Current Events > Do you believe that overpopulation of the world is a problem?

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GranTurismo
07/12/22 4:36:05 PM
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do you believe that it is? in related news, india is set to overtake china next yr as the most populous nation in the world





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TheUmbersun
07/12/22 4:38:02 PM
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It will be
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MedeaLysistrata
07/12/22 4:39:45 PM
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There are some countries with high pop density where it is a problem

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FL81
07/12/22 5:04:36 PM
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No, and Malthus was wrong

all signs point to population growth flattening out as societies advance technologically

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GranTurismo
07/12/22 5:05:17 PM
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FL81 posted...
No, and Malthus was wrong

all signs point to population growth flattening out as societies advance technologically
who is malthus? never heard of him. Well, do you think the u.s. is overpopulated?
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Nerevar791
07/12/22 5:06:44 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/80091793

Nerevar791 posted...
This isn't a matter of opinion. There is, factually, no "population problem" on either side of the spectrum



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Nemu
07/12/22 5:07:14 PM
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The population itself, no. What it takes to sustain that population, yes.
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UnholyMudcrab
07/12/22 5:07:15 PM
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It is not.

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CADE_FOSTER
07/12/22 5:07:36 PM
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a planet that was meant to hold max 2 billion has damn near 7 or 8 yeah
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EmbraceOfDeath
07/12/22 5:07:47 PM
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Yes. Humans shouldn't be using anywhere near as much space and resources as we do in the first place.

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Nerevar791
07/12/22 5:07:56 PM
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CADE_FOSTER posted...
a planet that was meant to hold max 2 billion has damn near 7 or 8 yeah
This is flagrant bullshit on many levels

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Nukazie
07/12/22 5:09:28 PM
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more people means more demand and we seem to be having so much supply problems these days so yeah

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Pitlord_Special
07/12/22 5:09:51 PM
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Infinite growth in a finite space is totally possible

Just gotta capitalism harder.

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MedeaLysistrata
07/12/22 5:10:27 PM
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Nerevar791 posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/80091793
You should have a look at Bangladesh

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CADE_FOSTER
07/12/22 5:12:59 PM
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1.5 to 2 billion people
The optimum population of Earth enough to guarantee the minimal physical ingredients of a decent life to everyone was 1.5 to 2 billion people rather than the 7 billion who are alive today or the 9 billion expected in 2050, said Ehrlich in an interview with the Guardian.
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Giblet_Enjoyer
07/12/22 5:17:53 PM
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CADE_FOSTER posted...
1.5 to 2 billion people
The optimum population of Earth enough to guarantee the minimal physical ingredients of a decent life to everyone was 1.5 to 2 billion people rather than the 7 billion who are alive today or the 9 billion expected in 2050, said Ehrlich in an interview with the Guardian.
It's easy to ignore this fact when you're a privileged first-worlder whose existence rests on the backs of the ~7 billion underclass.

Pitlord_Special posted...
Infinite growth in a finite space is totally possible

Just gotta capitalism harder.


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Nerevar791
07/12/22 5:18:11 PM
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CADE_FOSTER posted...
1.5 to 2 billion people
The optimum population of Earth enough to guarantee the minimal physical ingredients of a decent life to everyone was 1.5 to 2 billion people rather than the 7 billion who are alive today or the 9 billion expected in 2050, said Ehrlich in an interview with the Guardian.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_R._Ehrlich#Reception

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Nerevar791
07/12/22 5:19:26 PM
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Giblet_Enjoyer posted...
It's easy to ignore this fact when you're a privileged first-worlder whose existence rests on the backs of the ~7 billion underclass.
Another group of critics, generally of the political left, argues that Ehrlich emphasizes overpopulation too much as a problem in itself instead of distribution of resources.[19]Barry Commoner argued that Ehrlich emphasized overpopulation too much as the source of environmental problems, and that his proposed solutions were politically unacceptable because of the coercion that they implied, and because they would cost poor people disproportionately. He argued that technological, and above all social development would result in a natural decrease of both population growth and environmental damage.[35] Ehrlich denies any type of racism, and has argued that if his policy ideas were implemented properly they would not be repressive.

You're not arguing for the side you think you're arguing for

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L_Ratio_Cope
07/12/22 5:19:54 PM
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FL81 posted...
No, and Malthus was wrong

all signs point to population growth flattening out as societies advance technologically
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CADE_FOSTER
07/12/22 5:20:41 PM
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who is this random noob
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UnholyMudcrab
07/12/22 5:21:40 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
You should have a look at Bangladesh
If the entire world had the population density of Bangladesh, it would have something north of 150 billion people.

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Nerevar791
07/12/22 5:22:34 PM
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https://www.pop.org/overpopulation-myth/

UnholyMudcrab posted...
If the entire world had the population density of Bangladesh, it would have something north of 150 billion people.
This is the most relevant point: A certain area might have a high population relative to available resources and existing infrastructure, but the Earth in general is far, far from that.

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ClockworkHare
07/12/22 5:26:00 PM
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Over population in CERTAIN PARTS of the world, maybe. Particularly in underdeveloped impoverish areas where churning out kids to help with domestic labor is considered a norm (either for status or necessity), community competition is high, and replaceable resources are constantly hanging on by a thread.

Every region of the world overpopulated? Uh no...

Post # 3 actually hit the nail on the head.

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Damn_Underscore
07/12/22 5:28:13 PM
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Honestly I don't know, but I'm going to say no. There is more of a lack of development problem. Look at the urbanization map of the USA

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/5/1/AAMkx7AADcfv.jpg

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MedeaLysistrata
07/12/22 5:28:14 PM
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Nerevar791 posted...
https://www.pop.org/overpopulation-myth/

This is the most relevant point: A certain area might have a high population relative to available resources and existing infrastructure, but the Earth in general is far, far from that.
So you're saying there are population problems but they're not global.

We also live in a world where some people don't have the same freedom of movement you and I are used to. So if you are born into a place with a very low or high density you might have some barriers. That sounds like a potential problem to me.

Edit: I'm responding to your claim there are NO population problems, not that overpopulation is a problem.

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rexcrk
07/12/22 5:29:04 PM
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Anyone who says no has never worked retail or service. Especially around the holidays.

You blessed bastards.


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Nerevar791
07/12/22 5:29:40 PM
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Funny Cade and giblet ran off

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Naysaspace
07/12/22 5:31:00 PM
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in some areas it really is.

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Giblet_Enjoyer
07/12/22 5:35:31 PM
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Nerevar791 posted...
Another group of critics, generally of the political left, argues that Ehrlich emphasizes overpopulation too much as a problem in itself instead of distribution of resources.[19]Barry Commoner argued that Ehrlich emphasized overpopulation too much as the source of environmental problems, and that his proposed solutions were politically unacceptable because of the coercion that they implied, and because they would cost poor people disproportionately. He argued that technological, and above all social development would result in a natural decrease of both population growth and environmental damage.[35] Ehrlich denies any type of racism, and has argued that if his policy ideas were implemented properly they would not be repressive.

You're not arguing for the side you think you're arguing for
Of course the left focuses on distribution, that's their entire schtick. I've addressed that argument before -- the abundance we have is because of the profit motive. You do away with one, you do away with both. Idk what mechanism leftists expect to fill that hole that capitalism leaves, but it's never born out.

Trying to make him out to be a racist or whatever is just a diversion from the actual point.

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Blue_Thunder
07/12/22 5:35:40 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
There are some countries with high pop density where it is a problem

This. It is not a problem as a whole.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsBT5EQt348

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LeoRavus
07/12/22 5:44:52 PM
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Around here more and more farmland is being turned into housing developments. If I fell asleep in 2002 and woke up today, I wouldn't recognize the place. Human overpopulation in other parts of the world is in fact a global problem.

I mean sure we can wait until it's too late to think there's a problem like we do with everything else.

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Nerevar791
07/12/22 5:45:44 PM
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LeoRavus posted...
Around here more and more farmland is being turned into housing developments. If I fell asleep in 2002 and woke up today, I wouldn't recognize the place. Human overpopulation in other parts of the world is in fact a global problem.

I mean sure we can wait until it's too late to think there's a problem like we do with everything else.
I'm glad we have your opinion, even if actual experts explicitly contradict it

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RchHomieQuanChi
07/12/22 5:46:23 PM
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No.

The issue has always been a select few hoarding the world's resources for themselves

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apocalyptic_4
07/12/22 5:49:38 PM
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Nope.

If you really believe overpopulation is an issue you've been successfully duped.

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Lost_All_Senses
07/12/22 5:50:12 PM
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It wouldn't be a problem if people kept each other in mind while living their lives. But everyone is trying to guide us into doing the opposite of that so that they can justify their own lifestyles

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RchHomieQuanChi
07/12/22 5:50:19 PM
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Giblet_Enjoyer posted...
Of course the left focuses on distribution, that's their entire schtick. I've addressed that argument before -- the abundance we have is because of the profit motive. You do away with one, you do away with both. Idk what mechanism leftists expect to fill that hole that capitalism leaves, but it's never born out.

Trying to make him out to be a racist or whatever is just a diversion from the actual point.

Maybe I'm misreading this, but are you implying capitalism is the only system that rewards people for work?

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Smackems
07/12/22 5:50:50 PM
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Hell I don't know

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_HayleyWilliams
07/12/22 5:51:11 PM
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Overpopulation is a capitalist myth

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LeoRavus
07/12/22 5:51:22 PM
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Nerevar791 posted...
I'm glad we have your opinion, even if actual experts explicitly contradict it

"Actual experts" with their heads buried in the sand paid off by or part of corporations who want to keep expanding and trashing the place.

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Nerevar791
07/12/22 5:51:48 PM
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LeoRavus posted...
"Actual experts" with their heads buried in the sand paid off by or part of corporations who want to keep expanding and trashing the place.
lmfao

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RchHomieQuanChi
07/12/22 5:52:57 PM
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LeoRavus posted...
"Actual experts" with their heads buried in the sand paid off by or part of corporations who want to keep expanding and trashing the place.

Dude you are straight-up talking out of your ass lmao

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Lost_All_Senses
07/12/22 6:15:21 PM
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It's stupid to blindly trust experts and it's also stupid to write off everything they say just because some of them are where they're at for the wrong reasons. You should always add critical thinking to whatever they're saying.

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Smackems
07/12/22 6:17:35 PM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
It's stupid to blindly trust experts and it's also stupid to write off everything they say just because some of them are where they're at for the wrong reasons. You should always add critical thinking to whatever they're saying.
No. Always believe what the news says expert or no

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_HayleyWilliams
07/12/22 6:18:22 PM
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LeoRavus posted...
"Actual experts" with their heads buried in the sand paid off by or part of corporations who want to keep expanding and trashing the place.
I'm pretty sure corporations would benefit from pushing the idea of overpopulation.

They know it's not true, but they could use it to justify paying workers poorly or overcharging for resources. It gives them more excuses for control.

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Octans
07/12/22 6:33:18 PM
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I'm really curious what people's standards are when they say no. I'd personally say humans became overpopulated when we caused the first extinction of a species. It's regrettable that we ever moved out of Africa, basically. Obviously, IMO, and I get that my views are extreme.

And no, I don't support the culling of a now existing population, but I am secure enough to say that I personally, as well as none of my ancestors should have existed. The world would be much better.

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crayola555
07/12/22 6:36:18 PM
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The entire population of the world can fit inside Texas

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Lost_All_Senses
07/12/22 6:37:02 PM
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Smackems posted...
No. Always believe what the news says expert or no

Lol :3. If there's one thing I learned from this pandemic, it's that we're on our own to figure most it out. Cause literally everyone is either fumbling the ball or on some underhanded shit. It's like we were picking a team of support at the beginning of this and fucked around and picked all the lowest stat having characters. Like we wanted to do a self implemented challenge run.

"What would happen if we picked all the worst people to lead our team?... let's run it"

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dioxxys
07/12/22 6:37:45 PM
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#Thanosdidnothingwrong

this is a joke mods
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TheMikh
07/12/22 6:40:43 PM
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there's nothing wrong with population growth as long as it's sustainable (e.g., without debt or large scale resource redistribution)

the matrix of states, bureaucracies, corporations "managing" these populations are not - unhealthy feedback loops all around

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