Current Events > Would you say almost all middle managers in companies are legitimately smart?

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or is it the same thing as being a high level, level C, employee, that they only got to be operations manager because they knew the right people to get them the job?

I hope that theres still legitimacy in the hiring that they pick the right person for their job based on merit and how talented and smart they are

Naw

I have heard way too many stories about incompetent managers to say yes.

Dude, have you *met* many middle managers?

The_Creep_2020 posted...

Dude, have you *met* many middle managers?

I have met a few and they seemed like smart people

But ill be honest I havent met many

The_Creep_2020 posted...

Dude, have you *met* many middle managers?

This. I havent met any middle managers whos job was valid. Usually they are Peter principle stooges. The people that actually get work done usually dont get promoted.

I think they are reasonably intelligent and have a basic understanding of the business foundation principles.

What I do think many lack is the ability to use the book smarts they have in a good applicable manner. It's sorta like the kid who is good at mathematics but absolutely is horrid at physics (which I use because this applies to me). I have a really good understanding of the foundation of mathematics, but when it comes to actually applying those principles to the applications they are used for in physics, I struggle immensely with putting it together.

It is really unfortunate that such gifts are a little wasted.

PiOverlord posted...

I think they are reasonably intelligent and have a basic understanding of the business foundation principles.

What I do think many lack is the ability to use the book smarts they have in a good applicable manner. It's sorta like the kid who is good at mathematics but absolutely is horrid at physics (which I use because this applies to me). I have a really good understanding of the foundation of mathematics, but when it comes to actually applying those principles to the applications they are used for in physics, I struggle immensely with putting it together.

It is really unfortunate that such gifts are a little wasted.

In retail settings alone there is also the problem of a level of disconnect between the store and upper management that gets reported on.

ToadallyAwesome posted...

This. I havent met any middle managers whos job was valid. Usually they are Peter principle stooges. The people that actually get work done usually dont get promoted.

thats really a damn shame because those people that are smart and get work done deserve the promotion

I've seen both. it depends on the company

usually at a good company in tech they won't make it that far. of course they can still be assholes and sycophants and often are

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It depends on the company, the type of industry, and what you consider "smart". But I would definitely not say "almost all" are smart.

No. They're asskissers. It's so frustrating working with them because their MO is how can I look good in front of my boss.

lol

Squall28 posted...

No. They're asskissers. It's so frustrating working with them because their MO is how can I look good in front of my boss.

sad how they can possibly be not that smart and still make it farther than people in the hood who are legitimately smart/intelligent

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