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Xeybozn
08/11/22 3:25:12 PM
#151:


MacArrowny posted...
Roba is not American.

So he should be able to stream Ghibli stuff on Netflix, then? Interesting.

In that case, I'll go with Kiki's Delivery Service for my recommendation.

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Mobilezoid
08/11/22 3:31:42 PM
#152:


SockoressKnight posted...
Agree with all of this. I really liked the main 3 and the show as a whole. I get where you're coming from about the last "arc". I really loved the way the boys handled it. Maybe Hiyori was too forgiving...it just didn't bother me. Yes, idols should be able to have personal lives and romantic relationships, but it was all just a rumor. It was a thing, they quashed it, and they moved on.
Heroines Run the Show spoilers. I just didn't like how glasses girl wasn't punished in any meaningful way. She stalked, tried to ruin a friend's life, and knocked her out with a punch. Then Hiyori decided it was her own fault and the narrative seemed to agree. Then LIPxLIP said their crazy stalker fans were "cute". I didn't like it!

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SockoressKnight
08/11/22 4:15:41 PM
#153:


Mobilezoid posted...
Heroines Run the Show spoilers. I just didn't like how glasses girl wasn't punished in any meaningful way. She stalked, tried to ruin a friend's life, and knocked her out with a punch. Then Hiyori decided it was her own fault and the narrative seemed to agree. Then LIPxLIP said their crazy stalker fans were "cute". I didn't like it!
I believe Glasses' contrition was genuine, and isn't that the point of punishment :) No need to pile on. Also, I loved the fight. I honestly thought one of the boys was going to step in or maybe the girls' punches would trade, but Hiyori being shorter actually mattered, and she got dropped.
But, yeah, you're right. The show could have made her the heel and have the boys confront her like they did that other girl.

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Mobilezoid
08/11/22 4:43:16 PM
#154:


229. Island
https://myanimelist.net/anime/33012/Island
Summer 2018 (12 episodes)
My Score: 3/10, MAL Score: 6.32/10
Best Character: Ohara Rinne

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZzxGluAXbM

Premise: A man with no memories washes ashore on a remote island. Taken in by a girl who reminds him of someone, he strives to learn who he is while uncovering the islands mysteries.

The Good: Island is based on a visual novel, and I think Id probably enjoy that VN a lot. It has elements of things that I usually enjoy, like amnesia and weird mysteries. Despite its many, many problems, the ending of Island still kind of got to me, too. I can only imagine how much more impactful it wouldve been if the road leading to it had been smoother.

The Bad: I remember people complaining when this was airing that it was an awful adaptation, cutting important things and rushing through everything. I believe that, because for most of Island I was struggling to keep up. Its a story thats all about folklore and great families and little hints towards bigger mysteries. When done well, the conclusion of such stories can be epic. When done poorly, they become jumbled messes, and thats what Island turned into.

Overall: There were hints of greatness in Island, but they were smothered by a poor adaptation. I cant say anything for sure since I havent played the visual novel, but this felt like a story that needed at least 24 episodes to be told well. As it stands, Island is a confusing waste of time.

COMING UP TOMORROW:
228: This anime was enslaved in a botched ritual.
227: This anime worked so hard that it died.
226: This anime is escaping through a dimensional portal.

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SockoressKnight
08/11/22 4:59:42 PM
#155:


Shield Hero has summoning rituals and slaves...Oh. Nevermind. Gonna guess 228 is How Not to Summon a Demon Lord


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Robazoid
08/12/22 5:06:10 AM
#156:


I had to work late today so I figured, what the hell, I at least have enough time for a movie.

BONUS (Movie). Kikis Delivery Service
https://myanimelist.net/anime/512/Majo_no_Takkyuubin
Summer 1989 (1 movie)
My Score: TBA, MAL Score: 8.21/10
Best Character: Kiki
Recommended by: @Xeybozn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bG17OYs-GA
(There's no OP or ED so I linked the trailer)

Premise: Kiki, a thirteen-year-old witch, heads out into the world on her own to continue her training. She settles in a coastal town and starts a business delivering things for people.

The Good: This is the oldest anime Ive ever watched by fifteen years, so it was interesting seeing the style of it and how things were done back then. Im struggling to put this thought into words, but Kiki didnt even have typical anime eyes. It made me wonder if thats just how Studio Ghibli does things or if they werent ubiquitous in the medium yet. In any case, Kikis Delivery Service had a lot of charm, particularly in the story. A young girl going out into the world and having a lighthearted adventure is always a good time. I liked Kiki and her cat Jiji a lot, but all the characters filled their roles well. Tombo and the bakery couple were the obvious standouts, but it also managed to quickly make me care about the people Kiki was doing deliveries for.

The Bad: This is awkward to talk about without spoilers, but the thing Kiki struggled with in the second half felt like it came out of nowhere. I liked the characterization that resulted from it, I just didnt understand why it happened in the first place. It also wasnt clear if things returned to normal, particularly with Jiji. I chose to assume they did because itd make me sad otherwise.

Overall: Kikis Delivery Service is easily my favorite standalone anime movie (out of the six Ive seen, and as this ranking will show it doesnt exactly have strong competition). It told a fun story about a witch and the people she met. Thanks for the recommendation, Xeybozn! Ive finally seen a standalone anime movie that I can call good without any reservations.

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Nanis23
08/12/22 5:18:25 AM
#157:


Robazoid posted...
The Bad: This is awkward to talk about without spoilers, but the thing Kiki struggled with in the second half felt like it came out of nowhere. I liked the characterization that resulted from it, I just didnt understand why it happened in the first place. It also wasnt clear if things returned to normal,
Ghibli movies get a pass because of supreb animation, charm, music, and most importantly - SOUL
But god damn their stories are a mess and don't make sense most of the time

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cyko
08/12/22 7:40:51 AM
#158:


So far I am enjoying this list. For as much as I enjoy anime, I haven't seen a ton of shows - at least not many that I've seen more than an episode or two. This is a nice way for me to get some recommendations and see stuff I definitelt wouldn't like.

My recommendation is Cromartie High School. It's intentionally ridiculous and meant to be an absurd comedy. I have no idea if it will hit your sense of humor, (and some episodes are funnier than others) but overall I find the show hilarious and pretty much all of my friends who have seen it love it. We quote the show all of the time. It's not very long and should be pretty easy to stream.

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Maniac64
08/12/22 10:19:16 AM
#159:


SockoressKnight posted...
Shield Hero has summoning rituals and slaves...Oh. Nevermind. Gonna guess 228 is How Not to Summon a Demon Lord
Yeah that seems like the right place for it to fall.

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Robazoid
08/12/22 1:43:06 PM
#160:


228. How Not to Summon a Demon Lord
https://myanimelist.net/anime/37210/Isekai_Maou_to_Shoukan_Shoujo_no_Dorei_Majutsu
Summer 2018 (12 episodes), Spring 2021 (0/10 episodes, unfinished)
My Score: 3/10, MAL Score: 6.89/10 S1, 6.72/10 S2
Best Character: Shera L. Greenwood

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcCTFOEls9g

Premise: Sakamoto Takuma gets summoned into a fantasy world in the form of his powerful MMO character, Diablo. Now he travels with the girls who summoned him looking to undo it.

The Good: This is a typical isekai anime in a lot of ways. It has an overpowered main character, a harem of sexy ladies, a basic fantasy world, and some comedic moments. I dont love anything How Not to Summon a Demon Lord does, but I give it credit for accomplishing what it sets out to do.

The Bad: With only a few exceptions, Im not a huge fan of isekai. The whole genre feels lazy to me. Isekai authors dont need to think too hard about character backgrounds because its always just some dude from the real world. The setting doesnt need to be coherent because its usually some video game knockoff. How Not to Summon a Demon Lord set out to be a typical isekai, and, as I said before, it succeeded. A typical isekai wont score very high with me, however.

Overall: How Not to Summon a Demon Lord is content to wallow in mediocrity. It doesnt do anything egregiously terrible, but it doesnt do anything to rise above the oversaturated genre either. I apologize for mostly talking about isekai in general in this write-up. How Not to Summon a Demon Lord itself wasnt very memorable. It has a second season now but Im in no hurry to watch it.

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SockoressKnight
08/12/22 2:04:05 PM
#161:


Hmm, I see you went with the big-tittied elf over the flat-chested catgirl...Just an observation. I've got nothing to add as I have no intention of watching this show.

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Mobilezoid
08/12/22 2:11:42 PM
#162:


SockoressKnight posted...
Hmm, I see you went with the big-tittied elf over the flat-chested catgirl...Just an observation. I've got nothing to add as I have no intention of watching this show.
It wasnt an easy choice! They were both such deep and complex characters, after all. Elf girl's subplot with (I think) her brother is just one of the few things I remember from that anime, so I went with her.

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SockoressKnight
08/12/22 2:28:58 PM
#163:


A brother subplot? I didn't realize this was that kind of anime.

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Mobilezoid
08/12/22 4:29:03 PM
#164:


227. Death March to the Parallel World Rhapsody
https://myanimelist.net/anime/34497/Death_March_kara_Hajimaru_Isekai_Kyousoukyoku
Winter 2018 (12 episodes)
My Score: 3/10, MAL Score: 6.47/10
Best Character: Marientail Zena

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMeC9fydMaI

Premise: Programmer Suzuki Ichirou dies from overwork and wakes up in a fantasy world based on the game hed been making. With access to incredible abilities, he sets out to explore this new world.

The Good: I liked some of the video game elements. It showed him futzing with menus and such. I also liked the pop-ups whenever he unlocked a new skill, they led to some fun jokes.

The Bad: This is one of those isekais with an overpowered protagonist who is good at everything and never struggles. He literally starts with cheat code powers and only gets stronger from there. He also gets a harem, mostly consisting of young girls who are literally his slaves. He never does anything to them but it all still felt uncomfortable. Everything else about this was just a typical video game isekai. Im not a huge fan of the genre, so it didnt appeal to me.

Overall: My favorite part of Death March was when the generic main dude casually banged a prostitute. Partly because it was the last thing I expected to see, most boring anime dudes cant even touch a girl without blushing themselves to death. Partly because there was a popup saying he unlocked an immunity to STDs skill. That was funny. The rest of this was mediocre.

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Maniac64
08/12/22 4:29:16 PM
#165:


SockoressKnight posted...
A brother subplot? I didn't realize this was that kind of anime

It's an anime where summoning and other ritual magic is made to look like the girls orgasming.

Edited to make it clear what I'm referring to

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Mobilezoid
08/12/22 4:39:57 PM
#166:


For clarity, Maniac is talking about How Not to Summon and I ninja'd him with my post (unless I'm misremembering Death March and Maniac can type very fast)

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Maniac64
08/12/22 4:41:46 PM
#167:


Mobilezoid posted...
For clarity, Maniac is talking about How Not to Summon and I ninja'd him with my post (unless I'm misremembering Death March and Maniac can type very fast)
Haha man that is unfortunate timing.

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Xeybozn
08/12/22 4:49:04 PM
#168:


Roba: "Ugh, this whole RPG-world isekai genre sucks."

Also Roba: *keeps watching them*

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SockoressKnight
08/12/22 5:09:01 PM
#169:


Maniac64 posted...


It's an anime where summoning and other ritual magic is made to look like the girls orgasming.

Edited to make it clear what I'm referring to
I was making an incest joke :P. And while that is pretty blatantly horny, I like Valkyrie Drive Mermaid, which is worse but yuri. There's also a currently airing show that takes the ecchi slave premise to its logical conclusion. I doubt it's on the list, though.

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Mobilezoid
08/12/22 5:12:40 PM
#170:


Xeybozn posted...
Roba: "Ugh, this whole RPG-world isekai genre sucks."

Also Roba: *keeps watching them*
Two in a row might seem like the start of a pattern, but there aren't that many more video game isekais on my list! There's Sword Art Online, which I'm not sure even counts as an isekai, Grimgar (which isn't too video gamey), Overlord... that's it off the top of my head. You can't fault me for giving a few a try to see if I liked them. The only isekai I'm watching this season is Parallel World Pharmacy, I avoided the seven others

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Maniac64
08/12/22 5:21:33 PM
#171:


No Bofuri?

Though I guess that might not count as an Isekai?

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Mobilezoid
08/12/22 5:29:33 PM
#172:


Maniac64 posted...
No Bofuri?

Though I guess that might not count as an Isekai?
Nope, I wasn't watching much anime that year and isekai in general haven't been my priority in catching up. I looked it up just now and it looked okay, it probably wouldn't end up ranked down here with the horny video game isekais

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KommunistKoala
08/12/22 6:35:18 PM
#173:


it's not an isekai

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pyresword
08/12/22 6:42:59 PM
#174:


I'm pretty confident Roba would like Bofuri a lot more than these, though I only consider it to be in my "this is solid" tier so not really an urgent recommendation or anything.

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Mobilezoid
08/12/22 7:06:35 PM
#175:


226. The Devil is a Part-Timer
https://myanimelist.net/anime/15809/Hataraku_Maou-sama
Spring 2013 (13 episodes), Summer 2022 (??, still airing)
My Score: 3/10, MAL Score: 7.78/10
Best Character: Yusa Emi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oe9gQt-x_BE

Premise: A defeated Demon Lord is forced to retreat through a dimensional portal. Landing in modern day Tokyo, he now works at a fast-food restaurant to pay the bills.

The Good: The Devil is a Part-Timer felt like two entirely different genres fused together. One half is a comedy about a demon lord working at MgRonalds. I enjoyed those reverse-isekai hijinks. I also liked the hero, Yusa Emi. Her and the demon lord had a fun dynamic.

The Bad: For me, the main problem with The Devil is a Part-Timer is that it often strayed away from being a comedy. It kept throwing in sudden high-stakes battles or super serious arcs, which never meshed well with the goofiness that came before and after. Even leaving the tonal clash aside, the writing never made the more dramatic parts compelling. I just kept hoping they'd go back to MgRonalds.

Overall: Theres another anime with an extremely similar premise to this that came out recently, The Great Jahy. I enjoyed it a lot more precisely because it never tried to be dramatic. The Devil is a Part-Timer was good when it was about a demon lord working at a fast-food restaurant, and it was bad when it tried to be anything else. The second season is airing right now, but I'd need to rewatch the first season to refresh my memory first. I'm still not sure I want to.

COMING UP TOMORROW:
225: This anime is selling itself at an auction to the highest bidder.
224: This anime has lost both its arms.
223: This anime failed in the audition to play a solo.

(Fun fact, other than Banana Fish, which doesn't really count since I dropped it, this ranking still hasn't eliminated anything with an overall score of 8/10 or greater on MAL. Even funner fact, all three of the anime tomorrow have over an 8/10 on MAL. These next few days are where I start making enemies!)

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pyresword
08/12/22 7:14:27 PM
#176:


I never cared for this show, mostly because yes I also hated all of the serious parts.

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Maniac64
08/12/22 7:40:53 PM
#177:


Aw I really enjoyed Devil is a part timer.

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Sceptilesolar
08/12/22 7:49:44 PM
#178:


Oh, 225 is Ancient Magus Bride, I expect. I doubt people selling themselves for auction is a particularly common plot point otherwise. 223 could potentially be Euphonium, which would be a damn shame because that show is incredible, but I expect there are other possibilities there.

I liked Devil is a Part-Timer pretty well, and didn't dislike the serious parts, I thought they remained light-hearted enough not to detract from the comedy. It's still not a series I have strong feelings about though. And the second season seemed kinda bad so I didn't follow it.

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KommunistKoala
08/12/22 9:03:52 PM
#179:


hopefully sceptiles predictions arent accurate cause those would both be quite unfortunate

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SockoressKnight
08/12/22 9:10:36 PM
#180:


A music show over 8.00 on MAL made me think Your Lie in April, but I have no idea if there is a solo audition in that show.

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MacArrowny
08/12/22 11:40:17 PM
#181:


Devil is a Part-Timer S2 is more serious and worse than the first season. I'd recommend against watching it.

Music show could be Kono Oto Tomare, though only S2 is above 8. The description sounds more like Eupho tho.

224 = Violet Evergaden I assume. Multiple Kyoani day would be amusing.

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Robazoid
08/13/22 4:01:29 PM
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225. The Ancient Magus Bride
https://myanimelist.net/anime/35062/Mahoutsukai_no_Yome
Fall 2017 (24 episodes), plus 2 OVAs
My Score: 3/10, MAL Score: 8.07/10
Best Character: Ruth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuZbmLLv1vM

Premise: Hatori Chise, a depressed young woman, sells herself at an auction to Elias Ainsworth, a powerful magus. As his apprentice, she learns magic and explores a whole new world.

The Good: The two OVA episodes were great. They were whimsical and fun, and they left me with high expectations for the series. The series itself often had nice locations and situations.

The Bad: Chise was such a boring protagonist. It was fine early on, I understand that she was depressed, but I dont recall her ever improving. She stumbled from one situation to the next with a bland expression on her face, always looking like she had no opinion about what was happening around her. She would encounter the most beautiful or fantastical situations and just not react. Elias was a far more interesting character due to having little understanding of human norms. The relationship between him and Chise was never explored in an interesting way, though. I blame Chise for that too. Even when Elias did something that really shouldve changed things, Chise effectively shrugged her shoulders and status quo remained.

Overall: The Ancient Magus Bride did some interesting things, but they never felt interesting when ultra-bland protagonist Chise was the one reacting to them. The OVAs were really good, and while I havent rewatched them in awhile Im betting its because theyre set further into the timeline after Chise finds a personality. The anime itself, set when she just stared at things and didnt care about anything, didnt appeal to me at all. I think some new OVA episodes have come out recently but I havent watched them yet.

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Sceptilesolar
08/13/22 4:04:30 PM
#183:


Yeah, I can sort of see that complaint. It's funny that my kneejerk reaction was to disagree, because manga Chise is a lunatic. But it takes a while to get there.

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Robazoid
08/13/22 8:07:46 PM
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224. Violet Evergarden
https://myanimelist.net/anime/33352/Violet_Evergarden
Winter 2018 (13 episodes)
My Score: 3/10, MAL Score: 8.67/10
Best Character: Charlotte Abelfreyja Drossel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fc-XPJE3oeM

Premise: Former child soldier Violet Evergarden gets a job writing letters for people. She must infuse the clients words with feelings, but Violet herself has little understanding of emotions.

The Good: Violet Evergarden can be effectively split into two halves, with some episodes being stand-alone stories about her writing letters for someone. Disconnected from the main plot, I enjoyed most of those. They were manipulative to tug at the heartstrings, but Im a sucker for that kind of stuff. The one where she wrote love letters for a princess was my favorite.

The Bad: The other half of Violet Evergarden dealt with the titular character, and I didnt enjoy those at all. Violet makes no sense in this setting. Shes the only female soldier we see, the only child soldier, and the only person with robotic limbs, yet no one ever treats her as unique. Her characterization is flat, only changing depending on what the episode requires. A big deal is made when she passes the exam that allows her to write letters, but her big breakthrough was transcribing what the client said verbatim. Then in later episodes shes emotionally savvy to help a client. Then she goes back to being emotionless in her own episodes. Theres no consistency.

Overall: Violet worked when supporting other peoples stories, but as a character herself she never made any sense. I also found her undying love for her commanding officer off-putting. I mean, imagine a movie about World War I where a soldier forced a little girl to fight for him. Hed be viewed as an abusive villain, not a love interest. Again, this isnt common in the setting because Violet is literally the only child soldier that we see. Send her to an orphanage, dude. I havent seen the movie or any of the extra episodes, mostly because Im guessing theyll be about Violet rather than her helping people like the good standalone episodes.

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08/13/22 8:19:03 PM
#185:


Overall I liked Violet Evergarden a fair amount but if you asked me to rate the last 3 episodes in isolation I think would actually be a 1/10. What a terrible arc.

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changmas
08/13/22 9:28:17 PM
#186:


Robazoid posted...
224. Violet Evergarden
https://myanimelist.net/anime/33352/Violet_Evergarden
Winter 2018 (13 episodes)
My Score: 3/10, MAL Score: 8.67/10
Best Character: Charlotte Abelfreyja Drossel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fc-XPJE3oeM

Premise: Former child soldier Violet Evergarden gets a job writing letters for people. She must infuse the clients words with feelings, but Violet herself has little understanding of emotions.

The Good: Violet Evergarden can be effectively split into two halves, with some episodes being stand-alone stories about her writing letters for someone. Disconnected from the main plot, I enjoyed most of those. They were manipulative to tug at the heartstrings, but Im a sucker for that kind of stuff. The one where she wrote love letters for a princess was my favorite.

The Bad: The other half of Violet Evergarden dealt with the titular character, and I didnt enjoy those at all. Violet makes no sense in this setting. Shes the only female soldier we see, the only child soldier, and the only person with robotic limbs, yet no one ever treats her as unique. Her characterization is flat, only changing depending on what the episode requires. A big deal is made when she passes the exam that allows her to write letters, but her big breakthrough was transcribing what the client said verbatim. Then in later episodes shes emotionally savvy to help a client. Then she goes back to being emotionless in her own episodes. Theres no consistency.

Overall: Violet worked when supporting other peoples stories, but as a character herself she never made any sense. I also found her undying love for her commanding officer off-putting. I mean, imagine a movie about World War I where a soldier forced a little girl to fight for him. Hed be viewed as an abusive villain, not a love interest. Again, this isnt common in the setting because Violet is literally the only child soldier that we see. Send her to an orphanage, dude. I havent seen the movie or any of the extra episodes, mostly because Im guessing theyll be about Violet rather than her helping people like the good standalone episodes.

3/10? Nah, that's absurd. Rant incoming.

The whole concept is themed around the brutality and emptiness of war and the beauty and power of letters, words, and emotions to break through that. Violet is designed an empty husk, a child who's lived only as a weapon of destruction and her whole character development is working to push through that and to understand love. She's a victim of the world she lives in and the life she was forced to live. She's broken by the trauma of being a child soldier and holds Gilbert in such a high regard in a Stockholm syndrome type of way. She was heavily criticized in the early letters she wrote for not conveying the emotions and intent of the client and it takes a while for her to really evoke the emotions and beauty of others through letters.

And it's always easier to comprehend and understand other's emotions than your own. Especially in real life. Everybody can advise their friends in a difficult situation way easier than you can find that perspective on your own life and past, especially when it's filled with trauma. Violet is a tremendously flawed character and that's the entire point.

I also think you're weirdly fixated on Violet being so unique as a child soldier and a female. I don't really see why that's super necessary world-building here. They delve enough into her past to understand the depth of trauma she experienced, and it's shown many times her living outside social norms (practicing typing in her room instead of going to dinner with everyone, asking a bunch of people what love means, not understanding certain technology / words) that reflects her position. And a ton of side characters comment on her mechanical arms, especially the children. I really don't see how showing that there were other female soldiers in the army also would add anything significant to characterization. Why does it matter to you that other characters need to comment on her uniqueness as a former female child soldier?

And she isn't sent to an orphanage because the other characters from the army (Gilbert, Hodgins, etc.) feel a tremendous amount of guilt for their part in forcing her to take part in war. Hodgins in particular has a strong obligation to see to it personally that she's taken care of and able to move forward in life. Throwing her into an orphanage and letting go of that warped sense of honor and duty would straight up turn him into a villain. Orphanages aren't usually particularly great places to live in war-torn countries.


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Robazoid
08/13/22 11:45:11 PM
#187:


I haven't seen Violet Evergarden since it aired, so I can't argue my position with a lot of supporting details from the show or anything. I'm also not going to argue that it's total trash and no one should like it. I mean, you should wait and see some of the dumb bullshit that makes up my own favorites! Everyone has different tastes.

I do want to clarify, though, that I think you misunderstood my orphanage comment. I meant they should've sent her to an orphanage rather than making her a child soldier, not send her to one after the war. Gilbert, Hodgins, etc, shouldn't have that guilt from forcing her take part in the war. She shouldn't have taken part in the war in the first place. I could accept it if this was a common thing in the setting. Child soldiers certainly exist in our own world, after all. But, from everything we're shown, it isn't common in the setting. Yet someone found this little girl and decided to turn her into a killing machine and I just... I don't buy it. I don't understand how that was even a thought someone had, and why no one stepped in and said "wtf are you doing, no we're not sending this little girl to war, what's wrong with you". If Violet was the standout soldier from a whole unit of child soldiers, it'd make a lot more sense to me. Her existing in a vacuum just feels so fake to me.

To use my own analogy again, it'd be like in WW2 if the Americans liberated a French village, found a little orphaned French girl, and decided to conscript her and make her fight for them. If the WW2 Americans were so desperate in some alternate universe that they were conscripting everyone with a pulse, okay fine, but that isn't the world that's presented. I guess I just can't get into the premise of Violet Evergarden. I can't imagine that situation happening in a world where it doesn't happen all the time. And the fact that she's a child soldier is such an important foundation for her character and everything that follows that maybe I didn't give the rest of the anime a fair shake, I dunno.

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Robazoid
08/13/22 11:59:40 PM
#188:


I also found this after a quick search on reddit, which shows I'm at least not alone! Specifically the first three paragraphs, the rest seems like spoilers from later so spoilers for Violet Evergarden.

https://www.reddit.com/r/VioletEvergarden/comments/obwse7/why_violet_evergarden_is_the_worst_masterpiece_to/

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08/14/22 12:04:11 AM
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223. Sound Euphonium
https://myanimelist.net/anime/27989/Hibike_Euphonium
Spring 2015 (13 episodes), Fall 2016 (13 episodes) plus 1 OVA
My Score: 3/10, MAL Score: 8.00/10 S1, 8.30/10 S2
Best Character: Tanaka Asuka

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xt_EJXhrLOc

Premise: Oumae Kumiko joins the high school band club, led by a famous new advisor whose training is strict. Aiming for nationals, the club must work hard to overcome their differences.

The Good: I enjoyed the first season of Sound Euphonium quite a bit. It introduced things like the schism between the various grades and handled it well. The friendship between Kumiko and Reina was great, it was fun watching them grow closer and they had a lot of moments together. Asuka was also the absolute best. Her hilarity brightened every scene she was in.

The Bad: The second season of Sound Euphonium tainted my good feelings from the first. There were no more good Kumiko/Reina moments. What little Reina there was focused on her crush on their advisor, and I found it creepy how everyone supported it. I didnt like anything to do with those two new characters (Nozomi, Mizore) that they introduced. It felt like a retread of the drama between the grades from the first season. Kumiko also really shouldnt have had anything to do with that plot, but she kept being in the perfect spot to eavesdrop, and then everyone would decide this random first year was the one to fix their unrelated issues. It all felt hollow, like this was only happening because Kumiko was the protagonist. Not even Asuka could escape being ruined by the drama vortex that was Sound Euphonium S2.

Overall: If Sound Euphonium was only one season, Id probably rank it a 7 or an 8/10. The second season dragged so hard that I was left with very few good feelings by the end of it. I still seriously considered Asuka for my top 100 characters. When I think about her now, though, I dont remember her fun moments. I think of that awful subplot with her mother.

COMING UP TOMORROW:
222: Im curious how this anime ranked so low.
221: This anime shouldve produced a better anime.

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changmas
08/14/22 12:51:34 AM
#190:


Robazoid posted...
I meant they should've sent her to an orphanage rather than making her a child soldier, not send her to one after the war.

that's fair, I did in fact misunderstand that.

But yeah, it's unfortunate from my perspective that you weren't able to get past the premise. I believe the fact that you're not alone in that regard but I still think it's pretty great and would give it like an 8/10 myself.

But yeah, everyone definitely has different tastes.

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pyresword
08/14/22 1:00:33 AM
#191:


It is impossible for me to talk about Sound Euphonium with any sense of rationality, but I stopped watching after episode 8 despite more or less liking the content up to that point, and to this day I'm convinced I made the right call.

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KommunistKoala
08/14/22 1:36:50 AM
#192:


alright i take back what i said about call of the night

it can't get any worse than this

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MacArrowny
08/14/22 1:41:14 AM
#193:


So if you'd give Eupho S1 an 8/10 and the series overall a 3/10, does that mean S2 is like a 1/10? Would it be in last place?

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Robazoid
08/14/22 2:03:08 AM
#194:


It isn't as simple as an average of the two seasons. It's about the overall feelings I come away from the show with, I guess. I liked a lot of stuff from Eupho S1, but then Eupho S2 soured me on just about all of those things. That's different from (future ranking spoilers) something like Amanchu. I didn't like Amanchu S2 very much, but it didn't ruin Pikari or anything so its ranking didn't suffer as much. I'd say Eupho S2 was a 3/10, and it was just such a strong 3/10 that S1 couldn't elevate it. I dunno, the rankings are unfair and mysterious.

KommunistKoala posted...
alright i take back what i said about call of the night

it can't get any worse than this
I thought about this when you tried to recommend Hibike Euphonium. Don't worry, Eupho is popular and well regarded enough that I'm almost certainly an outlier.

Everyone will probably feel disappointed in me in the near future, too. The 3/10s are a bit of a graveyard of popular anime that I just didn't like. There are still several shows ranked over 8 on MAL that are coming right up.

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Bane_Of_Despair
08/14/22 8:54:18 AM
#195:


Oh no I hope 221 isn't what I think it is

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Sheep007
08/14/22 9:30:59 AM
#196:


I think I know what 222 and 221 are and 3/10 for any of them along with 224-223 absolutely kills me. Poor KyoAni.

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th3l3fty
08/14/22 9:44:47 AM
#197:


Amanchu was bad from S1E1

hard to ruin something when it was never good to begin with tbqh

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Robazoid
08/14/22 2:49:51 PM
#198:


th3l3fty posted...
Amanchu was bad from S1E1

hard to ruin something when it was never good to begin with tbqh
Clearly lefty is racist against muppets, because that's the only way I could see someone disliking half-muppet Pikari.

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Robazoid
08/14/22 2:52:04 PM
#199:


(I honestly hadn't noticed at any point while preparing this ranking that this was three KyoAni shows in a row. I usually don't think of anime in terms of studios. I have nothing against KyoAni, though! As the rest of this ranking will prove, I've enjoyed as much of their stuff as I've disliked.)

222. Hyouka
https://myanimelist.net/anime/12189/Hyouka
Spring 2012 (22 episodes)
My Score: 3/10, MAL Score: 8.09/10
Best Character: Irisu Fuyumi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tvOowLuKxs

Premise: Oreki Houtarou wants to live while expending as little energy as possible. Then he joins the same club as Chitanda Eru, a girl whose boundless curiosity forces Oreki to solve mysteries.

The Good: The animation was great. I also liked the concept. Solving unimportant mysteries is a fun idea, at least in theory. My favorite character still wound up being Irisu Fuyumi rather than anyone from the main cast, though. I liked how she thought as little of those characters as I do.

The Bad: I really wanted to like the main characters. Oreki is a character type Ive enjoyed in other anime. Chitanda is curious and cute, I shouldve liked her a lot. I didnt, though. I found Oreki boring, and the only thing I sympathized with him on was cringing every time Chitanda got curious. Hyouka is difficult for me to explain my dislike for. My best attempt at putting this into words is that, while I like the idea of solving banal mysteries, I didnt like how seriously the characters treated them. It got really grating in one of the later mysteries when they were all genuinely angry and disappointed in Oreki for making a mistake. The mystery didnt even matter, and I didnt see any of them jumping in to solve it. I also didnt like how none of the mysteries felt like they gave enough clues for the viewer to solve it themselves ahead of time.

Overall: Hyouka is an anime that simply was not for me. I thought Id enjoy the central premise of low-stakes mysteries, but the way clues were provided, and the way characters approached them, turned me off. I think the concept wouldve worked better for me as a comedy. Hyouka felt like a drama instead and I just couldnt get into it.

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Sceptilesolar
08/14/22 3:03:45 PM
#200:


This ranking I do get, I had about the same feeling. The mysteries were fine but there was some weird drama surrounding the main characters that didn't appeal to me

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