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dameon_reaper posted...

I don't know where I read this but there was even some version where Lucifer was jealous of Adam and God told him to bend to Adam and Lucifer refused.

I've heard that

imagine that story with all the angels just being loyal to god until eternity, no story would be worth telling

or imagine the omnipotent and benevolent god making punishments in hell instead of somebody else, who would people cling to and worship?

Who says he didn't? Lucifer doesn't want his forgiveness

Sariana21 posted...

When I was in college, I took a class on John Milton and I wrote my final paper on Lucifer/Satan and the trilogy. My thesis was something like G-ds plan was for Lucifer to be the third member of the Trinity but Lucifer was too jealous of The Son to accept that role. His rebellion was to challenge The Sons (perceived?) more important role in The Fathers eyes. Lucifer was never going to accept a role he considered subservient to The Son, so he chose to reign in Hell rather than serve in Heaven.

His position was filled by the Holy Ghost, which always seemed random to me so I liked Miltons take on the situation. (Or at least my interpretation of Miltons take, which of course was not Miltons original idea but was my exposure to it.)

How does one reign in hell?

LeoRavus posted...

Why? Did God pull a Medusa on him and make him a monster or did he just send him down to earth?

Because he is described as a dragon

The idea of what he looks like being a hot dude comes from people who never read the source material

The other angels are more like stones with energy on top or eyes with wings

Nukazie posted...

imagine that story with all the angels just being loyal to god until eternity, no story would be worth telling

or imagine the omnipotent and benevolent god making punishments in hell instead of somebody else, who would people cling to and worship?

It's not like Christians haven't spent millennia seeking to answer why God would make beings who would sin, only to condemn them for all eternity for doing as they were made to do.
A lot of them just kind of come down on eternity not being literal, but just a long time. I remember an Apocryphal book has Jesus showing Peter around Heaven, and Peter looks down and sees the lost souls suffering in Hell, and asks why it is just that they must suffer eternally for temporal mistakes, and Jesus responds something to the effect that all it takes for them to be saved is for one of the elect to take pity upon them and ask that very question.

Basically, anyone who isn't evil believes Hell is eternal. Only God and His realm are, is the general argument.