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pikachupwnage
06/14/22 5:43:54 PM
#104:


Timmyjinkle posted...
Merely uttering it in public in the UK can get you up to six months in prison.
With a capital city with more CCTV than even Beijing ~ it's very difficult to say anything in public without recourse in the UK, of course.

escuse me what the fuck?

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A_Good_Boy
06/14/22 5:44:48 PM
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CE is really putting its well adjusted adult-ness on display in this topic.

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spikethedevil
06/14/22 5:48:18 PM
#107:


Timmyjinkle posted...
Merely uttering it in public in the UK can get you up to six months in prison.
With a capital city with more CCTV than even Beijing ~ it's very difficult to say anything in public without recourse in the UK, of course.


This is complete BS btw.

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spikethedevil
06/14/22 5:49:11 PM
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Meanwhile the US tries to badly police the entire world.

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Smackems
06/14/22 5:49:24 PM
#109:


Bob's your uncle, zed

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Smackems
06/14/22 5:50:19 PM
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They've got muskets and dragoons to back it up

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Gwynevere
06/14/22 6:03:36 PM
#111:


cjsdowg posted...
When people in the UK stop using a F word for a smokes.. then I would care about this. I really don't like Lizzo, but I will say people going after her for using AMERICAN English pisses me off. Like they are just trying to push a black woman around.
Dude you do this every time a black celebrity gets criticized. You went to bat for Chappelle and his transphobic garbage and now Lizzo. We really don't need anyone picking up FrisbeeDudes slack while he's gone

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Compsognathus
06/14/22 6:15:51 PM
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Yeah, the word is not a slur and generally inoffensive in America, so I absolutely understand why she initially used it. But if you are gonna market and sell your music in other countries you have to be mindful of the fact that those countries can have very different interpretations of those words and plan accordingly.

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BignutzisBack
06/14/22 6:18:28 PM
#113:


Compsognathus posted...
Yeah, the word is not a slur and generally inoffensive in America, so I absolutely understand why she initially used it. But if you are gonna market and sell your music in other countries you have to be mindful of the fact that those countries can have very different interpretations of those words and plan accordingly.

How come it is Moddable on Game FAQs?

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ultimate reaver
06/14/22 6:23:06 PM
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I Love Ableism

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Mr_Karate_II
06/14/22 6:28:17 PM
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Since when is it a slur? Never known it to be a slur here in the US.

Britain has no room to talk about slurs though considering what they call cigarettes

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TheGoldenEel
06/14/22 6:28:35 PM
#119:


A_Good_Boy posted...
Rap songs have radio edits literally all the time, it doesn't mean the song was condemned. Hell, I don't remember that song generating any controversy at the time. They re-issued the song for an NBA promo and the re-released version was just simply more popular than the original version.
ok but radio edits are typically for content considered offensive by some, no?


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Funkydog
06/14/22 6:35:35 PM
#120:


Mr_Karate_II posted...
Britain has no room to talk about slurs though considering what they call cigarettes
You know that slang came first, right?

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BignutzisBack
06/14/22 6:37:00 PM
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Saying "how come slurs are moddable is a weird post", right after I asked how come the word is moddable literally one post after a moderator said it isn't a slur is a weird post

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A_Good_Boy
06/14/22 6:42:27 PM
#123:


TheGoldenEel posted...
ok but radio edits are typically for content considered offensive by some, no?
Bro stop. What rap single doesn't have a radio edit?

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Lost_All_Senses
06/14/22 6:48:43 PM
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I used that word a lot here lol. I can stop using it online, if it's a killjoy word. But nobody around me irl is easily offended. We poke fun at each other and our own conditions to normalize them and take away the perspective that they're a big deal to us. Works for us. But not everyone finds the same things therapeutic. So, if words I use are making people feel a certain way, it's not hard to stop using a word.

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Blade_Trinity
06/14/22 6:49:15 PM
#125:


Mr_Karate_II posted...
Since when is it a slur? Never known it to be a slur here in the US.

Britain has no room to talk about slurs though considering what they call cigarettes
I'm quite sure the cigarettes aren't offended

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BignutzisBack
06/14/22 6:56:23 PM
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Do you know where Gamefaqs is based and what Federal laws they base things like speech and drug use site guidelines around...champ?

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Questionmarktarius
06/14/22 6:58:26 PM
#127:


BignutzisBack posted...
Do you know where Gamefaqs is based and what Federal laws they base things like speech and drug use site guidelines around...champ?
Still inconsistent.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/6/3/AAEhCpAADVzz.jpg

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A_Good_Boy
06/14/22 6:58:57 PM
#128:


BignutzisBack posted...
Do you know where Gamefaqs is based and what Federal laws they base things like speech and drug use site guidelines around...champ?
Lizzo posts on gamefaqs?

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TheGoldenEel
06/14/22 7:20:55 PM
#129:


A_Good_Boy posted...
Bro stop. What rap single doesn't have a radio edit?
Like, every other black eyed peas track

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Vicious_Dios
06/14/22 9:25:55 PM
#132:


Like that will finally get me to listen to a Lizzo track. lmao

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cjsdowg
06/14/22 10:00:34 PM
#133:


Gwynevere posted...
Dude you do this every time a black celebrity gets criticized. You went to bat for Chappelle and his transphobic garbage and now Lizzo. We really don't need anyone picking up FrisbeeDudes slack while he's gone

What do you think I said to defend Dave?

As for this, tell me are you making push for people in the UK to change what they call cigarettes? How about fighting people when they use fanny pack?

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Timmyjinkle
06/15/22 4:59:42 AM
#134:


spikethedevil posted...
This is complete BS btw.

What? It's all true:

Six Months Prison:
https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/disability-hate-crime-and-other-crimes-against-disabled-people-prosecution-guidance

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1986/64/section/4A

"Intentional harassment, alarm or distress.

(1)A person is guilty of an offence if, with intent to cause a person harassment, alarm or distress, he

(a)uses threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour, or disorderly behaviour, or

(b)displays any writing, sign or other visible representation which is threatening, abusive or insulting,

thereby causing that or another person harassment, alarm or distress.

(2)An offence under this section may be committed in a public or a private place, except that no offence is committed where the words or behaviour are used, or the writing, sign or other visible representation is displayed, by a person inside a dwelling and the person who is harassed, alarmed or distressed is also inside that or another dwelling.

(3)It is a defence for the accused to prove

(a)that he was inside a dwelling and had no reason to believe that the words or behaviour used, or the writing, sign or other visible representation displayed, would be heard or seen by a person outside that or any other dwelling, or

(b)that his conduct was reasonable.

(4)F2. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

(5)A person guilty of an offence under this section is liable on summary conviction to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 6 months or a fine not exceeding level 5 on the standard scale or both."

CCTV:
https://www.comparitech.com/vpn-privacy/the-worlds-most-surveilled-cities/

"London, England (UK) 691,000 cameras for 9,425,622 people = 73.31 cameras per 1,000 people
[...]
Beijing, China 1,150,000 cameras for 20,896,820 people = 55.03 cameras per 1,000 people"

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ZevLoveDOOM
06/15/22 5:00:49 AM
#135:


didnt know that word was considered a slur tbh. i thought it was just synonymous with idiot or something.

either way, i love Lizzo but this song is ass...
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Timmyjinkle
06/15/22 1:20:10 PM
#137:


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I linked two links for a reason:

"Any incident / crime which is perceived by the victim or any other person, to be motivated by a hostility or prejudice based on a person's disability or perceived disability".

Which means you get incidents like this: https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna42779407

So, yes... Mere utterance in public can you arrested, and charged.

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spikethedevil
06/15/22 2:27:43 PM
#138:


TBF he sang it in front of a Chinese person.

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OudeGeuze
06/16/22 11:21:31 AM
#139:


Woke white people:

Other prominent black artists name a song Spaz: I sleep

Lizzo uses it as a lyric: real shit

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