Current Events > Idaho repubs vote to kill the mother

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KTG2 posted...

There's a big difference between your AR-15 being overly effective against civilians and your AR-15 going up against literally anything else the US military has

You are a bellend, basically

In a person to person battle, an AR-15 would still be effective, even against soldiers with body armor.

Now, bring in tanks and other armored vehicles and, yeah, it ain't doing shit

wackyteen posted...

Swing states that have red legislatures that just got a green light that they can legally deny all election results they don't find favorable...

This is true. Trump opened the gates for any election results being declared a lie with no reason at all.

We are already in fascism.

wackyteen posted...

Swing states that have red legislatures that just got a green light that they can legally deny all election results they don't find favorable...

That's a good point

VigorouslySwish posted...

This is true. Trump opened the gates for any election results being declared a lie with no reason at all.

We are already in fascism.

There is some hope left.

If the results are clear enough and still overturned, it may rile enough feathers to discourage future attempts.

Bit doubtful but it's there.

wackyteen posted...

There is some hope left.

If the results are clear enough and still overturned, it may rile enough feathers to discourage future attempts.

Bit doubtful but it's there.

Yeah Im doubtful on that, but maybe

Man do I hate always being right about horrific things.

They're still going to get worse. If the GOP wins the Presidency, this will be a nationwide, federal policy. Our government will murder innocent women and imprison any doctor who refuses to allow it.

Modern medicine is dead.

wackyteen posted...

In a person to person battle, an AR-15 would still be effective, even against soldiers with body armor.

level III body armor reliably (but not universally) defeats AR-15 rounds

the US military wears level IV body armor which is designed to reliably defeat armor piercing rounds from military-grade weapons and almost universally stops civilian-grade small arms fire

there's a reason most US soldier deaths in the middle east were to IEDs--bomb fragment shrapnel velocity is much higher than that of a rifle

_HayleyWilliams posted...

Man do I hate always being right about horrific things.

They're still going to get worse. If the GOP wins the Presidency, this will be a nationwide, federal policy. Our government will murder innocent women and imprison any doctor who refuses to allow it.

Modern medicine is dead.

Youre right

But youre wrong in thinking democrats would have it any other way. Theyve proven time and time again that their talk is complete bullshit and they are just republicans in blue.

Theres no way out at this point imo, its all corrupt to the core

I truly think its at the point where if a third party really stood a chance at winning, the reds and blues would just simply outlaw third parties

VigorouslySwish posted...

Youre right

But youre wrong in thinking democrats would have it any other way. Theyve proven time and time again that their talk is complete bullshit and they are just republicans in blue.

Theres no way out at this point imo, its all corrupt to the core

It really does feel like kicking the can down the road. The Democrats will continue to maintain the "status quo" and the GOP will win in 2028, 2032, 2036, some day, even if they lose in 2024. The Democrats really do seem complicit, or at least entirely delusional.

Sackgurl posted...

level III body armor reliably (but not universally) defeats AR-15 rounds

the US military wears level IV body armor which is designed to reliably defeat armor piercing rounds from military-grade weapons and almost universally stops civilian-grade small arms fire

there's a reason most US soldier deaths in the middle east were to IEDs--bomb fragment shrapnel velocity is much higher than that of a rifle

And most of that body armor will survive one or two rounds before, generally, being useless

I'm not saying it isn't effective. It's better than nothing by a long shot, but it's not going to let you storm down an aisle of bullets either

Can someone clear up the whole ectopic pregnancy procedure thing for me? I see people online call the procedure an abortion that would be restricted in some of these states but I also see people say that the procedure isn't considered an abortion and wouldn't be restricted.

_HayleyWilliams posted...

It really does feel like kicking the can down the road. The Democrats will continue to maintain the "status quo" and the GOP will win in 2028, 2032, 2036, some day, even if they lose in 2024. The Democrats really do seem complicit, or at least entirely delusional.

Its all a fucking puppet show to make us think we still have a choice.

Its kinda funny bc this was my stupid teenage opinion, and then in my 20s and early 30s I truly believed in it all, but now I realize my teenage self was right all along

In regards to the political climate, I think the GOP will turn in on itself. They've courted very unstable elements into the party and it could very well tear them apart, regardless of what judicial gains they make.

Even if they get the fascist regime they're gunning for, without pervasive strong leadership, it's as likely to tear itself apart when the leader dies as it is to be a strong presence.

Combine that with the ever increasing pressures on the American people (already) from a brutal fascist regime and its unlikely that it'd stick around for too long.

Not saying it wouldn't suck and that we should just let it happen, but it isn't all doom and gloom

To all the people who didnt vote for Hillary because she wasnt progressive enough and/or you wanted Bernie - are you happy now?

Smashingpmkns posted...

Can someone clear up the whole ectopic pregnancy procedure thing for me? I see people online call the procedure an abortion that would be restricted in some of these states but I also see people say that the procedure isn't considered an abortion and wouldn't be restricted.

Way I understand it, the medicines required to treat it are classified as abortion medicines because they're the same medicine used to induce abortions. So the act of treating an ectopic pregnancy isn't (technically an) abortion but the medicines required would be banned.

MrAndersonWb posted...

To all the people who didnt vote for Hillary because she wasnt progressive enough and/or you wanted Bernie - are you happy now?

She would have done the same shit, though for sure there wouldnt have been a cult following. Thats the problem/moneymaker with red voters. A republican could literally do ANYTHING and still get the vote. Its a brainwashed cult.

I think a lot of it stems off of humans not being able to admit they were wrong

How about RBG not stepping down?

She knew what she was doing there, dont fool yourselves

Its all a fucking puppet show

wackyteen posted...

And most of that body armor will survive one or two rounds before, generally, being useless

yes, the design of kevlar weave armor is such that you and your target exchange fire; if your target has training equivalent to your own, you each take a bullet. your target falls, dead or incapacitated. you deploy to base, exchange armor, and return. this is repeated across the battlefield by each soldier.

i know you're thinking "but semiautomatic weapons fire many shots!"

most shots miss.

wackyteen posted...

Way I understand it, the medicines required to treat it are classified as abortion medicines because they're the same medicine used to induce abortions. So the act of treating an ectopic pregnancy isn't (technically an) abortion but the medicines required would be banned.

Ahh okay. Thanks.

VigorouslySwish posted...

She would have done the same shit, though for sure there wouldnt have been a cult following. Thats the problem/moneymaker with red voters. A republican could literally do ANYTHING and still get the vote. Its a brainwashed cult.

I think a lot of it stems off of humans not being able to admit they were wrong

she wouldnt have nominated crazy handmaids tale lady or the other two weirdos for sure

VigorouslySwish posted...

How about RBG not stepping down?

She knew what she was doing there, dont fool yourselves

Its all a fucking puppet show

this is true . She was selfish

Sackgurl posted...

yes, the design of kevlar weave armor is such that you and your target exchange fire; if your target has training equivalent to your own, you each take a bullet. your target falls, dead or incapacitated. you deploy to base, exchange armor, and return. this is repeated across the battlefield by each soldier.

i know you're thinking "but semiautomatic weapons fire many shots!"

most shots miss.

Glad you have such faith in the US Military to be able to logistically manage all that... <_<

wackyteen posted...

In regards to the political climate, I think the GOP will turn in on itself. They've courted very unstable elements into the party and it could very well tear them apart, regardless of what judicial gains they make.

Even if they get the fascist regime they're gunning for, without pervasive strong leadership, it's as likely to tear itself apart when the leader dies as it is to be a strong presence.

Combine that with the ever increasing pressures on the American people (already) from a brutal fascist regime and its unlikely that it'd stick around for too long.

Not saying it wouldn't suck and that we should just let it happen, but it isn't all doom and gloom

It would totally depend on how the military responds to the regime imo

MrAndersonWb posted...

she wouldnt have nominated crazy handmaids tale lady or the other two weirdos for sure

this is true . She was selfish

She wasnt selfish, she was keeping order

I dont mean that in a good way, she was sticking to the script

VigorouslySwish posted...

Thanks to Biden, $773 BILLION is going into the military in 2023 https://www.stripes.com/theaters/us/2022-07-15/house-approves-bigger-defense-budget-6661733.html

The military can easily declare this country theirs if they want to, they dont need to follow political orders at this point

That happens all the time it's called a military coup

Tyranthraxus posted...

That happens all the time it's called a military coup

well I wouldnt say all the time, but yeah its how a lot of governments end up overthrown

now imagine that with the unbridled power of the US military

they could literally dominate the entire world if they go rogue

wackyteen posted...

Glad you have such faith in the US Military to be able to logistically manage all that... <_<

supply logistics are one of the things the US military does very well.

What is wrong with people lately?

Hey conservatives, isn't it funny how your party consistently ends up gleefully doing the exact things us crazy leftists warn about and you say we're crazy or hysterical for predicting?

A drag queen story hour supplies enough outrage for you to call this a clown world and vote for these people, but the GOP votes to kill human beings and none of you have a word to say about it.

I'm forced to reach the conclusion that each and every one of you support this shit because I don't see any outraged topics from you threatening second amendment solutions like I see when you guys notice a trans person on your TV or a politician somewhere proposes a 0.001% tax increase to feed starving orphans.

legendary_zell posted...

A drag queen story hour supplies enough outrage for you to call this a clown world and vote for these people, but the GOP votes to kill human beings and none of you have a word to say about it.

Because it's not their humans, that they care about, that they're killing.

It's selfishness embodied to its core.

It's be less insulting if the whole party also didn't claim to be selfless, religious nuts

wackyteen posted...

In a person to person battle, an AR-15 would still be effective, even against soldiers with body armor.

Now, bring in tanks and other armored vehicles and, yeah, it ain't doing shit

No shit

wackyteen posted...

Because it's not their humans, that they care about, that they're killing.

It's selfishness embodied to its core.

It's be less insulting if the whole party also didn't claim to be selfless, religious nuts

The part is simply concentrated and weaponized grievance and self centeredness. They think there's a very specific type of American and lifestyle that knows best and should be able to determine what everyone else is allowed to do, on pain of death. Meanwhile, they can essentially do whatever they want.

The law exists to bind but not protect women, minorities, LGBT people, immigrants etc, and it exists to protect but not bind men, conservative Christians, white people, and capital.

Is anyone scared about how the country would look after a second trump or a desantis term?

we went from abortion and gay marriage to no abortion and actively hunting down lgbtq from a legal standpoint in like, a couple months. Imagine how wide the hate net would expand

MrAndersonWb posted...

Is anyone scared about how the country would look after a second trump or a desantis term?

we went from abortion and gay marriage to no abortion and actively hunting down lgbtq from a legal standpoint in like, a couple months. Imagine how wide the hate net would expand

I might have to legit consider a move to Canada or elsewhere. I don't feel safe being a black man in this America.

RchHomieQuanChi posted...

Not saying this couldn't be a potential motive

I'm only echoing what Hawley said

Goldice posted...

I'm only echoing what Hawley said

Fair enough. I don't exactly disagree with the idea that that might be what they're doing

"We're sorry that you had to die, but that's the price you pay for us to have control over your body."

-_-

RchHomieQuanChi posted...

I might have to legit consider a move to Canada or elsewhere. I don't feel safe being a black man in this America.

Canada aint much better man lol

I looked into it, its basically the US but with universal healthcare

And then I learned Im not even allowed in the country because I got a bullshit DUI 20 years ago in my teens. They are EXTREMELY strict about DUIswhich honestly I respect

VigorouslySwish posted...

I looked into it, its basically the US but with universal healthcare

Not true

bsp77 posted...

Not true

It really is, its mostly all the same shit with politics. US sets a rule and then shortly afterwards Canada does the same, probably because of intimidation from the US

Imagine presiding over a country directly next to the US. Youre gonna obey. Well, unless your country has a fuck ton of extremely powerful drug cartels. Then youre stuck between a rock and a hard place lmao

bsp77 posted...

Not true

As an American who move to Canada in 06, it's blatantly untrue.
Even in Alberta (Canada's Texas) its miles above where I was before.
The culture, jobs, school, everything is better except real estate.

meestermj posted...

As an American who move to Canada in 06, it's blatantly untrue.
Even in Alberta (Canada's Texas) its miles above where I was before.
The culture, jobs, school, everything is better except real estate.

Ok, to be fair I havent been there, I just state what I do based on laws I see

VigorouslySwish posted...

Ok, to be fair I havent been there, I just state what I do based on laws I see

Gun laws are better.
Abortion laws are better.
Gender/race equality is better. (Not perfect, but better)

I am hard pressed to think of any examples where Canada took the lead from the US legally speaking.

Id bet a lot that Canada will follow suit with trying to stop abortion in the next 5-10 years. Hopefully Im wrong though

VigorouslySwish posted...

Id bet a lot that Canada will follow suit with trying to stop abortion in the next 5-10 years. Hopefully Im wrong though

If you think that then you have zero idea of the political climate of Canada, or its people.
Even Canadian Conservatives are outspoken about the Roe v Wade overturn.
You're talking out your ass.

meestermj posted...

If you think that then you have zero idea of the political climate of Canada, or its people.
Even Canadian Conservatives are outspoken about the Roe v Wade overturn.
You're talking out your ass.

I really wouldn't recommend complacency in the face of what the Right is becoming.

Like, the sky isn't falling but basing your hope on your right-wing not getting worse is a losing proposition these days.

meestermj posted...

If you think that then you have zero idea of the political climate of Canada, or its people.
Even Canadian Conservatives are outspoken about the Roe v Wade overturn.
You're talking out your ass.

The peoples opinion doesnt matter, just like the US. Most people here dont agree with it, its just the extremists and the media plays it up. Theyre gonna want more indentured servitude, just like the US.

DrizztLink posted...

I really wouldn't recommend complacency in the face of what the Right is becoming.

Like, the sky isn't falling but basing your hope on your right-wing not getting worse is a losing proposition these days.

It's not complacency to acknowledge that Canada (and a majority of its citizens) are liberal/ndp/independent.
And even the conservatives are outspoken against what the US is doing, while still being shitheads.

Canada will not ban or limit abortions in the next 10 years, and I would stake my life on that.

VigorouslySwish posted...

The peoples opinion doesnt matter, just like the US. Most people here dont agree with it, its just the extremists and the media plays it up. Theyre gonna want more indentured servitude, just like the US.

That is blatantly wrong. The Canadian electoral system is far better and more representative of the populace.

Where did this indentured servitude shit come from? Canada's minimum wage, time off, and work conditions laws leave the US in the dust.