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Funkydog
06/20/22 4:47:56 AM
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Just why? Why Yoshi P? I started with Black Mage. What sin did I commit? :(

Literally the worst glamour/style/dress up system of any MMO I've played by a significant margin, the the point they've gone out of their way to make it bad. Now, it does have some good points, but largely just utter garbage with no change in sight.

Other MMO's I can just slap whatever fancy outfit I want, with few to no restriction, and it just applies on top of whatever you're wearing? Simple right? You'd expect critically acclaimed... to largely follow this method, no? SWTOR and ESO do it this way. Dunno about Fallout 76. Maybe others do as well?

But what does the genius FF14 do?

Restrictions! Restrictions everywhere! Limited by class(job) being the most annoying one, and for little to no reason. "preserve the class style integrity my arse" If you claim that, I will slap you with my tank dressed as a chicken, in a bikini or my dragoon dress as a sexy playboy bunny.

Yes, I did just spend lots of MGP buying outfits to discover I can't use them on anything but a healer class. Yes, I am an idiot for thinking it'd work in a sensible fashion and not actually checking. But I'm an annoyed idiot.

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NocturnalLight
06/20/22 5:00:54 AM
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All MGP gear has no class restrictions tho

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Irony
06/20/22 5:03:20 AM
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The only MGP gear with class restrictions are weapons and I don't recall a bikini weapon

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Funkydog
06/20/22 5:03:30 AM
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NocturnalLight posted...
All MGP gear has no class restrictions tho
I bought some "moon priestess" stuff that is only useable by the healer jobs though. A fair amount of the stuff sold is as you say, but not the fancy stuff I wanted :(

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DarthAragorn
06/20/22 5:03:47 AM
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That's not even the worst part

You have to store the gear in the glamour dresser and that's pretty limited in space

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Funkydog
06/20/22 5:04:46 AM
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DarthAragorn posted...
That's not even the worst part

You have to store the gear in the glamour dresser and that's pretty limited in space
That as well, yes. Thanks for adding to my anger about FF's crappy system.

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Irony
06/20/22 5:05:09 AM
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DarthAragorn posted...
That's not even the worst part

You have to store the gear in the glamour dresser and that's pretty limited in space
What? It originally was 400 which is a lot, it was doubled to 800.

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NocturnalLight
06/20/22 5:10:51 AM
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Funkydog posted...
I bought some "moon priestess" stuff that is only useable by the healer jobs though. A fair amount of the stuff sold is as you say, but not the fancy stuff I wanted :(
Definitely not MGP.
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Funkydog
06/20/22 5:13:22 AM
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NocturnalLight posted...
Definitely not MGP.
Literally was. "prize 3" or something. The left most lady sells it for 100,000 MGP for the top, and then 30/25k for the other stuff.

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Irony
06/20/22 5:14:28 AM
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He's probably talking about the shitting Garo stuff

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nexigrams
06/20/22 5:17:08 AM
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It's beyond dumb. They really need to copy WoW's tmog system. If you had the item at some point, you can glamour it. That's it, no holding on to it in a special, limited space wardrobe. No carrying around all these plates and prisms and weird shit. Just, I looted that item once, now I can glamour it. The end.

Doubtful though tbh. They recently removed an entire gear slot from the game because they said it would free up database storage and you couldn't really see them on glamour anyways (belts iirc). Big yikes.

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Funkydog
06/20/22 5:17:37 AM
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Irony posted...
He's probably talking about the shitting Garo stuff

Maybe? I have no idea if its found elsewhere - I just saw it for sale at the Golden Saucer and presumed the game had a sensible outfit system.

Lesson learnt. Guess I have to play a healer now dammit.

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DarthAragorn
06/20/22 5:20:13 AM
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Irony posted...
What? It originally was 400 which is a lot, it was doubled to 800.
Oh it was still 400 last I checked. Which definitely wasn't enough

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Hayame Zero
06/20/22 5:24:16 AM
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My wife is obsessed with glams, and also using Fantasias.

She says the key for managing space is mostly just focusing on tops

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FunkyCat
06/20/22 5:39:32 AM
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Hayame Zero posted...
My wife is obsessed with glams, and also using Fantasias.

She says the key for managing space is mostly just focusing on tops
Sounds a good way to do it tbh. Thanks for the good tip.

Now more rage plz.

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Dakimakura
06/20/22 6:34:14 AM
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I am also obsessed with glamour in this game. It legit sucks that the system is so damn limited. SE does this all over the game in attempt to limit server data or force you to buy more retainers. Game would be so much better if they were not greedy in this regard.

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Funkydog
06/20/22 7:39:39 AM
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Space Barbie is what I spent most of my time doing when I played SWTOR as well. Definitely some of the better parts of an MMO when they actually enable and encourage it.

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loafy013
06/20/22 7:47:34 AM
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Laughs in FFXI. Want to be a good THF? You are wearing green pants, a red body harness, and a pointy hat. Took over a decade before they finagled a way to give you the cosmetic appearance of gear you owned.

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Rharyx211
06/20/22 7:48:53 AM
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Tbf, I'm pretty sure it tells you what jobs the equipment is limited to in its info box. It'll say "all classes" or list whatever like "WHM BLM RDM" etc.

Glamour system is pretty fucked, though. But my main issue is with something different.

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Funkydog
06/20/22 7:53:04 AM
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Rharyx211 posted...
Tbf, I'm pretty sure it tells you what jobs the equipment is limited to in its info box. It'll say "all classes" or list whatever like "WHM BLM RDM" etc.

Glamour system is pretty fucked, though. But my main issue is with something different.
Oh it does. I just naively assumed the glamour system wouldn't care about that because why the fuck would it?

It legit never even occurred to me to even think it'd matter. I'm not trying to actively wear it as my actual equipment. I just want the look.

I'm gonna be seething for days. >:(

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Dakimakura
06/20/22 8:00:37 AM
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Funkydog posted...
Space Barbie is what I spent most of my time doing when I played SWTOR as well. Definitely some of the better parts of an MMO when they actually enable and encourage it.

They do encourage and enable it, just the restrictions on it are pretty tight as a means to save on server usage.

DarthAragorn posted...
Oh it was still 400 last I checked. Which definitely wasn't enough

It is still 400. It is rumored to double to 800 in patch 6.2. I am not believing it until see it in the patch notes though.

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Funkydog
06/20/22 3:25:58 PM
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Dakimakura posted...
They do encourage and enable it, just the restrictions on it are pretty tight as a means to save on server usage.
Maybe I was a little harsh, but I'm still ANGRY dammit. "Server usage" seems a dubious reason though tbh.

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DEKMStephens
06/20/22 3:32:30 PM
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Role restrictions are a bit of a problem. More than job gear restriction what really gets me is how each expansion they make 8+3 unique gear sets for crafter and gatherer classes that and locked to each class. That is a HUGE amount of unique gear sets barely anyone uses and absolutely no one glamours, considering they only do about 4 unique armor sets across the 7 roles per dungeon/raid, and gear sets are frequently recolours of old gear.

It is also why I wasn't particularly aggravated by most loot in the new pvp vendor being pallets swaps of old job gear but with same job restrictions. They have nicer textures but what is even the point of that?

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Wedge Antilles
06/20/22 3:33:39 PM
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It's one of a small amount of things WoW does better. I think they've mentioned it being an issue they'll get to eventually, it's just not high priority.

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SSJKirby
06/20/22 3:34:29 PM
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Because 1.0 was a huge disaster and 2.0 was such a rush job we're still feeling the effects today

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pogo_rabid
06/20/22 3:44:55 PM
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Glamour is the worst part of FFXIV.

How it should work is, you get a piece of gear, it is forever unlocked in your glamor dresser, even if you get rid of the piece, your account should have it "checked off" for future use in glams.

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Funkydog
06/21/22 2:24:25 PM
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Also, the usage of quest items is so damn annoying.

Why doesn't it just automatically use them/hand them over? Why do I have to do a few needless extra clicks?

Yes it's incredibly minor, but so infuriating.

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