Current Events > Man, why don't movies like Starship Troopers and Robocop get made anymore?

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Classic films

Specifically referring to all the satire commercials and stuff throughout.

https://youtu.be/6UPniOAMx94

https://youtu.be/EKHme9MvMx0

"Service guarantees citizenship!"

Join the military to be able to vote! Future fascist America!

Same director right? Whatever did happen to him??

I like how both movies have coop same sex locker rooms and showers too

Paul Verhoeven lost his touch, I guess?

I still hold to the belief that the humans are the bad guys in Starship Troopers.

DrizztLink posted...

I still hold to the belief that the humans are the bad guys in Starship Troopers.

It's implied that Germany won the war

MarcoRubio posted...

It's implied that Germany won the war

...that I have not heard, please elaborate.

DrizztLink posted...

...that I have not heard, please elaborate.

....everyone is dressed like a Nazi and all the heroes are blond hair blue eye white people

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/1/4/AAZdM4AADY36.jpg

Because those movies already got made. If someone made Robocop today, people would watch it and be like "Hey! That's Robocop!"

Cuz people would miss the actual point of them like they did when those were actually released. Cut out the middleman and just keep the explosions and shoot shots.

MarcoRubio posted...

....everyone is dressed like a Nazi and all the heroes are blond hair blue eye white people

That and the heavy handed military-ness of it all. I mean, getting more rights because you served? Yeah.

MarcoRubio posted...

....everyone is dressed like a Nazi and all the heroes are blond hair blue eye white people

Well, yeah, I thought you meant like in-universe implications.

Satirical movies still get made. They're just not so explosively violent and that's likely a result of studios getting more and more risk averse - pushing for internationally friendly, PG-13 action movies over the 80s style "hard R" movies with enough squibs to fill an Olympic swimming pool.

Didn't the movie Don't Look Up have similar vibe? Not really an action movie, but like any time it cut to social media stuff is the modern equivalent of parody commercials.

DrizztLink posted...

Well, yeah, I thought you meant like in-universe implications.

In Starship Troopers, society collapsed following a war in the 80s between the "unlimited democracies" that make up a Russo-Euro-American Alliance and the super commies in China. The governments of the world collapse and veterans of the war seize control in the anarchism that follows.

DrizztLink posted...

Well, yeah, I thought you meant like in-universe implications.

Oh they are in there

MarcoRubio posted...

Oh they are in there

And that is what I'm asking about.

Like, I'm not trying to pull some sort of gotcha, I'm legitimately curious.

ThePrinceFish posted...

In Starship Troopers, society collapsed following a war in the 80s between the "unlimited democracies" that make up a Russo-Euro-American Alliance and the super commies in China. The governments of the world collapse and veterans of the war seize control in the anarchism that follows.

Like that seems to indicate something else.

Paul Verhoeven literally released a movie just last year that had the Vatican screaming at him.

DrizztLink posted...

Like that seems to indicate something else.

Paul Verhoeven didn't read, nor understand, the book and just went his own direction. Not to say that what he did didn't work, because it definitely does, he just missed the book completely

MarcoRubio posted...

Paul Verhoeven didn't read, nor understand, the book and just went his own direction. Not to say that what he did didn't work, because it definitely does, he just missed the book completely

I read the book but it's been a while, I know it's Heinlein scare-mongering about nuclear war (on the side of more nukes).

So that's from the book and not the movie?

DrizztLink posted...

I still hold to the belief that the humans are the bad guys in Starship Troopers.

No, sir. The only good bug is a dead bug!

I'm doing my part.

DrizztLink posted...

I read the book but it's been a while, I know it's Heinlein scare-mongering about nuclear war (on the side of more nukes).

So that's from the book and not the movie?

The book lacks anything about Nazis at all. Verhoeven used Nazi uniform imagery in the movie because he's a hack who didn't read the book. But there is still nothing in the movie to indicate the Nazis won WWII. No reason to think the backstory was changed from the book just because Juan Rico is white now.

Upon rewatching starship troopers recently, I too got this feeling that the bugs are kind of being targeted by humanity unfairly. With the endless propaganda in the service commercials, and how humans incessantly invade bug planets.

ThePrinceFish posted...

Verhoeven used Nazi uniform imagery in the movie because he's a hack who didn't read the book.

The movie is better than the book.

DrizztLink posted...

The movie is better than the book.

It's very much not but the movie is very fun in its own way.

Paul Verhoeven has a preoccupation with fascism. Robocop is about the fascist themes he saw in superhero/action cinema - as well as being about capitalism's hold on the US.

Either way, both films are damn good movies.

DipDipDiver posted...

Because those movies already got made. If someone made Robocop today, people would watch it and be like "Hey! That's Robocop!"

damn you, i came in here to say exactly that

The movie had nothing to do with the book originally. One of the actors had just read the book and asked if the script was based on it.
So they read it, saw that it had some in common and decided to buy the rights to it and make some small changes.
There is an 80s anime OAV that is a much closer adaption of the book.
And the marine actors in Aliens were forced to read the book so they could get into their roles.