Board 8 > Xenoblade Chronicles 3 Discussion Topic 1: Something a Bit Meatier

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HanOfTheNekos
08/11/22 7:31:47 PM
#51:


I hit the midpoint of chapter 4

Mio finally earning more points with me. She really came into her own there. Now we just need Noah and Taion to stop being boring. And for Sena to get some focus.

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GuessMyUserName
08/11/22 7:36:41 PM
#52:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
I hit the midpoint of chapter 4

Mio finally earning more points with me. She really came into her own there. Now we just need Noah and Taion to stop being boring. And for Sena to get some focus.

Mio's speech is where I first went to "alright you're good", til then it kinda just felt like she's been riding Noah's coattails

I like Noah tho he might have an easier time having his role compared against Rex. Nothin' touching Shulk yet tho.

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UshiromiyaEva
08/11/22 7:36:45 PM
#53:


Gotcha. I'm finally reaching a ppont in the game that, even 6 or 7 levels above them, bosses are starting to give me a challenge with all my abilities and equipment auto assigned.

I do wish that you equipped classes and not characters. It feels like a fool's errand to pay attention to any of your gear when your swapping to level up classes constantly.

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GuessMyUserName
08/11/22 7:38:05 PM
#54:


also just beated first ascension, for Gray

I was really hoping they wouldn't be doing the spy fake-out with Rozana, boooo

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UshiromiyaEva
08/11/22 7:38:22 PM
#55:


GuessMyUserName posted...
Nothin' touching Shulk yet tho.

Shulk is just as boring as the rest of the XB1 cast not named Riki, never got why people cared about the guy. Better than Rex, though, for sure.

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GuessMyUserName
08/11/22 7:41:23 PM
#56:


lies and slander don't make me get Adam Howden to yell at you

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Xiahou_Shake
08/11/22 7:44:46 PM
#57:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
I do wish that you equipped classes and not characters. It feels like a fool's errand to pay attention to any of your gear when your swapping to level up classes constantly.
This is kinda-sorta how it works? Gems and accessories seem to be set by class but if those items are already taken then it seems to try to auto-grab stuff that generally matches to the best of its ability that makes sense. Even then though I sometimes end up with empty accessory slots but at the very least the gems seem 100% consistent.

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UshiromiyaEva
08/11/22 7:55:46 PM
#58:


I did notice the gems were set but yeah the accessory situation is a shit show. Artes also reset to default for me.

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GuessMyUserName
08/11/22 7:59:01 PM
#59:


it took me forever to realize there was a sort by type in the accessory equip menu

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MacArrowny
08/11/22 9:04:27 PM
#61:


GuessMyUserName posted...
I like Noah tho he might have an easier time having his role compared against Rex. Nothin' touching Shulk yet tho.
Yeah Noah's just okay. The game would definitely have benefited from making Mio the main character instead of him, since she's way more compelling.

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UshiromiyaEva
08/11/22 9:16:21 PM
#62:


GuessMyUserName posted...
lies and slander don't make me get Adam Howden to yell at you

Bruh did you hear how much this dude didn't give a shit in that Smash Bros trailer he couldn't care less.

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_stingers_
08/11/22 10:12:50 PM
#63:


MacArrowny posted...
Yeah Noah's just okay. The game would definitely have benefited from making Mio the main character instead of him, since she's way more compelling.
I feel like Noah is a lot like Shulk. I also never got the Shulk love much. I think people were just endeared to him because he was British and it was unique at the time to be honest

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_stingers_
08/11/22 10:15:49 PM
#64:


But agreed Mio is definitely the best. I just beat what im assuming is the big midway chapter 4 fight everyone has been talking about, my current rankings are...

Mio > Taion > Sena > Eunie > Noah > Lanz

I was prepared to be a Eunie fan coming in since she's got the Melia wings and she's the hot one, but the other 3 have impressed me too much. Also her personality is just OK. She is probably the funniest one though because queens paninis had me dying

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LordoftheMorons
08/11/22 10:18:37 PM
#65:


Yeah Noah and Shulk seem pretty similar to me. Theyre both fine, and way better than Rex who is basically Shirou from F/SN

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SHINE_GET_64
08/11/22 10:44:46 PM
#66:


If Noah gets some screaming sequences he can begin to knock at Shulk's doorstep

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_stingers_
08/11/22 10:55:59 PM
#67:


What in the queen's snow white wings

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GuessMyUserName
08/11/22 11:31:29 PM
#68:


Noah doesn't have an ounce of Shulk's tortured anger

actually Noah's like the reverse-Shulk, literally introduced as an off-seer filled with respect for the enemies he's duty-bound to send off (much to the eyerolling of his partners), then as the story goes okay yeah nah these folks don't deserve it (with a pre-emptive scolding my Lanz)

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SHINE_GET_64
08/11/22 11:34:04 PM
#69:


To me it's an unfair comparison to begin with because Shulk might be my favorite JRPG protagonist ever

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LordoftheMorons
08/11/22 11:36:29 PM
#70:


Ch 5 Eunie sidequest:

The battle ended as soon as I killed L (without killing X) but looking online it seems like if I had beat X first I still would have had to kill L afterward. Is the cutscene still the same afterward either way (with X teleporting away)?

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TheRock1525
08/11/22 11:36:54 PM
#71:


Shulk is a million times better than Noah.

Noah is barely above Rex.

Hell Noah is significantly below Elma.

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GuessMyUserName
08/11/22 11:40:48 PM
#72:


Valdi underrated good egg

LordoftheMorons posted...
Ch 5 Eunie sidequest:

The battle ended as soon as I killed L (without killing X) but looking online it seems like if I had beat X first I still would have had to kill L afterward. Is the cutscene still the same afterward either way (with X teleporting away)?
dunno the answer because I literally just did the same 5 minutes ago lol, huh though I just went for L first because he seemed like the minion-type.

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LordoftheMorons
08/11/22 11:42:33 PM
#73:


Yeah same here, I was really surprised when the battle ended.

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Xiahou_Shake
08/11/22 11:48:40 PM
#74:


I used to have a giant essay on why Shulk is a top tier JRPG protagonist but I don't know where it is!

Noah's pretty cool but I'm only in chapter 4 so I'm sure I've got a ton more to see of him. So far so good, though! Certainly a billion times better than Rex.

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TheRock1525
08/11/22 11:52:19 PM
#75:


let's show em a thing or three!

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UshiromiyaEva
08/11/22 11:57:49 PM
#76:


There's an air of dullness and bored sounding voice acting in XB1 that makes me unable to fathom these takes. I don't even remember the name of the best friend character and sniper lady. Shulk is like a piece of white bread.

He's the Xenoblade equivilant to DR1 Makoto Naegi.

Theres a reason Riki is the absolute king of that game and nobody else comes even within throwing distance. Melia is good but the game shits all over her at every opportunity it gets. Melia deserves better than a nobody like Shulk though so that's her win, really.

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SHINE_GET_64
08/12/22 12:00:07 AM
#77:


What a hater

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UshiromiyaEva
08/12/22 12:12:03 AM
#78:


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One more week to go!

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Xiahou_Shake
08/12/22 12:12:54 AM
#79:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
I don't even remember the name of the best friend character and sniper lady.
Legit how do you forget NOW IT'S REYN TIME and CAN'T HAVE A RAINBOW WITHOUT REYN! XC1 has amazingly memorable voice work, and not just because it's Bri'ish

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MacArrowny
08/12/22 12:16:08 AM
#80:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
There's an air of dullness and bored sounding voice acting in XB1 that makes me unable to fathom these takes. I don't even remember the name of the best friend character and sniper lady. Shulk is like a piece of white bread.
I hope your recognize that this is 100% a you thing. Now it's Reyn time is hugely memorable for 99% of people who play the game.

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TheRock1525
08/12/22 12:16:32 AM
#81:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
There's an air of dullness and bored sounding voice acting in XB1 that makes me unable to fathom these takes. I don't even remember the name of the best friend character and sniper lady. Shulk is like a piece of white bread.

He's the Xenoblade equivilant to DR1 Makoto Naegi.

Theres a reason Riki is the absolute king of that game and nobody else comes even within throwing distance. Melia is good but the game shits all over her at every opportunity it gets. Melia deserves better than a nobody like Shulk though so that's her win, really.

This is certainly a take since Xenoblade 1 has some of the best voice acting in video gaming and none of the other games in the series come anywhere close. The VAs for people like Dunban and Sharla act circles around characters like Taion and Sena.

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MacArrowny
08/12/22 12:17:55 AM
#82:


It's a shame how universally weaker the American voice actors in XB2 and XB3 are than the UK ones. Like, Sena's better than Pyra/Mythra, sure, but she's still the weakest in the party.

(though I use Japanese voices most of the time and their quality is pretty consistent throughout the trilogy... Valdi rules)

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GuessMyUserName
08/12/22 12:25:51 AM
#83:


I love Sena's voice, she was so familiar to me right away I actually immediately looked her up before finding out how little she's done

I hate Isurd's voice more than anything though

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UshiromiyaEva
08/12/22 12:26:10 AM
#84:


Just not takes I can agree with! I forgot Dunban existed and that's on me, I just posted a meme with him like 4 days ago. And I liked Dunban!

My opinion of the XB1 voice acting was HEAVILY dulled by having just come off of so much FFXIV which has *astonishingly* better UK voice acting than any of these games after the recasts.

The UK voice work in XB2 is about on lar with XB1, but the US voice acting frags it down.

The UK voice acting in XB3 is a LOT better than 1, hell Eunie alone runs circles around every XB1 character, but still not great for the US stuff. I like Sena but she has some pretty bad reads here and there. Then there's Isurd which....

Dear God Isurd....

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GuessMyUserName
08/12/22 12:27:41 AM
#85:


GuessMyUserName posted...
I hate Isurd's voice more than anything though
UshiromiyaEva posted...
Then there's Isurd which....

Dear God Isurd....

ouyaaa

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UshiromiyaEva
08/12/22 12:27:55 AM
#86:


One to clarify that I did not see GMUN's post before commenting on Sena and Isurd!

Isurd is straight up Chaos Wars.

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SHINE_GET_64
08/12/22 12:32:02 AM
#87:


I forgot if I linked it in the previous topic but DYKG did a pretty good deep dive on the first games development a week or two ago

https://youtu.be/r2531OsTFII

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UshiromiyaEva
08/12/22 1:18:48 AM
#88:


The black fog must have been an actual game mechanic that got removed at some point in development, right?

The characters always comment on being careful in it but there's no actual difference or effect.

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SHINE_GET_64
08/12/22 1:22:01 AM
#89:


I guess if I try to match up each character to their equivalent in xenoblade their classes don't match up perfectly but this is the best I can do

Shulk > Noah
Reyn > Lanz (pretty close though)
Mio > Fiora
Eunie > Sharla
Melia > Taion
Dunban > Sena
Riki > Riku and Manana (love Riku's voice though)

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SHINE_GET_64
08/12/22 1:25:17 AM
#90:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
The black fog must have been an actual game mechanic that got removed at some point in development, right?

The characters always comment on being careful in it but there's no actual difference or effect.
I wouldn't be surprised if they originally planned for it to block you off from going to to areas too early with enemies that are higher level than you but maybe they've found that to be too restrictive

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UshiromiyaEva
08/12/22 1:27:43 AM
#91:


My guess given the lore was that there was actually a risk of explosion in the area that damaged the environment, but...Switch hardware and all that.

This game does look pretty spectacular all things considered, though. It's hard to beat how much XB1 popped as a result of even tighter limitations forcing some aesthetics. When the games just look better in general it's harder to make some stuff stand out. Nothing beats the area in XB1 where the trees glow at night.

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LordoftheMorons
08/12/22 1:29:01 AM
#92:


Is anybody far enough to know if ultra pure gemstones are farmable (e.g. from named monsters)? From what I understand nopon coins aren't, and I don't want to screw myself by using them on rank VII-IX gems if they actually are limited (since each level X takes 5).

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TheRock1525
08/12/22 1:29:17 AM
#93:


I finally dug out my one of four Shulk Amiibos I own that's still in it's box and unboxed it.

Time for some good ol' monado fun

Edit: Holy Shit these are $125 on Amazon what the fuck?

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SHINE_GET_64
08/12/22 1:30:43 AM
#94:


Now if only Ethel was part of the main cast and not just a Hero <3

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SHINE_GET_64
08/12/22 1:31:56 AM
#95:


LordoftheMorons posted...
Is anybody far enough to know if ultra pure gemstones are farmable (e.g. from named monsters)? From what I understand nopon coins aren't, and I don't want to screw myself by using them on rank VII-IX gems if they actually are limited (since each level X takes 5).
Unique monsters can drop them and you can just refight them over and over again to get more

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SHINE_GET_64
08/12/22 1:32:36 AM
#96:


And remember to do the Burst combo as much as you can to speed up that process

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LordoftheMorons
08/12/22 1:33:35 AM
#97:


SHINE_GET_64 posted...
Unique monsters can drop them and you can just refight them over and over again to get more
They drop from rematches, then? I know that the coins specifically are first time-only drops, so that's what I was worried about.

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SHINE_GET_64
08/12/22 1:36:10 AM
#98:


Yeah nopon coins are just one time but gems are forever

Actually I'm surprised there hasn't been like a nopon coin DLC pack. You get 30 of each if you buy the expansion pass but that's been it so far

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LordoftheMorons
08/12/22 1:39:00 AM
#99:


Cool, good to know

The nopon coins annoy me because they're very plentiful and not all that useful, but since they're technically limited and cap so easily I feel compelled not to "waste" them.

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GuessMyUserName
08/12/22 1:47:17 AM
#100:


TheRock1525 posted...
Edit: Holy Shit these are $125 on Amazon what the fuck?
aww yeah hopefully Shaduln doesn't regret sending me one

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UshiromiyaEva
08/12/22 2:06:56 AM
#101:


Pretty dumb that you get locked at 4 stars for Affinities with colonies until completing certain quests, even if you max out the bars. Why even have the gradual system if there's a required final quest anyways?

I have Nopon caravan at full bar but until I fill all their collectooedia cards it can't turn over. Was the same with a couple other colonies with specific quests, too.

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