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MarshallStack
07/12/22 6:40:55 AM
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its crazy how much better it is

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Dragon
07/12/22 6:43:26 AM
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Better characters
Better writing

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Glob
07/12/22 6:44:28 AM
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At the time, I didn't reallt appreciate 9 because of how much it rail-roaded you in terms of characters and strategies.

These days, I have a much greater appreciation for the fact that the characters all play differently and that it's a much better story than 7.
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Shotgunnova
07/12/22 6:47:19 AM
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It's better because you deliver mail in a wartorn, topsy-turvy world. Really, it's the proto-Death Stranding.

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The_Popo
07/12/22 6:48:22 AM
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Quina adds character depth previously unseen in video game history

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Kim_Seong-a
07/12/22 6:56:15 AM
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I like how inter-woven the world feels, at least on the main continent. It's like there's a larger network of interaction between the different towns and cultures in addition to their personal identity.

And like, when you get to a new town, the previous towns rarely stop being relevant, in terms of story or world building. It's very...idk..."alive"-feeling lol

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supaiku
07/12/22 7:07:29 AM
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The_Popo posted...
Quina adds character depth previously unseen in video game history

Quina would get so much shit for being woke or SJW propaganda if it came out today.
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BurmesePenguin
07/12/22 7:15:32 AM
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Because no cloud or squall hinders it.
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Tenaku
07/12/22 7:55:35 AM
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supaiku posted...
Quina would get so much shit for being woke or SJW propaganda if it came out today.

How so?
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pogo_rabid
07/12/22 7:56:32 AM
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Yeah but here's the thing.

FFXIV is better than both.

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Trumble
07/12/22 7:59:40 AM
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Because it doesn't have Cait Sith.

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MarshallStack
07/12/22 8:09:05 AM
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pogo_rabid posted...
Yeah but here's the thing.

FFXIV is better than both.

no

even PS2 Musashi is better than that shit

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KnightofShikari
07/12/22 8:12:05 AM
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Tenaku posted...
How so?
quina's from a genderless race

only real bad thing is that amarant feels tacked on. but it does have the best black mage ever, plus some dang nice cutscenes

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Guns_of_Verdun
07/12/22 8:12:24 AM
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Better likable characters who have some depth and relatability
Better music
More of a fantastical setting. FF7 was all guns and cars.
There's great world building. The towns are full of history and stautes and plaques and NPCs talk about shit that has nothing to do with the main plot. Compare to FF7 where you travel the world to find the deep dark secrets of the ancients and then 2 seconds later random dudes in bars are talking about the ancients.

I don't think there are many people who can see much of Tifa, Cloud or Barrett in themselves. But I think we all have a little Vivi, Steiner and Zidane in us whether we want to admit it or not. Everyone is so flawed.

Better graphics, people don't look like lego bricks and the art style is fantastic, making it still hold up today while a ton of PS1 games look like ass.

And just all round better writing. FFIX has some surpisingly deep themes about family, existential dread, the ultimate inescapable reality of death, the concept of home and nilism and then has a death count to rival a Warhammer 40k story.

Yet at the same time it's presented beautifully as a childrens story. That takes talent.

Sepiroth wants to blow up the planet so wibbily wobbly energy comes into him and makes him a god because he's made with bits of alien in him or something. Just doesn't really compare once you get past the cool visuals.

FFIX manages to be a pretty mature story in an immature medium without needing blood, sex, drugs or grit... Well okay there's a little bit of blood but hardly any

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teep_
07/12/22 8:14:01 AM
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It's on sale on PSN

Unfortunately, I only have 10 PSN Store credit on my account and it costs 10,50

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DeadBankerDream
07/12/22 8:18:19 AM
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teep_ posted...
It's on sale on PSN

Unfortunately, I only have 10 on my account and it costs 10,50
PS1 version is better.

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teep_
07/12/22 8:21:05 AM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
PS1 version is better.
I don't have a PS1 though, just a PS4 (and a PC)

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Guns_of_Verdun
07/12/22 8:21:14 AM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
PS1 version is better.
I doubt it.


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DeadBankerDream
07/12/22 8:23:24 AM
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teep_ posted...
I don't have a PS1 though, just a PS4 (and a PC)
Play the PS1 version on PC.

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pogo_rabid
07/12/22 8:35:46 AM
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MarshallStack posted...
no

even PS2 Musashi is better than that shit
lol this guy doesn't have a clue

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teep_
07/12/22 8:40:05 AM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
Play the PS1 version on PC.
maybe

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supaiku
07/12/22 10:35:24 AM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
PS1 version is better.

No its not.
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DeadBankerDream
07/12/22 10:48:33 AM
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supaiku posted...
No its not.
No u

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pauIie
07/12/22 10:53:27 AM
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teep_ posted...
maybe
with the graphics and beatrix mods, i can't play it any other way now

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masterpug53
07/12/22 11:07:51 AM
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I won't say that 9 is better than 7, but I will heap praise on it for doing something better than any other game in the series, which is the detail and cohesion of its artstyle and world design. Every setpiece and pre-rendered background is packed with intricacy, and with the arguable exception of the two subway worms, every enemy has a unique design, no palette-swapping in sight.

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EyeWontBeFooled
07/12/22 11:09:10 AM
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It is sad that this was their last shot at a 'classic' Final Fantasy

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scar_the_1
07/12/22 11:31:58 AM
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I feel like both 8 and 9 start off kinda strong but then really spiral. 8 moreso than 9 with the whole orphanage thing, but 9 around when Eiko and Amaranth get introduced (and then you go to space?)... I dunno they lose a little bit in those instances. By comparison 7 kinda maintains the same vibe throughout. But yeah, there are moments in 9 that are incredible.

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Wedge_Antilles
07/12/22 11:35:34 AM
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pogo_rabid posted...
Yeah but here's the thing.

FFXIV is better than both.

FFIX has been my second favourite game of all time since it came out.

But god damn if FFXIV isn't trying really hard to claim that spot.

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Guns_of_Verdun
07/12/22 12:14:24 PM
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scar_the_1 posted...
I feel like both 8 and 9 start off kinda strong but then really spiral. 8 moreso than 9 with the whole orphanage thing, but 9 around when Eiko and Amaranth get introduced (and then you go to space?)... I dunno they lose a little bit in those instances. By comparison 7 kinda maintains the same vibe throughout. But yeah, there are moments in 9 that are incredible.
I disagree

While 9does decline once you go to Terra, 7 also declines after Sepiroth buys aeris a lovely cake

the game slows down after that and never picks up

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Jiek_Fafn
07/12/22 12:16:40 PM
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[Turns back to everyone]
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BignutzisBack
07/12/22 12:35:39 PM
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It's not

Still a top 4 FF game


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DeadBankerDream
07/12/22 12:46:09 PM
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BignutzisBack posted...
It's not

Still a top 4 FF game
But FF7 is not a top 4 FF game, so obviously 9 is better.

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Ivany2008
07/12/22 12:50:26 PM
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I think the only thing that 9 does worse than 7 is the Limit Break system, or in 9s case "Trance". That and the final boss, but that's more of a typical Square thing anyways. God I wish Square-Enix would go back to making Turn-Based rpgs again... I loved Octopath Traveler despite its issues.
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supaiku
07/12/22 2:02:10 PM
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Ivany2008 posted...
I think the only thing that 9 does worse than 7 is the Limit Break system, or in 9s case "Trance". That and the final boss, but that's more of a typical Square thing anyways. God I wish Square-Enix would go back to making Turn-Based rpgs again... I loved Octopath Traveler despite its issues.

Dragon Quest XI is turn based.

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Ivany2008
07/12/22 3:38:47 PM
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supaiku posted...
Dragon Quest XI is turn based.

Don't get me started on that game... I got it on release and it was god awful. The music was terrible midi because the asshole composer kept the proper version for himself until the rerelease (using it in his concerts), there was barely any new music to begin with, and most of the monsters are either copied or skins of past games. They only really put effort into the heroes and bosses, and that's it. The story was alright, but definitely not my favorite.

But that's just me being cranky lol.

I really hope that Dragon Quest 12 is a full redo of the series. Now that the composer is gone, I expect big things from the next game in the series.
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ChocoboMogALT
07/12/22 3:55:07 PM
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FFVII has better pacing, overall music, and minigames.

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Guns_of_Verdun
07/12/22 3:59:00 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Fight me IRL

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DipDipDiver
07/12/22 3:59:53 PM
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It makes sense when you consider that FF IX was supposed to be a return to form after the more technology-centric worlds of 7 and 8
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garan
07/12/22 4:35:56 PM
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Conflict posted...
It's not. It is unquestionably the most overrated FF though

This take I especially don't get. 9 has a boring ass OST


Agreed so much.
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Smackems
07/12/22 4:36:37 PM
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9 is way too slow

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MarshallStack
07/13/22 1:11:46 AM
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this candyass would fuck aerasss corpse while cloud filmed it if given the chance

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MarshallStack
07/13/22 1:18:51 AM
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garan posted...
Agreed so much.

this topic was doing so well

then the Sephiroth please sit on my face people showed up

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Suikoden2
07/13/22 1:24:02 AM
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Only played IX once back in 2002. Should really give it another go

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Kim_Seong-a
07/13/22 1:25:54 AM
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Also worth noting that in VII, Hojo cucks Vincent

I don't think any part of IX falls that low >_>

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Ivany2008
07/13/22 1:42:57 AM
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Can't disagree more on the OST for 9. I loved it, Rose of May is just incredible. I could argue there are certain story points that make no sense, but its still pretty good overall.
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Naysaspace
07/13/22 1:51:40 AM
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its worse than ff7 actually

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