solosnake
08/13/22 10:35:31 AM
#116:


Rikishi posted...
Trump won't be charged with having classified documents. And if he even did the jury would not convict him due to how powerful his lawyers will be about it in court. So now that the documents are not classified anymore, what is the next step for the FBI to charge him with?

He is accused of violating the espionage act. I dont think some hand waiving that he had already declassified the documents is gonna make this go away. Maybe for the MAGA crowd, but not the FBI

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itachi15243
08/13/22 10:42:01 AM
#118:


Rikishi posted...
Trump won't be charged with having classified documents. And if he even did the jury would not convict him due to how powerful his lawyers will be about it in court. So now that the documents are not classified anymore, what is the next step for the FBI to charge him with?

What kind of fantasy land do you live in?

1. The papers were classified
2. He's not the president anymore
3. He has committed numerous other crimes, including possibly selling our nuclear secrets to other countries, aka treason along with obstruction of justice
4. This isn't an anime, his lawyers don't have special power and anyone who thinks Trump is innocent no matter what would not be on a jury if it goes to one
5. His lawyers won't be able to do shit when he's tried by congress or the senate
6. Yes they are. Even if he could declassify them before, he's not president anymore.

7. The next step is for the FBI to continue collecting evidence until the AG has a sufficient case against him, if they don't already. Then, there's also other people like the Jan 6th committee that would probably like a word with him.

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DarkRoast
08/13/22 10:48:33 AM
#119:


Rikishi posted...
The president can declassified anything he wants at any time he's in office. He has absolute power of what he declassifies. Doesn't need to ask permission form councils and other people to vote or something on what he wants to declassify. Try learning a bit about this stuff before you make silly argument

I mean, you're objectively wrong.

But the saddest part of all is that these weren't declassified and he can't just retroactively say they are, or every former president would be an extreme national security risk.

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MrAndersonWb
08/13/22 10:55:07 AM
#122:


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nuclear secret has been declassified! Add it to your team? Here is your current team, Vlad:

> kompromat (pee pee tape)
> try to recover the money trump owes you
> tucker Carlson, tulsi gabbard and Fox News
> poisons
> Lindsay Graham, cruz, Rand Paul, josh hawley, MTG, Boebert, gosar, goemer and the other gop guys under your control
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gunplagirl
08/13/22 10:57:32 AM
#123:


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Lmfao holy shit I can't honestly say I saw this coming

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RchHomieQuanChi
08/13/22 10:59:09 AM
#124:


Rikishi posted...
Trump won't be charged with having classified documents. And if he even did the jury would not convict him due to how powerful his lawyers will be about it in court. So now that the documents are not classified anymore, what is the next step for the FBI to charge him with?

This cannot be stated enough.

Trump's charges don't require that the information be classified.

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David1988
08/13/22 11:00:37 AM
#125:


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mind=blown

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DarkRoast
08/13/22 11:18:39 AM
#126:


All I can say is, after the past 6 years I completely understand why people like Alex Jones and stuff like Crypto Ponzis make so much money off these folk.

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DarkRoast
08/13/22 1:34:23 PM
#127:


Trump hasn't posted on Truth Social in a day. The lawyers have taken over for sure.

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Takuya_Lee
08/13/22 1:53:55 PM
#130:


DarkRoast posted...
Trump hasn't posted on Truth Social in a day. The lawyers have taken over for sure.

Either that or he raged so hard he had an aneurysm.

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littlebro07
08/13/22 2:00:09 PM
#132:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/1/9/AADT1PAADjz_.jpg

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DarkRoast
08/13/22 2:27:33 PM
#133:


Donald Trump is less Ubermensch and more Uber Munch.

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Unsuprised_Pika
08/13/22 3:52:19 PM
#134:


This undercuts his "planted evidence" claim and he also misses that declassification may not matter(and for a few things he couldn't unilaterally declassify such as info on spies or nuclear weapons)

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/793

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DarkRoast
08/13/22 4:11:44 PM
#135:


The group that's having the hardest time forming a coherent narrative is actually Fox News. They actually tried to entertain the "were they planted?" narrative until Trump himself contradicted it in his tweets. They only half-heartedly tried to navigate the "did he actually declassify the documents?" thing but realistically it actually is too stupid for even them to promote.

They've literally gone from "why didn't they give Trump more time" to "if the documents are that dangerous, why didn't they raid earlier" in the same broadcast. Then Kilmeade posting that photoshopped image of the judge with Ghislaine Maxwell... that's gonna be a painful lawsuit.

They tread pretty dangerous waters because they got wrecked in that Seth Rich lawsuit and they're likely going to lose big against Dominion Voting.

Fox News is like the Ministry of Truth except at high speed.

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FigureOfSpeech
08/13/22 4:22:31 PM
#136:


the starship troopers and arrested development memes are great lol

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Strider102
08/13/22 7:11:42 PM
#138:


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And not a single cop beating/tazing them.

Meanwhile at peaceful Roe v Wade protests...

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Rathinor
08/13/22 9:29:58 PM
#141:


It never ceases to amaze me the levels of stupidity the Trump fanbase shows humanity is capable of
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Popcorn2000
08/13/22 9:50:27 PM
#142:


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littlebro07
08/13/22 10:12:14 PM
#143:


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This is perfect considering the bugs were a hive mind IIRC, much like the Trump cult of free thinkers

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Foppe
08/14/22 2:33:39 AM
#144:


The FBI is as shoe.

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Nikra
08/14/22 5:41:48 AM
#146:


Trump is a traitor against the american population. And should be handled as that!
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DarkRoast
08/14/22 12:30:32 PM
#147:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/3/8/AAeEwGAADj_O.jpg

That's... certainly a lot leaps in logic

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DarkRoast
08/14/22 1:11:38 PM
#149:


Also when was AOC 's phone top secret classified info

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Rathinor
08/14/22 1:16:12 PM
#150:


DarkRoast posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/3/8/AAeEwGAADj_O.jpg

That's... certainly a lot leaps in logic
Gotta throw AOC in there somehow
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Ruvan22
08/16/22 12:36:46 PM
#151:


DarkRoast posted...
The group that's having the hardest time forming a coherent narrative is actually Fox News. They actually tried to entertain the "were they planted?" narrative until Trump himself contradicted it in his tweets. They only half-heartedly tried to navigate the "did he actually declassify the documents?" thing but realistically it actually is too stupid for even them to promote.

They've literally gone from "why didn't they give Trump more time" to "if the documents are that dangerous, why didn't they raid earlier" in the same broadcast. Then Kilmeade posting that photoshopped image of the judge with Ghislaine Maxwell... that's gonna be a painful lawsuit.

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It really is the Schrodinger's box of excuses...
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