Current Events > Reminder to stop calling the anti-choice side "pro-life"

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TheGoldenEel
06/26/22 2:00:37 PM
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They are not pro-life; continuing to call them that is inaccurate, and allows them to continue feeling they have the moral high ground

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RedRanger
06/26/22 2:02:22 PM
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Seems keeping unborn children from dying would be a literal definition of pro life.

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DoctorPiranha3
06/26/22 2:02:50 PM
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Pro birth/forced birth is better
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bsp77
06/26/22 2:03:29 PM
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Anti-choice

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_HayleyWilliams
06/26/22 2:04:01 PM
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"Anti-choice" has always been the most accurate term. This is a debate on choice, even if you falsely believe that abortion is murder.

"Pro-life" implies that the other side wants everyone to get an abortion.

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g0ldie
06/26/22 2:05:38 PM
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anti-choice, fascists, pieces of shit

three groups where there are some obvious overlap

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Solar_Crimson
06/26/22 2:05:53 PM
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RedRanger posted...
Seems keeping unborn children from dying would be a literal definition of pro life.
Except they are against social welfare programs that help the children survive after they're born.

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Heineken14
06/26/22 2:06:10 PM
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Forced birth.

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_HayleyWilliams
06/26/22 2:06:28 PM
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RedRanger posted...
Seems keeping unborn children from dying would be a literal definition of pro life.
I honestly believe that pro-choice is the pro-life stance if you view life on more terms than "maximizing the amount of humans currently breathing".

Pro-lifers don't even care about life once it is born.

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ellis123
06/26/22 2:06:46 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
Except they are against social welfare programs that help the children survive after they're born.
"Pro-death after birth."

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a-c-a-b
06/26/22 2:08:20 PM
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RedRanger posted...
Seems keeping unborn children from dying would be a literal definition of pro life.
But letting children get shot at school or blown apart by bombs in other parts of the world is just fine and dandy.

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g0ldie
06/26/22 2:08:29 PM
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RedRanger posted...
Seems keeping unborn children from dying would be a literal definition of pro life.
making it illegal for people to have relatively safe procedures done, to the point many will die, is definitely not being pro life.

taking away people's autonomy is definitely not being pro life.

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SSJPurple
06/26/22 2:08:49 PM
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Some women get pregnancy complications that can kill them Id they dont abort.

So these states trying to put a total ban on abortionsyoure complicit in these womens deaths. They are not pro-life.

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-BrokenSpiral-
06/26/22 2:10:43 PM
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This topic is proof that pro-life and pro-choice supporters are equally brainwashed.
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_HayleyWilliams
06/26/22 2:11:42 PM
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-BrokenSpiral- posted...
This topic is proof that pro-life and pro-choice supporters are equally brainwashed.
You are free to present your rational middle ground between having a right and not having it.

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Bigbot84
06/26/22 2:13:20 PM
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g0ldie posted...
anti-choice, fascists, pieces of shit

three groups where there are some obvious overlap

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g0ldie
06/26/22 2:14:41 PM
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-BrokenSpiral- posted...
This topic is proof that pro-life and pro-choice supporters are equally brainwashed.
the whole "enlightened centrist" thing only works as a meme, and is dumb as shit when practiced in reality

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Tyranthraxus
06/26/22 2:15:50 PM
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https://youtu.be/SgjGwOByays

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gigageek1500
06/26/22 2:18:30 PM
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As neutral an authority as the AP style guide has for decades recognized "pro-life" as an inaccurate term of propaganda not to be used in serious reporting without qualification.

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MattcheteGuy
06/26/22 2:25:50 PM
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-BrokenSpiral- posted...
This topic is proof that pro-life and pro-choice supporters are equally brainwashed.

bOtH SiDeS

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ellis123
06/26/22 2:28:29 PM
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MattcheteGuy posted...
bOtH SiDeS
Both sides are equally valid: pro-life and pro-death.

It just happens that the centrist take of pro-choice makes sense to a bit more people.

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TheGoldenEel
06/26/22 2:34:26 PM
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RedRanger posted...
Seems keeping unborn children from dying would be a literal definition of pro life.
Seems not wanting women to have the choice between dying of pregnancy complications or having an abortion and living is not a pro-life stance at all

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TheGoldenEel
06/27/22 11:58:04 AM
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Daily reminder

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IfGodCouldDie
06/27/22 12:00:23 PM
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g0ldie posted...
anti-choice, fascists, pieces of shit

three groups where there are some obvious overlap
The venn diagram of those three is a perfect circle.

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Kitt
06/27/22 12:05:40 PM
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bsp77 posted...
Anti-choice
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GameGodOfAll
06/27/22 12:14:51 PM
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We've been going through this shit for as long as I can remember. Can we just cut the bullshit because it can go both ways of making those sides sound shitty.

Pro-Abortion

Anti-Abortion

That is as straight forward and honest as you can get. I agree Anti-Abortion is straight up anti-choice, anti-women and just an absolutely scumbag point of view to have. Same time, that side can call the Pro-Abortion side fucking anti-life or anti-babies or whatever and that'd probably sway a few tens of thousands of idiots to their side.

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Heineken14
06/27/22 12:17:08 PM
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GameGodOfAll posted...
We've been going through this shit for as long as I can remember. Can we just cut the bullshit because it can go both ways of making those sides sound shitty.

Pro-Abortion

Anti-Abortion


No it can't, because the pro choice side isn't telling women they SHOULD get abortions or FORCING them to do so. They are not pro abortion.

Meanwhile, the forced birth side IS telling women what to do and ARE forcing them to do it.

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DarkRoast
06/27/22 12:20:51 PM
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RedRanger posted...
Seems keeping unborn children from dying would be a literal definition of pro life.

Seems that states with the highest child mortality in the nation shouldn't call themselves "pro life"

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meralonne
06/27/22 12:23:59 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
https://youtu.be/SgjGwOByays
dammit, you beat me to it

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TheGoldenEel
06/27/22 12:34:30 PM
#34:


GameGodOfAll posted...
We've been going through this shit for as long as I can remember. Can we just cut the bullshit because it can go both ways of making those sides sound shitty.

Pro-Abortion

Anti-Abortion

That is as straight forward and honest as you can get. I agree Anti-Abortion is straight up anti-choice, anti-women and just an absolutely scumbag point of view to have. Same time, that side can call the Pro-Abortion side fucking anti-life or anti-babies or whatever and that'd probably sway a few tens of thousands of idiots to their side.
Pro-choice and anti-choice are the two most accurate, honest descriptors possible for the sides here

pro-life is literally just propaganda

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RchHomieQuanChi
06/27/22 12:36:06 PM
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Yup. They're pro-control. They don't give a fuck about your life, the child's life. They might not even give a fuck about their own families.

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BakonBitz
06/27/22 12:37:11 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
Except they are against social welfare programs that help the children survive after they're born.
I'm personally "pro-life" but also support social welfare programs to help those in need. It doesn't make sense to me that, if you're gonna keep women from having that choice, that you're also gonna prevent them from getting the resources they need to raise the child.

That said, while I'm personally against abortion, I'm not gonna force that belief on others.

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Southernfatman
06/27/22 12:39:04 PM
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"Children are precious and we must protect life at all costs! Also, fuck them kids. Their mothers were whores who couldn't keep their legs closed so they all deserve to starve and don't deserve one cent of muh tax money!"

The same people crying about protecting kids will be the ones cheering once benefits start getting eliminated when Republicans come to power. America's right wing want people to suffer. They revel in the suffering of others and there's nothing one can say that can dispute it.

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TyVulpine
06/27/22 12:40:26 PM
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RedRanger posted...
Seems keeping unborn children from dying would be a literal definition of pro life.
Except once the child is born, the pro-lifers are nowhere to be found to help raise him/her.

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FortuneCookie
06/27/22 12:45:43 PM
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I vote anti-life.

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RchHomieQuanChi
06/27/22 1:16:47 PM
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TyVulpine posted...
Except once the child is born, the pro-lifers are nowhere to be found to help raise him/her.

In fact, letting them suffer a life of abject poverty under parents who may not be physically/emotionally/mentally/financially able enough to take care of them is a far crueler fate than terminating them long before they have any cognitive abilities

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_HayleyWilliams
06/27/22 1:18:52 PM
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TyVulpine posted...
Except once the child is born, the pro-lifers are nowhere to be found to help raise him/her.
Because one the child is born, it stops being a person and transforms into a lesson/punishment.

They are literally dehumanizing the baby they were just crying to be born.

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_HayleyWilliams
06/27/22 1:22:46 PM
#43:


ellis123 posted...
Both sides are equally valid: pro-life and pro-death.

It just happens that the centrist take of pro-choice makes sense to a bit more people.
My man trying to say pro-death is the left side of the abortion debate. What the fuck

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ellis123
06/27/22 1:37:19 PM
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_HayleyWilliams posted...
My man trying to say pro-death is the left side of the abortion debate. What the fuck
Lady, you're acting like boomerang theory isn't a thing.

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kelemvor
06/27/22 1:54:29 PM
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BakonBitz posted...
I'm personally "pro-life" but also support social welfare programs to help those in need. It doesn't make sense to me that, if you're gonna keep women from having that choice, that you're also gonna prevent them from getting the resources they need to raise the child.

That said, while I'm personally against abortion, I'm not gonna force that belief on others.

You can personally be against abortion but still want it legal for myriad of reasons. This issue has a hundred shades of gray but the internet mob makes it sound like there is just black and white.
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BakonBitz
06/27/22 1:56:24 PM
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kelemvor posted...
You can personally be against abortion but still want it legal for myriad of reasons. This issue has a hundred shades of gray but the internet mob makes it sound like there is just black and white.

Yeah, this is my take on it.

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ellis123
06/27/22 1:57:27 PM
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BakonBitz posted...
Yeah, this is my take on it.
That would make you pro-choice.

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BakonBitz
06/27/22 2:14:45 PM
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ellis123 posted...
That would make you pro-choice.
I guess so.

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_HayleyWilliams
06/27/22 3:16:59 PM
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ellis123 posted...
Lady, you're acting like boomerang theory isn't a thing.
I mean I'm sure there are a handful of people who truly are pro-death and want births to cease permanently. But it is in no way one of the two sides in the mainstream abortion debate. It's not on any Democrat or leftist agenda. When a pro-choice protest occurs, it is actually supporting choice, not advocating mandatory abortion.

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ellis123
06/27/22 4:49:25 PM
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_HayleyWilliams posted...
I mean I'm sure there are a handful of people who truly are pro-death and want births to cease permanently. But it is in no way one of the two sides in the mainstream abortion debate. It's not on any Democrat or leftist agenda. When a pro-choice protest occurs, it is actually supporting choice, not advocating mandatory abortion.
A general rule is that whatever the leftist position happens to be is, by mostly technicality, always some sort of "center" of whatever happens to be the complete scale of a thing. It is why the Enlightened Centrists always look so dumb because whatever they're saying is obviously not even close to some sort of valid take and is just rephrasing the mid/far-right point. For instance, in women's rights the leftist position is that of equality while the right-wing position is patriarchy. However, the actual "line" would be between patriarchy and matriarchy: both are far-right with the far-left (if you want to even put it that far) position would be "true" 50:50 rights.

I'm sheerly making a joke off of this fact because, obviously, being pro-death is a stupid take but it is also the actual other end of the spectrum from pro-life. Making pro-choice the actual centrist take, not the crappy "well actually women should only get half rights" that are espoused by "centrists."

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