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Guns_of_Verdun
07/26/22 3:34:50 PM
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They're gonna meet gay dudes in their life.

It's not like they're showing hardcore gay sex in movies about toy spacemen. I don't really get what the problem is.

Who sat down and watched Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and thought to themselves "But wait, what are Splinters sexual preferences!? I need to know that before I let my kids watch this cartoon about pizza eating turtles fighting evil robots from the Earth's core."

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DespondentDeity
07/26/22 3:36:21 PM
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The problem is that certain people wish gay people would just stop existing so they dont have to think about it.

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Gobstoppers12
07/26/22 3:37:00 PM
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There is no problem with it. People who dislike it are people who genuinely wish that gay people didn't exist.

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Solar_Crimson
07/26/22 3:37:34 PM
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DespondentDeity posted...
The problem is that certain people wish gay people would just stop existing so they dont have to think about it.
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These.

Even so much as hinting at the existence of homosexuals means that you're a "groomer" to these people.

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Foppe
07/26/22 3:48:51 PM
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They think that including a gay character, even if that person does absolutely nothing gay-related, then they are pushing their gay agenda, trying to brainwash our children into gays, which will split their families because they would never accept their children being gay.

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Funkydog
07/26/22 3:52:21 PM
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DespondentDeity posted...
The problem is that certain people wish gay people would just stop existing so they dont have to think about it.


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Cobra1010
07/26/22 6:50:21 PM
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I wonder if it's because if the characters are straight, they don't need romance since their kids shows.

But the only way these TV show and movie producers know to make gay characters is to have them in a romantic relationship with another gay person.

Take the movie Dredd (2012) for example. Its just brutal action. No romance, no drama.

But say if they wanted to add a gay character in the next movie, that gay character will have a romantic partner or interest shoe-horned into the movie just to show they are gay.


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FortuneCookie
07/26/22 7:05:15 PM
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"Something, something, groomer."
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SSJPurple
07/26/22 7:05:42 PM
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Nothing. Normalizing the fact gay couples exist isnt a bad thing

But through the conservative POV normalizing the fact gay people exist means media is trying to turn their kids gay lol


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Deutschenlied
07/26/22 7:07:23 PM
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It has to feel very shitty for gay parents to know they are being deemed inappropriate for children.
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Solar_Crimson
07/26/22 8:30:53 PM
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Deutschenlied posted...
It has to feel very shitty for gay parents to know they are being deemed inappropriate for children.
The next step is likely to remove those children from said gay parents.

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yusiko
07/27/22 11:07:09 AM
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Most kids media still has heterosexual romance

I'm surprised there hasn't been a backlash from homophobed yet since it's a Disney movie and 2 of the girls in it end up together at the end

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMOwRmAQHv4

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07/27/22 11:10:09 AM
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GrandConjuraton
07/27/22 11:22:02 AM
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DespondentDeity posted...
The problem is that certain people wish gay people would just stop existing so they dont have to think about it.


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AloneIBreak
07/27/22 11:25:08 AM
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Opponents hold two views, one of which is false, the other of which is irrational. The former, that sexuality is a conscious choice, the latter that anything other than heterosexuality is morally wrong.

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yusiko
07/27/22 11:32:53 AM
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There weren't openly gay characters in kids shows when I was a kid and I had never met a gay person growing up

Yet I still ended up gay
By their logic I should love boobs

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ElatedVenusaur
07/27/22 11:39:01 AM
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yusiko posted...
There weren't openly gay characters in kids shows when I was a kid and I had never met a gay person growing up

Yet I still ended up gay
By their logic I should love boobs
Conversely, I should be a straight cis dude, rather than a gay trans lady.

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IShall_Run_Amok
07/27/22 12:14:24 PM
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It would make the world a slightly better place, which is the opposite of what traditionalists want to happen.

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thronedfire2
07/27/22 12:15:32 PM
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Some people dont want their kids to know gay people even exist until the latest possible age

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Lil_Bit83
07/27/22 12:16:13 PM
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Not much is wrong with it, aside from people are assholes and cartoons seldom handle socio-political topics without botching it.

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bigblu89
07/27/22 12:39:22 PM
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I haven't seen the movie yet, how did you know it was a gay character?

And was she a "gay character" or was she "a character that happens to be gay".

I feel there's a bit of a difference.

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dioxxys
07/27/22 2:29:42 PM
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There isn't, I really liked the gay parts in Steven universe
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_Rinku_
07/27/22 2:35:23 PM
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yusiko posted...
I'm surprised there hasn't been a backlash from homophobed yet since it's a Disney movie and 2 of the girls in it end up together at the end
Okay, so I haven't seen the movie, but I have seen a decent bit of discourse about this:

If you're referring to the two I think you are, one of them is non-binary. Both the actor and the character. Which is cool. I'd probably have hated myself a hell of a lot less growing up if I had heard of the concept of being non-binary.
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Whirlingpetal
07/27/22 2:41:57 PM
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Cobra1010 posted...
I wonder if it's because if the characters are straight, they don't need romance since their kids shows.
What? Kid shows have always had romances in them, even if they were heterosexual. There were plenty of shows I watched growing up where romance was just a part of the plot to be there.

bigblu89 posted...
And was she a "gay character" or was she "a character that happens to be gay".
Theyre a gay character. There is no difference between a gay character and a character who happens to be gay.

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bigblu89
07/27/22 2:53:10 PM
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Whirlingpetal posted...
Theyre a gay character. There is no difference between a gay character and a character who happens to be gay.

I feel the way they're portrayed differentiates between being a "gay character" and a "Character who happens to be gay".

When a character's primary characteristic is that they are gay (think of Jack from Will & Grace) as opposed to the Police Chief in The Flash, who you wouldn't know was gay until you see the scene where his husband visits him in the hospital, I feel there's a difference.

Sometimes in movies and TV, "being gay" is a character trait.

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Whirlingpetal
07/27/22 2:56:44 PM
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bigblu89 posted...
When a character's primary characteristic is that they are gay (think of Jack from Will & Grace) as opposed to the Police Chief in The Flash, who you wouldn't know was gay until you see the scene where his husband visits him in the hospital, I feel there's a difference.
Yeah. Your example is a primary character in a sitcom being over exaggerated to fit the genres narrative beats and literally some guy you cant remember the name of from a CW drama show. Also Jacks primary character trait is flamboyant not gay

Its almost like genres handle personalities differently, who woulda thought.

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So_dreamycreamy
07/27/22 2:57:49 PM
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bigblu89 posted...
And was she a "gay character" or was she "a character that happens to be gay".

I feel there's a bit of a difference.
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Lost_All_Senses
07/27/22 2:58:42 PM
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I never had a deep seeded problem with gay people or anyone for that matter. I was ignorant in my youth and seen them as goofy tho. Because I grew up around masculine men and that will effect you in certain ways. Even though it had it's ties in me way less than everyone else. I just didn't have any insight on the gay community, so my shallow understanding made it easy to joke about without much thought.

Media is probably the best thing that made me realize gay people were no different than anyone else and ai actually respected their ability to be themselves and not give a fuck, since those were the ones most represented by a large margain. It's not gonna turn your kid gay of they're not already gay, it's just gonna teach them other kids being gay isn't something that makes them different from you. You're just sexually attracted to the opposite sex and they're not and everything else about them can still be relatable.

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thekosmicfool
07/27/22 3:00:15 PM
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Only indication as to her orientation is she mentions occasionally fucking a therapist that she refers to as a she.

No one in the movie has a love interest, though, aside from a married couple.

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bigblu89
07/27/22 3:05:59 PM
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Whirlingpetal posted...
Yeah. Your example is a primary character in a sitcom being over exaggerated to fit the genres narrative beats and literally some guy you cant remember the name of from a CW drama show. Also Jacks primary character trait is flamboyant not gay

Its almost like genres handle personalities differently, who woulda thought.
Well. I know his name, I just didn't feel it was needed in the conversation.

I can tell no matter what I say, even if it's in agreement, will be met with pushback, so I'll cut my losses here.

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