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BipBapBam
07/23/22 2:28:12 PM
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Subarashii









And no I'm not putting in Frieza a 2nd time because of RoF lmao.

Black >>>>

Dude was entertaining af. Zamasu himself was pretty funny too with his running gag of rambling on about filthy ningen and always getting punched mid ramblings.

Jiren is easily the most boring. He was a big nothing character outside of ''I'm so strong'', smh. Jiren The Gray? More like Jiren The Bland.

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Irony
07/23/22 2:30:20 PM
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Super doesn't have any good villains.

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Smackems
07/23/22 2:32:38 PM
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Vegeta from DBZA

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LordYeezus
07/23/22 2:32:40 PM
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You gotta admit, Cell was badass

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AdrianBeterson
07/23/22 2:32:58 PM
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Imagine having Frieza, the most iconic villain in the series who the entire franchise is centered around and instead voting for Edgelord Goku LOL

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Spiderman23JII
07/23/22 2:33:31 PM
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Cell

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MrDrMan
07/23/22 2:33:52 PM
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Cell was the best IMO.

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ThePrinceFish
07/23/22 2:34:13 PM
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Perfect Cell's attitude is just perfect.

Goku Black is almost as good but he's just not as charmingly smug.

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The_Popo
07/23/22 2:36:57 PM
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Freeza > Cell > Vegeta > Piccolo Daimao = Ma Jr > Majin Buu > Beerus > Tao Pai Pai > General Blue > Goku Black > Hit > Broly > Jiren

Not gonna rank people like Pilaf or the rest of the Red Ribbon Army because they werent a big enough obstacle or were dispatched too quickly.

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inTaCtfuL
07/23/22 2:37:33 PM
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I never watched super, i know Frieza returns or something. But did Super fuck up his character that much or what? Because in DBZ Frieza >>> Cell tbh

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The_Popo
07/23/22 2:38:41 PM
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inTaCtfuL posted...
I never watched super, i know Frieza returns or something. But did Super fuck up his character that much or what? Because in DBZ Frieza >>> Cell tbh

Id say he is one of the highlights of Super. There were definite flaws in his movie, but as a character, he has been fun, IMO


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Heartomaton
07/23/22 2:39:03 PM
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Z Broly. Not a popular opinion, but I liked his original backstory. Yes, it's stupid, but so is the rest of the series under any scrutiny.

Would have said Super Broly, but I can't in good conscience count him as an actual villain.

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Irony
07/23/22 2:39:15 PM
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inTaCtfuL posted...
I never watched super, i know Frieza returns or something. But did Super fuck up his character that much or what? Because in DBZ Frieza >>> Cell tbh
He's semi comedy relief like every character in Super except like 3

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AdrianBeterson
07/23/22 2:39:21 PM
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inTaCtfuL posted...
I never watched super, i know Frieza returns or something. But did Super fuck up his character that much or what? Because in DBZ Frieza >>> Cell tbh
Yes, Super turned Frieza into a gag, then into an anti-hero. Both of which go completely against his character.

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Pepys_Monster
07/23/22 2:39:49 PM
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Zamasu and Goku Black were great. Certainly better than Frieza rehashed with a palette swap.

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NobleWill8
07/23/22 2:40:15 PM
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inTaCtfuL posted...
I never watched super, i know Frieza returns or something. But did Super fuck up his character that much or what? Because in DBZ Frieza >>> Cell tbh
No, Id say Frieza might be the only character who I like more because of DBS, he made the ToP so entertaining

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BipBapBam
07/23/22 2:40:55 PM
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Heartomaton posted...
Z Broly. Not a popular opinion, but I liked his original backstory. Yes, it's stupid, but so is the rest of the series under any scrutiny.

Would have said Super Broly, but I can't in good conscience count him as an actual villain.
That's why I used antagonist and not villain since Hit and Jiren are technically also not villains. They were both just forced to enter a tournament and just happened to be pit against Goku and the gang lol.

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Heartomaton
07/23/22 2:42:04 PM
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BipBapBam posted...
That's why I used antagonist and not villain since Hit and Jiren are technically also not villains. They were both just forced to enter a tournament and just happened to be pit against Goku and the gang lol.

Well then Super Broly. Everything about his revamp made him better than the original, IMO. Especially the cranking of his potential strength so high that the knob snapped off and getting a cute green girlfriend.

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voldothegr8
07/23/22 2:42:28 PM
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I threw Buu some love, don't know why but always loved that arc.

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The_Popo
07/23/22 2:42:44 PM
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AdrianBeterson posted...
Yes, Super turned Frieza into a gag, then into an anti-hero. Both of which go completely against his character.

I mean, he was only an anti-hero as a means of remaining in existence and coming back to life. He provided services for his own gain, then went back to being a villain.

He isnt Vegeta 2.0 by any means.

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Kimbos_Egg
07/23/22 2:43:38 PM
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lol if you think frieza is an anti hero now

he only "helped" in the tournament so he'd be revived, and still he immediately tried to fuck his own team over and defect.

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GoldKnightSkye
07/23/22 2:44:07 PM
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I don't know why Cell is getting so many damn votes. He's just a total ripoff of Frieza and a far less interesting one. DBZ had the same problem that Rocky had going from 3 to 4.

"Here's the biggest, strongest, meanest opponent you'll ever have."
"Hi. I'm even stronger than the last guy."

At least Buu was different.

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Pepys_Monster
07/23/22 2:45:57 PM
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Heartomaton posted...
Well then Super Broly. Everything about his revamp made him better than the original, IMO.
Z Broly was like Michael Myers, a bloodthirsty psychopath. Super Broly is like a school bully who loses against the kids he's trying to bully.

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AdrianBeterson
07/23/22 2:46:22 PM
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The_Popo posted...
I mean, he was only an anti-hero as a means of remaining in existence and coming back to life. He provided services for his own gain, then went back to being a villain.

He isnt Vegeta 2.0 by any means.
Him teaming up with Saiyans (even for his personal gain) goes completely against his character. It's would be like Hitler teaming up with Jewish people. Z Frieza would never do that, which is why it goes completely against his character.

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PMarth2002
07/23/22 2:46:48 PM
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Frieza, unless we're counting DBZA, then their version of Perfect cell.

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Irony
07/23/22 2:47:11 PM
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Z Broly's backstory and motivation makes him one of the worst villains by default.

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ThePrinceFish
07/23/22 2:48:26 PM
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GoldKnightSkye posted...
I don't know why Cell is getting so many damn votes. He's just a total ripoff of Frieza and a far less interesting one. DBZ had the same problem that Rocky had going from 3 to 4.

"Here's the biggest, strongest, meanest opponent you'll ever have."
"Hi. I'm even stronger than the last guy."

At least Buu was different.
Bad guy who wants to fight just because he's better than you and he knows it is more interesting than bad guy galactic tyrant who fights because he's just so evil and wants to rule the galaxy like every other galactic tyrant in fiction.

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Kimbos_Egg
07/23/22 2:49:47 PM
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AdrianBeterson posted...
Him teaming up with Saiyans (even for his personal gain) goes completely against his character. It's would be like Hitler teaming up with Jewish people. Z Frieza would never do that, which is why it goes completely against his character.

it really, really doesn't. He was doing it for completely selfish reasons, and actively tried to fuck over his own team.

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Heartomaton
07/23/22 2:50:14 PM
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Pepys_Monster posted...
Z Broly was like Michael Myers, a bloodthirsty psychopath. Super Broly is like a school bully who loses against the kids he's trying to bully.

First assessment is fine, second isn't.

Playing off the school bully angle, Super Broly is more like a large, gentle kid who picks on people smaller than him because he misguidedly wants to impress a group of other kids that he really shouldn't be associating with.

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BipBapBam
07/23/22 2:51:12 PM
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Frieza's constant ''will he betray the heroes or not'' uncertainty moments were some of the most entertaining scenes in the ToP. I can understand not liking him in RoF since everyone kinda just treated him as a joke there, but in the ToP arc he was amazing.

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AdrianBeterson
07/23/22 2:52:12 PM
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Kimbos_Egg posted...
it really, really doesn't. He was doing it for completely selfish reasons, and actively tried to fuck over his own team.
Z Frieza with his body decapitated and sliced in half literally tries to kill Super Saiyan Goku because he would rather die than receive help from a Saiyan.

Super completely massacred Frieza's character.

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MrDrMan
07/23/22 2:59:42 PM
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GoldKnightSkye posted...
I don't know why Cell is getting so many damn votes. He's just a total ripoff of Frieza and a far less interesting one. DBZ had the same problem that Rocky had going from 3 to 4.

"Here's the biggest, strongest, meanest opponent you'll ever have."
"Hi. I'm even stronger than the last guy."

At least Buu was different.

Frieza is nothing like Cell wtf

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Irony
07/23/22 3:01:43 PM
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AdrianBeterson posted...
Z Frieza with his body decapitated and sliced in half literally tries to kill Super Saiyan Goku because he would rather die than receive help from a Saiyan.

Super completely massacred Frieza's character.
That's not what happened. Goku dropped his guard so Frieza attacked him from behind.

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The_Popo
07/23/22 3:03:45 PM
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AdrianBeterson posted...
Z Frieza with his body decapitated and sliced in half literally tries to kill Super Saiyan Goku because he would rather die than receive help from a Saiyan.

Super completely massacred Frieza's character.

Ive never read it as him attacking Goku out of bigotry in that final moment. Hed just been beaten and his pride wouldnt allow for it. At that point in the story, it was largely alluded that Ginyu was the 2nd most powerful in the galaxy at 120,000, and Freeza dominantly outclassed him (while never stated, his power was at least several million, and many peg his full power at 120,000,000).

That final moment was his refusal to accept someone stronger than himself, right in the heat of the moment. His final internal monologue is even a reassurance to himself that he is the strongest in the Universe.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/2/0/AAEqD0AADfGc.jpg

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Tote_All_
07/23/22 3:03:56 PM
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Irony posted...
That's not what happened. Goku dropped his guard so Frieza attacked him from behind.

This lol, Frieza was always a coward.
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BipBapBam
07/23/22 9:14:02 PM
#36:


Still the coolest villain entrance ever. Literally rivals Vegeta's badass movie intros, but without getting instantly bodied like he always does lmao

https://youtu.be/SoWBDtk03XI

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sabin017
07/23/22 9:18:04 PM
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BipBapBam posted...
Frieza's constant ''will he betray the heroes or not'' uncertainty moments were some of the most entertaining scenes in the ToP. I can understand not liking him in RoF since everyone kinda just treated him as a joke there, but in the ToP arc he was amazing.
In the ToP he was known as Angel Freeza. Angel Freeza > RoF Freeza

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Kim_Seong-a
07/23/22 9:18:29 PM
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Cell

Though honestly I liked him better when he was a disgusting horror creature that ate people with his dick.

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Garlands_Soul
07/23/22 9:18:36 PM
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I think of this series in terms of least terrible usually but I think Cell is legitimately pretty cool.

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The_Popo
07/23/22 9:20:13 PM
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BipBapBam posted...
Still the coolest villain entrance ever. Literally rivals Vegeta's badass movie intros, but without getting instantly bodied like he always does lmao

Goku Blacks entrance was a really good one and a highlight of DBS, but Id give Cell a slight edge. That one gave me goosebumps when I originally saw it.

The built-up mystery of some new threat other than 17 & 18 causing mayhem, the scene of an empty city with clothes everywhere, the use of silence along with with music, the shadows cast by Cell, and then he appears looking more monstrous than human. Love that reveal.

https://youtu.be/6jSqVhHGeV8

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MedeaLysistrata
07/23/22 9:25:30 PM
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Buu, even though the arc fucking sucks

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MorganTJ
07/23/22 9:40:01 PM
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Frieza overall, but Imperfect Cell is my favorite. He was a slasher villain who had to sneak around because hed lose if he tried to fight directly as soon as he awoke. He loses a lot of those pragmatic qualities once he becomes Perfect.
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LordYeezus
07/24/22 2:38:55 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
Buu, even though the arc fucking sucks

Vegeta carried the Buu saga

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