Current Events > Now that the dust has settled... Dragon Ball Z Broly or Dragon Ball Super Broly?

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saspa
07/15/22 8:17:19 AM
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Which is best which is your favorite?

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Big_Nabendu
07/15/22 8:20:04 AM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/7/5/AAW5a5AADdHL.jpg

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Esrac
07/15/22 8:21:45 AM
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Movie or character?

Super, if only because the animation seems like some of the best DB has offered.
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superman_2000
07/15/22 8:21:52 AM
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Movie 8 Broly.

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The_Popo
07/15/22 8:25:50 AM
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Super

Id say its my favorite Dragon Ball movie

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party_animal07
07/15/22 8:27:51 AM
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Super because they got rid of that trash backstory.

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Sufferedphoneix
07/15/22 8:35:52 AM
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Original. He felt more like a threat. Super he just kept getting his ass beat. He was tanking it but wasn't doing much in return.

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AirFresh
07/15/22 8:43:14 AM
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Super is a better character but I like the fights in the original more.

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ElleRagu
07/15/22 8:45:47 AM
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dbz broly is legit a terrible character

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RchHomieQuanChi
07/15/22 8:49:19 AM
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Broly is a much better character in Super, so that

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VeggetaX
07/15/22 8:51:16 AM
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I don't like that they basically made Broly a good guy. He's not supposed to be a good guy. In fact, one of his core traits is once he's fully transformed into the LSSJ, he becomes completely self aware and accepts the entirety of being a monster hell bent on evil and destruction for his enjoyment.

In DBS, in Broly's fully LSSJ state he is still a raging no-sense hulk.

Also, I felt like they were downplaying the fact that Broly is the LSSJ. I felt they should have oppressively and directly let everyone(including the audience) know that the source of his power and craze was from being the Legendary SSJ. But at the end they played it off like Goku could achieve the same power. This power should exclusively stay with Broly.

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Touch
07/15/22 8:58:07 AM
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Whichever ones power was maximum

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Hayame_Zero
07/15/22 8:58:11 AM
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Super > Z

I never even liked Z Broly until Super. Mostly because the movies weren't very good

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--Zero-
07/15/22 8:58:29 AM
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Super by a mile. Z Broly was just a 1 track raging brute that seemed bad ass in the first appearance, but then was massacred in the sequels. Super made him even stronger and gave him a personality that leads to more content in the future. Plus the Super versions movie was so much better.

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Lordgold666
07/15/22 3:30:22 PM
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The_Popo posted...
Super

Id say its my favorite Dragon Ball movie


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Foppe
07/15/22 3:34:33 PM
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Z is a bigger threat, Super is a better character.

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A_Good_Boy
07/15/22 3:36:53 PM
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Super's is better.

They also lowkey set up the implication that Frieza is stronger than both Goku and Vegeta completely by accident. That was pretty funny.

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Prismsblade
07/15/22 3:41:30 PM
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party_animal07 posted...
Super because they got rid of that trash backstory.
That was movie 10. Hell if movie 8 was kept a stand alone, there wouldnt be any contest in this regard, lmao.

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Biofighter55
07/15/22 3:43:46 PM
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Movie 8 broly was legitimately terrifying threat and a good villain

after that he kinda just was crazy and his character was bad

super broly is a good character too

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sabin017
07/15/22 3:44:40 PM
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Super is the better movie
Z is the better Broly

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VeggetaX
07/15/22 3:47:16 PM
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So everyone is okay with new Broly being a good guy huh?

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ViewtifulJoe
07/15/22 3:48:51 PM
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Both are really lame. He's meant to be all action and carnage but he doesn't even do that right for me.
I will give it to the first movie because the depiction of Vegeta was really funny.

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A_Good_Boy
07/15/22 3:51:02 PM
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VeggetaX posted...
So everyone is okay with new Broly being a good guy huh?
His original motivation for being evil was stupid as shit, so this reworked version is definitely preferable.

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Prismsblade
07/15/22 3:51:16 PM
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The new broly is pretty bland and boring to be honest, more so then Goten. He hasn't spoken a full sentence of dialogue even in his own named movie. So idk people like him when he has no character to like.

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ThePrinceFish
07/15/22 3:52:28 PM
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Prismsblade posted...
The new broly is pretty bland and boring to be honest, more so then Goten. He hasn't spoken a full sentence of dialogue even in his own named movie. So idk people like him when he has no character to like.
It's not like "I break everything because I'm a bad dude and I like seeing people suffer" Broly was a deep well of characterization. People like him cuz his power is maximum tho

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VeggetaX
07/15/22 3:53:53 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
His original motivation for being evil was stupid as shit, so this reworked version is definitely preferable.
As the LSSJ, his motive were always evil and destruction. Goku driving him insane as a baby was just a push him to get to his form faster.

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FL81
07/15/22 5:07:22 PM
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Super Broly is considerably better written

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Sufferedphoneix
07/15/22 5:16:27 PM
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I prefer the original. Only saw his first movie though.

There wasn't enough emphasis he was the legendary super sayian in super imo. It's like they expected everyone who watched to already know.

Also the fight wasn't that good. Broly shoulda whipped Gogeta around a bit imo.

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Srk700
07/15/22 5:24:12 PM
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TFS Broly > Super Broly > Z Broly
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Irony
07/15/22 5:31:13 PM
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Super feels like an actual character

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Sufferedphoneix
07/15/22 5:37:16 PM
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Irony posted...
Super feels like an actual character

He does but having a character was never why people liked him.

I mean they could have made him as menacing as the first movie and still give him character. Woulda been a better movie.

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Prismsblade
07/15/22 8:51:40 PM
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ThePrinceFish posted...
It's not like "I break everything because I'm a bad dude and I like seeing people suffer" Broly was a deep well of characterization. People like him cuz his power is maximum tho
He wasn't meant to be, what antagonist in a DBZ was actually? And why are you singling Broly out in this regard.

He was a born monster through and through, thats it. Even then the movie itself did a great job at portraying in a legendary and mythical sense. Unlike super where he's just a guy who just a guy.

That and the movie as a whole has alot more depth then its given credit for. Like in the opening scene the old man in the baby ward immediately recognizes Goku potential based only on his cry. And that a infrants cry I heard in Japanese folklore is said to ward off evil. Which would kind of explain why broly was so bothered unlike the other children.....

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Lokison
07/15/22 9:10:30 PM
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Super Broly was better because it showed how he was able to grow. He wasnt just born with a ridiculous amount of power; he had more potential than others

In DBZ he just *IS* THE LSSJ.

In Super he achieves it. It is shown that No threat bothered him, he could always overcome it (Until Gogeta, which is magic BS).

Super showed that if he had the training, no one could ever stop him. Z just made him into a sociopathic powerhouse.

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Sufferedphoneix
07/15/22 9:23:58 PM
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Lokison posted...
Super Broly was better because it showed how he was able to grow. He wasnt just born with a ridiculous amount of power; he had more potential than others

In DBZ he just *IS* THE LSSJ.

In Super he achieves it. It is shown that No threat bothered him, he could always overcome it (Until Gogeta, which is magic BS).

Super showed that if he had the training, no one could ever stop him. Z just made him into a sociopathic powerhouse.

In z they had legends of a legendary super sayian one didn't become it. They where born it.

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I4NRulez
07/15/22 9:25:34 PM
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Biofighter55 posted...
Movie 8 broly was legitimately terrifying threat and a good villain

big LOLs. he was a shit villain

Super is a lot better

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Background_Guy
07/15/22 9:36:25 PM
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DBZ Broly
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Back_Stabbath
07/15/22 9:41:50 PM
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Its awesome seeing him (Super Hero spoilers) living on Beerus's world, bummer that they focused on another Goku vs Vegeta sparring match though. Yeah he is a dumb raging hulk in battle mode at the moment but I think he's gonna go through a training arc where he can control it like Kale.

DB is so fucking weird at the moment. You have the animated timeline where shit is tolerable at least and then the manga timeline which fucking sucks. Dunno what they are gonna do when the anime starts again but I really hope they skip this shitty Granola arc and make the Moro one longer/better.

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Lokison
07/15/22 9:46:14 PM
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Sufferedphoneix posted...
In z they had legends of a legendary super sayian one didn't become it. They where born it.
True, but being born " A sociopath of utter destruction" and being born "One with unmatched potential" could both be used to describe such a being. Super made it the better choice.

Neither was Born Super Saiyan. One became it because of another crying babies shenanigans, one became it through genetic potential.

I like Super more.

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Sufferedphoneix
07/16/22 1:26:44 AM
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Lokison posted...
True, but being born " A sociopath of utter destruction" and being born "One with unmatched potential" could both be used to describe such a being. Super made it the better choice.

Neither was Born Super Saiyan. One became it because of another crying babies shenanigans, one became it through genetic potential.

I like Super more.

Eh I just feel like every hero is fine with having one mindless powerhouse villain. It's about the threat they pose not the story in those situations.

I was cool with him having character in his base form. What I didn't like was he didn't feel like the same level of threat. He'd be getting beat up he'd learn beat them a little they'd power up and that went back and forth. I feel he shoulda been wiping the floor with Gogeta. Then they come up with a strategy or a desperation attack to win. But no it was more he was just a damage sponge at that point.

Also as said I wish there had been more emphasis on he was THE legendary super Sayain.

Story wise yeah I liked super better. But broly seemed more of a threat in z.

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Solo_Wing
07/16/22 1:33:12 AM
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Super Broly is the only db media worth watching imo. Every other is either too low budget or barely any fight scenes at all

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Murphiroth
07/16/22 1:45:04 AM
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Super is way better.

Original is garbage. "He was just born a monster/evil" is such trash.
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Sufferedphoneix
07/16/22 1:47:42 AM
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Murphiroth posted...
Super is way better.

Original is garbage. "He was just born a monster/evil" is such trash.

I don't recall it being he was born evil..he was seemed mentally stunted and his memory of kakorot crying was a trigger for him

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Murphiroth
07/16/22 1:58:46 AM
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Sufferedphoneix posted...
I don't recall it being he was born evil..he was seemed mentally stunted and his memory of kakorot crying was a trigger for him

Was referring to this.

Prismsblade posted...


He was a born monster through and through, thats it.

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Sufferedphoneix
07/16/22 12:54:24 PM
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Murphiroth posted...
Was referring to this.

Did they ever explain that he was though? It's probably more he was raised on a planet with no civilization. I'm not arguing with you persay just the idea he was born evil or a monster.

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KyloRent
07/16/22 1:01:17 PM
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Murphiroth posted...
Was referring to this.
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saspa
07/18/22 10:05:20 AM
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Srk700 posted...
TFS Broly > Super Broly > Z Broly

They really should do a TFS of the new Broly movie too

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Strider102
07/18/22 10:18:55 AM
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I will always prefer this Broly.

https://youtu.be/bzTmxHb25Pc

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Link_of_time
07/18/22 10:56:41 AM
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Z, super is just a generic misunderstood villain designed so they can add to their roster.
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saspa
07/20/22 9:25:56 AM
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Also consider the fact that Z Broly was initially non-canon, while Super Broly became canonized

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