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saspa
08/09/22 11:54:35 AM
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They always make me laugh, I'm never not grinning when they go into a pro vegan/anti meat tirade.

Have a friend that hates that and I don't know why he doesn't see the humor in it. He similarly hates overly philosophical people that are like first year freshmans in college taking their first philosophy course, but I also like these people they're always good for laugh

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DipDipDiver
08/09/22 11:55:09 AM
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Because they're annoying
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pauIie
08/09/22 11:55:57 AM
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i have nothing against vegans and have considered it myself but are we really finna act like there aren't self righteous annoying vegans?

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A_Good_Boy
08/09/22 11:57:33 AM
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pauIie posted...
i have nothing against vegans and have considered it myself but are we really finna act like there aren't self righteous annoying vegans?
Doesn't that go for everyone? Have you ever been in a discussion about steak before?

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PiOverlord
08/09/22 11:59:56 AM
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Tbh, when you stand back and think about what it truly means to eat meat, it makes it easier to understand why a vegan might be a little uppity about it.

The idea of an animal literally being born just for the purpose of being food for us is a little sad. I hope lab meat takes off.

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CyricZ
08/09/22 12:02:24 PM
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Probably because of the alliteration.

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Ratchetrockon
08/09/22 12:04:27 PM
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They make me feel bad about myself

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DipDipDiver
08/09/22 12:07:00 PM
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PiOverlord posted...
The idea of an animal literally being born just for the purpose of being food for us is a little sad. I hope lab meat takes off.
Honestly I don't have much of an issue with eating animals but I am fully on board with lab grown meat and I think it could potentially be better than natural meat
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MedeaLysistrata
08/09/22 12:07:30 PM
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DipDipDiver posted...
Because they're annoying


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pauIie
08/09/22 12:08:10 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
Doesn't that go for everyone? Have you ever been in a discussion about steak before?
sure. but to me that would mean you understand the annoyance, which is what i'm talking about. understanding it. people can be and are frequently annoying when they talk about stuff.

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Strider102
08/09/22 12:08:43 PM
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Something about trying to pass themselves off as morally superior while wearing clothing, driving vehicles, and living in houses that came at the expense of animals and/or their habitats.

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DipDipDiver
08/09/22 12:09:52 PM
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pauIie posted...
i have nothing against vegans and have considered it myself but are we really finna act like there aren't self righteous annoying vegans?
I got the impression that these are the specific vegans TC is talking about
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pauIie
08/09/22 12:10:30 PM
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DipDipDiver posted...
I got the impression that these are the specific vegans TC is talking about
true. i would just go to this - people are annoying. being annoying and being vocal very often go together.

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MedeaLysistrata
08/09/22 12:11:44 PM
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DipDipDiver posted...
I got the impression that these are the specific vegans TC is talking about
Oh? I mean shouldn't the right moral choice solicit superiority?

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AsucaHayashi
08/09/22 12:12:44 PM
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how can you tell somebody is vegan?

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Damn_Underscore
08/09/22 12:13:16 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
Oh? I mean shouldn't the right moral choice solicit superiority?

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A_Good_Boy
08/09/22 12:14:17 PM
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pauIie posted...
sure. but to me that would mean you understand the annoyance, which is what i'm talking about. understanding it. people can be and are frequently annoying when they talk about stuff.
I guess I just don't get the point of singling out vegans for being obnoxious about their diet choice when almost everyone acts the same exact way, but about different things. Sure vegans are annoying when they talk about vegan stuff, but enter a discussion about steak, pizza, fast food, mashed potatoes, chicken, etc etc and those kinds of people having those discussions are just as uppity and annoying.

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MedeaLysistrata
08/09/22 12:14:48 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
Im happy to see youve found a home on CE
I get so sad when people die lol

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Compsognathus
08/09/22 12:16:24 PM
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I've always found the "vocal vegan" to be far less common than the "obnoxious omnivore". That person that finds out someone is a vegan/vegetarian, and then comes the barrage of questions and bad jokes that have never been original, alongside encouraging the vegan to "just try [whatever meat they are eating]".

But lord help you if the vegan actually responds to questions like "why are you a vegan". Because the very person who asked will then be accuse the vegan of being self-righteous or preachy.

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-Ando-
08/09/22 12:17:38 PM
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Strider102 posted...
Something about trying to pass themselves off as morally superior while wearing clothing, driving vehicles, and living in houses that came at the expense of animals and/or their habitats.
I do it primarily for health reasons but secondly for compassionate reasons. I don't ever try to press it on anyone, but I will admit to moments of internal judginess when I walk by someone sitting there eating a plate of bacon.
Like, why you'd want to fill your belly with cancer causing processed flesh of a disease-bearing animal is beyond me.

But you should really try educating yourself before you call self righteous vegans hypocritical. Animal consumption industry is one of the biggest drivers of climate change. More arable land is used to feed animals to feed humans than to directly feed humans plants. If everyone on Earth only consumed plants, the planet could support 10 billion people without starvation. As of now, there are 8 billion people, many living in extreme hunger.
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MedeaLysistrata
08/09/22 12:18:53 PM
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-Ando- posted...
plants. If everyone on Earth only consumed plants, the planet could support 10 billion people without starvation. As of now, there are 8 billion people, many living in extreme hunger.
Uhh you might want to revise this argument or proposition

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Strider102
08/09/22 12:19:26 PM
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And there it is.

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MedeaLysistrata
08/09/22 12:20:29 PM
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Strider102 posted...
And there it is.
TC knows what they want

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-Ando-
08/09/22 12:20:38 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
Uhh you might want to revise this argument or proposition
Why do you say that?
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pauIie
08/09/22 12:22:45 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
I guess I just don't get the point of singling out vegans for being obnoxious about their diet choice when almost everyone acts the same exact way, but about different things. Sure vegans are annoying when they talk about vegan stuff, but enter a discussion about steak, pizza, fast food, mashed potatoes, chicken, etc etc and those kinds of people having those discussions are just as uppity and annoying.
my guess is that animal products vs vegan is a bigger threat to a way of life compared to medium rare steak vs well done for example. bigger implications go into the meat eating debate, and that is harder for people to talk through. i could see someone feeling more insulted or called out in a vegan/meat debate compared to a steak one.

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NoxObscuras
08/09/22 12:24:13 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
Doesn't that go for everyone? Have you ever been in a discussion about steak before?
I have. People are always respectful of my choice to eat well done steaks.

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MedeaLysistrata
08/09/22 12:26:18 PM
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-Ando- posted...
Why do you say that?
Food insecurity has nothing to do with dietary choice and there is enough food to feed everyone. Even if everyone was vegan there would still be logistical and financial barriers to feeding everyone even though it is quite doable. Someone could easily counter that there is more than enough food to feed everyone and it's just not distributed properly, and a change in diet wouldn't fix such an issue.

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Nu_Jersey_Devil
08/09/22 12:29:32 PM
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NoxObscuras posted...
I have. People are always respectful of my choice to eat well done steaks.

By well done I'm hoping you are saying properly prepared and not well done like temp wise. Because a well done steak is blasphemy..lol. The medium rare is the most I'll ever have on a steak.
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-Ando-
08/09/22 12:30:52 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
Food insecurity has nothing to do with dietary choice and there is enough food to feed everyone. Even if everyone was vegan there would still be logistical and financial barriers to feeding everyone even though it is quite doable. Someone could easily counter that there is more than enough food to feed everyone and it's just not distributed properly, and a change in diet wouldn't fix such an issue.
Yes, the Earth could sustain the current population with current dietary patterns if not for socio-economic factors. Sorry, I didn't word the point correctly.
The question is, in 75 years, when the population is 10B, then what?

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Robot2600
08/09/22 12:31:17 PM
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So much cope in this topic.

You wouldn't eat a dog or a horse, why are cows and pigs okay?

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Nu_Jersey_Devil
08/09/22 12:38:23 PM
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Robot2600 posted...
So much cope in this topic.

You wouldn't eat a dog or a horse, why are cows and pigs okay?

I wouldn't? Who's to say a properly prepared dog or horse isn't yummy? Rather a quick death by the end of my arrow than a slow painful death by nature.
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MedeaLysistrata
08/09/22 12:38:33 PM
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It honestly bothers me that an eco terrorist eats fish, but that is probably because someone said it was fine. That is neither here nor there.

Pastoral land is also different from farm land which needs to be rotated and maintained. So the difference in investment is probably not just land proportions...

Ultimately I agree though. I think meat dependence should be done away with, and fossil fuels as well. I think it takes a collapse for that to actually happen though...

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Irony
08/09/22 12:47:13 PM
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Because they're assholes

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NoxObscuras
08/09/22 12:52:40 PM
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Nu_Jersey_Devil posted...
By well done I'm hoping you are saying properly prepared and not well done like temp wise. Because a well done steak is blasphemy..lol. The medium rare is the most I'll ever have on a steak.
I was just being funny. Because he's right, things like well done steaks definitely trigger people as much as vegans do. Like this one

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Crimsoness
08/09/22 12:53:01 PM
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Because sanctimonious people are always annoying

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-Ando-
08/09/22 1:10:44 PM
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Crimsoness posted...
Because sanctimonious people are always annoying
It really has nothing to do with that. Society as a whole tends to resist and ostracize when someone goes against the grain
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dioxxys
08/09/22 6:25:07 PM
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people dont like being preached to
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-Ando-
08/09/22 6:31:10 PM
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2000 years of history suggest otherwise
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mustachedmystic
08/09/22 6:32:52 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
Doesn't that go for everyone? Have you ever been in a discussion about steak before?
If you like your steak well done, then youd be better off going vegan.

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ChocoboMog123
08/09/22 6:34:56 PM
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dioxxys posted...
people dont like being preached to
So stop preaching about them?

Did you know POC are more than twice as likely to be vegan or strictly vegetarian? You don't hear about it because you don't make little memes ostracizing a group that makes a different choice than you.

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The_Creep_2020
08/09/22 6:35:39 PM
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Vocal vegans vex the voracious!

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emblem-man
08/09/22 6:39:36 PM
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I wonder if people get annoyed at vocal non vegans. There's something.... weird/funny about those who make meat eating and preparation a large part of their identity

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dioxxys
08/09/22 6:45:58 PM
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ChocoboMog123 posted...
So stop preaching about them?

Did you know POC are more than twice as likely to be vegan or strictly vegetarian? You don't hear about it because you don't make little memes ostracizing a group that makes a different choice than you.
Ive never made memes or a topic about vegans?
Literally just gave my reasoning in reply to a topic question
How did you arrive at this destination?

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VeggetaX
08/09/22 6:48:00 PM
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I have never had a vegetarian or vegan both online and IRL ever oppress me with their life style.

Now food elitists and health freaks are the ones you gotta watch out. Drink a pop in front of them and watch them flip out about corn syrup and some other dumb shit.

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ChocoboMog123
08/09/22 6:51:09 PM
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dioxxys posted...
Ive never made memes or a topic about vegans?
Literally just gave my reasoning in reply to a topic question
How did you arrive at this destination?
Just look at the thread. Who's doing the preaching?

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Mibahlzitch
08/09/22 6:54:39 PM
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PiOverlord posted...
Tbh, when you stand back and think about what it truly means to eat meat, it makes it easier to understand why a vegan might be a little uppity about it.

The idea of an animal literally being born just for the purpose of being food for us is a little sad. I hope lab meat takes off.
Hot take; If we get to the point animals aren't grown and raised to be exploited until they die they're going to end up treated better than the average American, who is born to be exploited by the 1%

That said let's go lab meat

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TheLiarParadox
08/09/22 7:10:38 PM
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emblem-man posted...
I wonder if people get annoyed at vocal non vegans. There's something.... weird/funny about those who make meat eating and preparation a large part of their identity
I grew up in a very stereotypically meat-oriented Texas family and at least in my experience, nope. I was almost 30 before going vegan and in all my life, I don't remember one time anyone was critical about someone's enthusiasm for meat.

It's really weird looking at things from the outside now. I genuinely don't understand how I went along with it for so long.

Mibahlzitch posted...
Hot take; If we get to the point animals aren't grown and raised to be exploited until they die they're going to end up treated better than the average American, who is born to be exploited by the 1%
They won't be treated better because they won't exist.

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-Ando-
08/09/22 10:44:14 PM
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TheLiarParadox posted...
It's really weird looking at things from the outside now. I genuinely don't understand how I went along with it for so long.
Yeah, same. It just seemed so logical. It's not something I generally think too much about either
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