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Veggeta_MAX
06/15/22 10:05:45 AM
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With little to no training before hand. Go. Yugi?

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Tyranthraxus
06/15/22 10:07:57 AM
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This is pretty much the entirety of Saint Seiya. The previous fight is functionally training for the next one.

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Veggeta_MAX
06/15/22 10:24:33 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
This is pretty much the entirety of Saint Seiya. The previous fight is functionally training for the next one.
i've never watched the series. it looks too much like a combo of power rangers and sailor moon combined.

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The Popo
06/15/22 10:25:28 AM
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One Punch Man

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gunplagirl
06/15/22 10:27:41 AM
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Saitama
Giorno Giovanna excluding the final arc

Veggeta_MAX posted...
i've never watched the series. it looks too much like a combo of power rangers and sailor moon combined.
It's so much better than those. Heck, it came out a year before JoJo and really is an iconic shonen manga and anime.

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Veggeta_MAX
06/15/22 10:27:57 AM
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The Popo posted...
One Punch Man
OPM is a bajillion times stronger than any villain so he don't exactly fit the criteria

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MaxEffingBemis
06/15/22 10:30:05 AM
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Luffy on a few occasions in the beginning of the series

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Kim_Seong-a
06/15/22 10:31:25 AM
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Fairy Tail I guess?

I havent seen it in years but Im pretty sure pink haired guy never actually trains or practices anything. He just sort of friendships his way to victory.

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ViewtifulJoe
06/15/22 10:31:52 AM
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Does Kenshin count as this? Even though he's got a glorified baseball bat and they have the fullest intent to maim or kill? Does it all level out to fit the criteria?

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MaxEffingBemis
06/15/22 10:32:30 AM
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Yusuke beat Hiei and Rando without training in YYH

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Veggeta_MAX
06/15/22 10:33:28 AM
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ViewtifulJoe posted...
Does Kenshin count as this? Even though he's got a glorified baseball bat and they have the fullest intent to maim or kill? Does it all level out to fit the criteria?
For most fights yeah until Shishio

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Kim_Seong-a
06/15/22 10:33:38 AM
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ViewtifulJoe posted...
Does Kenshin count as this? Even though he's got a glorified baseball bat and they have the fullest intent to maim or kill? Does it all level out to fit the criteria?

Kenshin actually isntstronger than Shishio at least iirc. Idk about anything after that as I skipped the weird Christian missionary arc from the anime and never finished the manga. >_>

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Holy_Cloud105
06/15/22 10:38:31 AM
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Kim_Seong-a posted...
Kenshin actually isntstronger than Shishio at least iirc. Idk about anything after that as I skipped the weird Christian missionary arc from the anime and never finished the manga. >_>
Kenshin is 100% stronger than Shishio. Shioshio was fighting all half dead opponents while he was relatively healthy. The only people Kenshin isn't stronger than are his master who was confirmed to be unbeatable by anyone in the series and probably Enishi. Enishi with Nerves of Insanity active would have killed Kenshin had he not revealed a skill he never used the entire series to take advantage of Enishi's heightened senses.

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Questionmarktarius
06/15/22 10:38:56 AM
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Speed Racer
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Tyranthraxus
06/15/22 10:41:12 AM
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Holy_Cloud105 posted...
Kenshin is 100% stronger than Shishio. Shioshio was fighting all half dead opponents while he was relatively healthy. The only people Kenshin isn't stronger than are his master who was confirmed to be unbeatable by anyone in the series and probably Enishi. Enishi with Nerves of Insanity active would have killed Kenshin had he not revealed a skill he never used the entire series to take advantage of Enishi's heightened senses.

Kenshin fights with a handicap. If he was willing to murder everyone there's nobody that could even come close to stopping him.

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A_Good_Boy
06/15/22 10:41:30 AM
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MaxEffingBemis posted...
Luffy on a few occasions in the beginning of the series
Luffy is definitely stronger than everyone he fights up until he encounters Rob Lucci. Well, i guess until he fights Aokiji, buy I don't think he's "main arc villain" at that moment.

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ViewtifulJoe
06/15/22 10:45:08 AM
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Kim_Seong-a posted...
Kenshin actually isntstronger than Shishio at least iirc. Idk about anything after that as I skipped the weird Christian missionary arc from the anime and never finished the manga. >_>
It's a hard call. He had Aoshi and Soujiro to go through beforehand. He was clean one-shotted by SECRET SWORD TWO, so that could end it then and there. The writer did make a big point of Kenshin having motivation though, I think he said at the end of the series that were Kenshin and Saito to fight, Saito would win unless Kenshin had something bigger on the line or someone to fight for, maybe having that as a power up condition puts Kenshin above Shishio. Depends what you count as character strength and what's just circumstance.

The manga was pretty good and has me wondering, was Kenshin stronger than Enishi?
I think I remember them saying Shishio would beat Enishi, but Enishi built his moveset from the ground up to hard counter Hiten Mitsurugi. Does that count as what this topic wants?

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Veggeta_MAX
06/15/22 10:46:47 AM
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wtf kenshin literally had to go train to beat the last bosses

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Holy_Cloud105
06/15/22 10:47:18 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Kenshin fights with a handicap. If he was willing to murder everyone there's nobody that could even come close to stopping him.
Not really. Watsuki confirmed Hiko Seijuro is the strongest person in the series and nobody could stop him. Enishi's style was created specifically to counter Kenshin's.

Kenshin was also much stronger than he ever was after learning ARH. He also got a second power up after Enishi stomped him the first time and still barely won after Nerves of Insanity came into play.

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ViewtifulJoe
06/15/22 10:49:18 AM
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Veggeta_MAX posted...
wtf kenshin literally had to go train to beat the last bosses
The Final Boss has four henchmen and needed to use secret techniques because he'd explode after 15 minutes of fighting. Kenshin resolved to use what he thought was a real sword at the time to kill Chou too so if push came to shove he could have grabbed Saito's sword and done something similar.

I kinda can't remember the run-up to Enishi, wasn't it less training and more he was depressed and they needed to snap him out of it?

Holy_Cloud105 posted...
Shishio was able to break his sword
Also that was Soujiro, he had the turbo speed move. Shishio did no fighting until he absolutely needed to and was ready to finish things then and there. Edit: Except like one slash against Usui who wasn't being serious, just maintaining the image of trying to usurp Shishio.

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Holy_Cloud105
06/15/22 10:55:47 AM
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ViewtifulJoe posted...
Also that was Soujiro, he had the turbo speed move. Shishio did no fighting until he absolutely needed to and was ready to finish things then and there. Edit: Except like one slash against Usui who wasn't being serious, just maintaining the image of trying to usurp Shishio.
Oh right. I got them mixed up.

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The Popo
06/15/22 10:55:53 AM
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Goku and Pilaf

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ViewtifulJoe
06/15/22 10:58:06 AM
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Also there's some non-canon stuff to throw wrenches into the works.
There's a movie where Enishi is giving Kenshin a really hard time, Kenshin offers his life up but then Enishi sees Kaoru shielding him and gives up on the spot.
There's also an OVA where Kenshin fights Shishio on the Rengoku and Kenshin kills him then and there by splitting his head open because the heat on the damaged ship tees him up for it or something.

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DarkRoast
06/15/22 11:02:24 AM
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First of the North Star

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Jaguar34
06/15/22 1:09:58 PM
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That Time I Got Reincarnated by a Slime does this a lot
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Seaman_Prime
06/15/22 1:33:04 PM
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Fist of the North Star
Goblin Slayer
Borutos dad in Boruto
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yusiko
06/15/22 1:38:34 PM
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gunplagirl posted...
Saitama
Giorno Giovanna excluding the final arc

It's so much better than those. Heck, it came out a year before JoJo and really is an iconic shonen manga and anime.


Nothing is better than sailor moon

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A_Good_Boy
06/15/22 1:38:43 PM
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Seaman_Prime posted...
Borutos dad in Boruto
That one shouldn't count

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