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The_Popo
07/29/22 11:29:40 AM
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Ill be shocked if it gains any significant traction, but at the very least, Ill listen to their sales pitch. The two party system if asinine.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/07/28/politics/andrew-yang-forward-party-whitman-jolly/index.html

Group of Republicans and Democrats form new political party to appeal to moderates

A group of former Republican and Democratic officials are forming a new political party called Forward, in an attempt to appeal to what they call the "moderate, common-sense majority."

"Political extremism is ripping our nation apart, and the two major parties have failed to remedy the crisis," David Jolly, Christine Todd Whitman and Andrew Yangwrote in a Washington Post op-ed published Wednesday. "Today's outdated parties have failed by catering to the fringes. As a result, most Americans feel they aren't represented."

Jolly is a former Republican congressman from Florida, Whitman a former Republican governor of New Jersey and Yang is a former Democratic presidential and New York mayoral candidate. The three will merge their political organizations into the new party, whose launch was first reported by Reuters.

The group cites issues including guns, climate change and abortion as those that could benefit from a moderate approach. The new party will also advocate ranked-choice voting and open primaries, the end of gerrymandering, and nationwide protection for voting rights.

"Sixty-two percent of Americans now want a third party, a record high, because they can see that our leaders aren't getting it done," Yang told CNN's Brianna Keilar on "New Day" on Thursday in a joint appearance with Whitman. "And when you ask about the policy goals, the fact is the majority of Americans actually agree on really even divisive issues. The most divisive issues of the day like abortion or firearms -- there's actually a commonsense coalition position on these issues and just about every other issue under the sun."

Forward is planning a national convention next summer and will soon seek ballot access to run candidates in 2024, according to the Post op-ed.

The party said in a news release that it would launch "a national building tour this fall to hear from voters and begin laying the groundwork for expanded state-by-state party registration and ballot access, relying on the combined nationwide network of the three organizations." It plans to gain legal recognition "in 15 states by the end of 2022, twice that number in 2023, and in almost all U.S. states by the end of 2024."

While Forward won't be running its own candidates in this year's midterm elections, it will "support select candidates in November who stand up for our democracy, even if they come from outside the new party," according to the news release.

Jolly, Whitman and Yang acknowledged the clear lack of success third parties have had in the United States previously, writing in their op-ed, "Most third parties in U.S. history failed to take off, either because they were ideologically too narrow or the population was uninterested." But they said that "voters are calling for a new party now more than ever," citing a Gallup pollfrom last year.

"Americans of all stripes -- Democrats, Republicans and independents -- are invited to be a part of the process, without abandoning their existing political affiliations, by joining us to discuss building an optimistic and inclusive home for the politically homeless majority," Jolly, Whitman and Yang wrote.

Asked by Keilar on Thursday why they believe their effort to create a third party would work, Whitman said, "We're in a different time."

"When you have 50% of the American people saying that they are registered independent ... people are sick and tired of what they're seeing in Washington and the fact that nothing major is getting done is frustrating them. We have big problems and we want to see them resolved," she said.

A few independent candidates have earned national attention in their races this cycle. In Utah, Evan McMullin, who ran for president in 2016 as an anti-Trump conservative, is challenging GOP Sen. Mike Lee and has the backing of the state Democratic Party. In Missouri, John Wood, a former senior investigator for the House select committee investigating the January 6, 2021, attack on the US Capitol, is running as a "commonsense alternative" to the field of Republican and Democratic candidates for the state's open US Senate seat. And in Oregon, former state Sen. Betsy Johnson, who left the Democratic Party last year, is a top contender in the open governor's race.

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ZMythos
07/29/22 11:31:31 AM
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When one party is far-right and the other party is moderate right, the "middle ground" is going to be pretty far to the right.

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K181
07/29/22 11:31:47 AM
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They have literally dozens of supporters.

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NinjaWarrior455
07/29/22 11:33:31 AM
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I'm curious what fringe these people think Democrats are catering to

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TheGoldenEel
07/29/22 11:34:42 AM
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Hope these dumbasses siphon votes from republicans

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crazygamer21
07/29/22 11:37:21 AM
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Andrew Yang.

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bigblu89
07/29/22 11:42:00 AM
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Good Luck.

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Questionmarktarius
07/29/22 11:42:04 AM
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What's the fiscal policy part of the platform?
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SgtBash
07/29/22 11:44:40 AM
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AEW wrestling fans thought Yang was going to smack down WWE over their contracts for talent

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bigblu89
07/29/22 11:51:08 AM
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SgtBash posted...
AEW wrestling fans thought Yang was going to smack down WWE over their contracts for talent
Haha. I remember that. He was gonna unionize pro-wrestling.

Dude is a really good on ideas, really bad on execution.

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theAteam
07/29/22 11:56:09 AM
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Would like to see what the moderate approach is to abortion.

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Solar_Crimson
07/29/22 12:09:33 PM
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Just what America needs: another right-wing party.

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Jagr_68
07/29/22 12:10:48 PM
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>andrew yang

Annnnnd it's over.

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The_Popo
07/29/22 12:13:05 PM
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theAteam posted...
Would like to see what the moderate approach is to abortion.

This would honestly please a shitload of people

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Foppe
07/29/22 12:14:35 PM
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Voting on a third party?
Sure, throw your vote away!

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UnholyMudcrab
07/29/22 12:18:42 PM
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The "both sides" party is not a party worth listening to.

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wanderingshade
07/29/22 12:19:54 PM
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I'd rather vote Green Party than this imo

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masterpug53
07/29/22 12:20:10 PM
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My gut tells me this will split the Democrat's vote more than the Republican's vote, should it actually gain traction.

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NeonOctopus
07/29/22 12:22:01 PM
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lol do they expect people to throw their vote away on a 3rd party?

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FortuneCookie
07/29/22 12:29:29 PM
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Election 2024

Democrat: Biden 40%
Republican: DeSantis 36%
Forward: Trump 24%

Biden wins. I'm fine with this.
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PerseusRad
07/29/22 12:41:29 PM
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masterpug53 posted...
My gut tells me this will split the Democrat's vote more than the Republican's vote, should it actually gain traction.
I would imagine so.

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Questionmarktarius
07/29/22 12:47:21 PM
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MaxEffingBemis
07/29/22 12:48:22 PM
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These people are fucking grifters lmao Yang seriously?

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Solar_Crimson
07/29/22 12:48:30 PM
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masterpug53 posted...
My gut tells me this will split the Democrat's vote more than the Republican's vote, should it actually gain traction.
Yeah, that's the problem. GOP voters are essentially a cult now, so they won't be enticed by this new party to break ranks.

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Proto_Spark
07/29/22 12:55:58 PM
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Its worth noting that the vast majority of people forming this party are people from the Trump administration, the Bush administration, etc... its mostly just republicans trying to pretend conservative policies are perfectly fine as long as its more polite.

Andrew Yang is carrying most of the "Democrat" side of "democrats and republicans"

This has to be an attempt to try and undermine anything close to a left-wing vote.
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A_Good_Boy
07/29/22 12:56:36 PM
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masterpug53 posted...
My gut tells me this will split the Democrat's vote more than the Republican's vote, should it actually gain traction.
I read an article about this earlier that I'll try to find. It says that this new party is primarily comprised of former staffers from several different past Republican Administrations and Andrew Yang.

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Cheater87
07/29/22 1:08:05 PM
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Heard about this on the wireless after work yesterday.

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Dan_Haren-
07/29/22 1:12:17 PM
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Fuck Andrew yang
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ThePrinceFish
07/29/22 1:40:11 PM
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The loser party, headed by perennial political loser Andrew Yang.

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Lost_All_Senses
07/29/22 1:47:17 PM
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I don't follow Yang. Can someone give me a few quick examples of him "being a joke". Cause I i been waiting for a new party but am also extremely skeptical about being used.

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CARRRNE_ASADA
07/29/22 1:49:01 PM
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How are the current democrats extreme left in any way?

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07/29/22 1:49:28 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/9/8/AAAWDOAADgXW.jpg

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Lost_All_Senses
07/29/22 1:50:16 PM
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CARRRNE_ASADA posted...
How are the current democrats extreme left in any way?

They're not. But the extreme leftist are too dumb to realize they're selling out their own people by voting in who they vote in.

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BignutzisBack
07/29/22 1:55:57 PM
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This is good news, I don't care if I disagree with every single portion of their platform, a third party would be fantastic

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07/29/22 1:55:58 PM
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Whats wrong with Yang or a new party? There was a push for Yang at one point and I dont remember in the past there being anything wrong with him.

Is the new parties policys really bad? Were all pretty sick of the two party system arent we?

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GallisOTK
07/29/22 1:58:18 PM
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masterpug53 posted...
My gut tells me this will split the Democrat's vote more than the Republican's vote, should it actually gain traction.

This is what I'm afraid of

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Lost_All_Senses
07/29/22 1:59:28 PM
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I feel like you immediately ignored the "extreme" part. Because nothing you explained about the behavior after was extreme. It was sensible. If you heard "extreme right" would you give that the same courtesy of assuming Im just talking about people on the right who think logically?

But, that's a petty argument on my as well I don't care to get any further into. Just saying, you quoted me and then talked about a different group of people as if I was talking about them.

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Lost_All_Senses
07/29/22 2:05:32 PM
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That's fair. I usually end up ignoring how stuff is used and trying to form a more rational concept of it I can push. But if you're use to people using it a certain way by a large margain, of course it's gonna start coming off that way.

I don't think this debate needs to go any further. Cause we're at an agreement that the people you described aren't the ones I was talking about. I meant the people who go to protest and scream over anyone trying to talk to them even of the person is being polite and just doesn't think exactly like them. Which, we probably both agree aren't helping anyone's perception of their party.

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Antifar
07/29/22 2:12:04 PM
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https://twitter.com/joshchafetz/status/1552986197882015744

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Heartomaton
07/29/22 2:14:33 PM
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Bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see how it works out for them.

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Antifar
07/29/22 2:15:03 PM
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--Zero- posted...
Whats wrong with Yang or a new party? There was a push for Yang at one point and I dont remember in the past there being anything wrong with him.

Is the new parties policys really bad? Were all pretty sick of the two party system arent we?
The party has no politics. It's empty. All it can promise is a vague fusion of the status quo parties everybody is upset with.

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FL81
07/29/22 2:15:10 PM
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meh, already registered with a different 3rd party

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ScazarMeltex
07/29/22 2:16:14 PM
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Why do we need a third right wing party in this country?

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