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AltyMcAltface
05/25/22 10:22:46 AM
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then you are pro school shootings, full stop.

you valuing your "right" to live out your bullshit Rambo Commando power fantasies over the lives of children is the reason why this shit keeps happening. you not being willing to vote in any politician or congressman who would be amenable to stricter gun laws is the reason an 18 year old in this country can go and legally buy two AR-15 style rifles and body armor within days of his 18th birthday, and then use them to go shoot up a school. you are the reason we have hundreds of mass shooting incidents this year already, and thousands before that. this blood is on your hands.

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whitelytning
05/25/22 10:26:40 AM
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No.

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pogo_rabid
05/25/22 10:28:38 AM
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Rhetoric like this does nothing to convince others to come over to your side.

If you actually cared and wanted to make a difference you should be pushing for more stringent gun control instead of straight up demonizing all gun owners.

I mean, if your only goal is to just circlejerk and farm clout from like minded individuals, more power to you, but as far as contributing positively to the conversation and pushing the cause forward for clamping down on firearms, you're doing more harm than good.

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gunplagirl
05/25/22 10:29:45 AM
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I'm a member of several minority groups and one is especially vulnerable as we face laws furthering what forms of discrimination are allowed upon us. I have a genuine need for guns to protect myself and others from fascists who are only growing more emboldened in their attacks on my community.

Thing is, I don't want lax gun control laws. It's easier to get a gun than to legally change your name if you're trans. Hell, it costs less in most counties.

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QueenCarly
05/25/22 10:30:24 AM
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This shit is super cringe.

Yeah, mass shootings are definitely a result of guns being legal, and not hateful racists or right wing extremism.

Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary.

This especially applies to marginalized populations.


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Questionmarktarius
05/25/22 10:32:09 AM
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If anything, the alcohol and car-rental ages are too high.
If you are old enough be drafted into the army, you are an adult. Fuck off with staggering any other adult rights.

Probably wouldn't hurt to re-examine the constitutional age requirements for public offices, also.
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Accolon
05/25/22 10:36:06 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
If anything, the alcohol and car-rental ages are too high.
If you are old enough be drafted into the army, you are an adult. Fuck off with staggering any other adult rights.

Probably wouldn't hurt to re-examine the constitutional age requirements for public offices, also.

Maybe we should reevaluate shipping 18 year old kids off to war.

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Questionmarktarius
05/25/22 10:36:51 AM
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Accolon posted...
Maybe we should reevaluate shipping 18 year old kids off to war.
That's the better idea, yes.
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gunplagirl
05/25/22 10:38:15 AM
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QueenCarly posted...
This shit is super cringe.

Yeah, mass shootings are definitely a result of guns being legal, and not hateful racists or right wing extremism.

Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary.

This especially applies to marginalized populations.
Ding, it's hateful people who often harbor misogynistic thoughts who do these crimes.

Accolon posted...
Maybe we should reevaluate shipping 18 year old kids off to war.
Also this

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Dark_Spiret
05/25/22 10:39:20 AM
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Accolon posted...
Maybe we should reevaluate shipping 18 year old kids off to war.
25 should be the new 18. for everything.
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Heartomaton
05/25/22 10:40:09 AM
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I don't agree with the OP, however...

whitelytning posted...
No.

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SergeantGander
05/25/22 10:40:16 AM
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gunplagirl posted...
I'm a member of several minority groups and one is especially vulnerable as we face laws furthering what forms of discrimination are allowed upon us. I have a genuine need for guns to protect myself and others from fascists who are only growing more emboldened in their attacks on my community.

Thing is, I don't want lax gun control laws. It's easier to get a gun than to legally change your name if you're trans. Hell, it costs less in most counties.

This 100%. People that want to do harm will do harm. If you take the gun out of the minority's hands they will then be more vulnerable.

Gun laws need to reformed. The problem is rhetoric like TC's prohibits anyone from the right from participating in the conversation.

Edit: Also, I've said this before but I think with some of our astronomical Defense dollars, a few million could go towards funding security guards for each and every school. Throw in metal detectors. If safety is the #1 concern, lets stop any intruder at the door.

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AltyMcAltface
05/25/22 12:08:18 PM
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pogo_rabid posted...
Rhetoric like this does nothing to convince others to come over to your side.
hint: they are never going to come over to my side, ever, no matter what i or anyone on my side says

pogo_rabid posted...
If you actually cared and wanted to make a difference you should be pushing for more stringent gun control instead of straight up demonizing all gun owners.
the left has been pushing for more stringent gun control for decades but it gets blocked at every turn by you know who

QueenCarly posted...
Yeah, mass shootings are definitely a result of guns being legal, and not hateful racists or right wing extremism.
things can have more than one causal factor

SergeantGander posted...
Gun laws need to reformed. The problem is rhetoric like TC's prohibits anyone from the right from participating in the conversation.
why the fuck would i want any of those chuds participating in the conversation? all they would do is shit it up

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DyingPancake
05/25/22 12:14:21 PM
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TC is the kind of person who salivates when these types of things happen so he can feign outrage and yell at others

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AltyMcAltface
05/25/22 12:15:20 PM
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DyingPancake posted...
TC is the kind of person who salivates when these types of things happen so he can feign outrage and yell at others
fuck off

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Malcrasternus
05/25/22 12:16:18 PM
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Welcome to the most stupid topic of the day everyone. Glad you could make it.

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DyingPancake
05/25/22 12:16:27 PM
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AltyMcAltface posted...
fuck off

whitelytning posted...
No.


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PatrickMahomes
05/25/22 12:18:35 PM
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i think the bigger question is, why are people so eager to bite weak bait from a guy whose username is literally altymcaltface

There is room for discussion but not with someone like this

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Intro2Logic
05/25/22 12:21:52 PM
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It really doesn't matter what people like TC say; right wingers hear the slightest whiff of restrictions as an effort to confiscate all guns. Modifying your language won't make a difference to an audience that only hears your words through a filter of bullshit.

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AltyMcAltface
05/25/22 12:24:49 PM
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PatrickMahomes posted...
i think the bigger question is, why are people so eager to bite weak bait from a guy whose username is literally altymcaltface

There is room for discussion but not with someone like this
yeah sorry my main got suspended for calling out users who agree with Bill Maher's shit take on regional transgender statistics. a take that multiple users got modded or suspended for agreeing with.

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armandro
05/25/22 12:28:30 PM
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i'm 4'11 and live near the ghetto

how am i suppose to defend myself?

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AltyMcAltface
05/25/22 12:28:53 PM
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i agree those are contributing factors as well that need to be addressed, but the biggest contributing factor is definitely the guns themselves, the amount in circulation both legally and illegally, the ease of availability, and the gun culture that is ingrained into so many people's way of life in this country

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DirkDiggles
05/25/22 12:29:20 PM
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AltyMcAltface posted...
then you are pro school shootings, full stop.

you valuing your "right" to live out your bullshit Rambo Commando power fantasies over the lives of children is the reason why this shit keeps happening. you not being willing to vote in any politician or congressman who would be amenable to stricter gun laws is the reason an 18 year old in this country can go and legally buy two AR-15 style rifles and body armor within days of his 18th birthday, and then use them to go shoot up a school. you are the reason we have hundreds of mass shooting incidents this year already, and thousands before that. this blood is on your hands.

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Enderknight17
05/25/22 12:37:02 PM
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As a gun owner I'm sickened by every shooting. Me owning guns doesn't in anyway contribute to a shooting, though. If they mandated a buy back I'd be first in line. It's tragic, and mental health has a lot of blame. What sane person would want to kill other people?

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scorpion41
05/25/22 12:42:36 PM
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Intro2Logic posted...
It really doesn't matter what people like TC say; right wingers hear the slightest whiff of restrictions as an effort to confiscate all guns. Modifying your language won't make a difference to an audience that only hears your words through a filter of bullshit.

Because more laws are not the answer when addressing gun violence. Restricting 99% of law-abiding citizens from acquiring a firearm legally by increasing the red tape isnt going to stop a criminal from buying one in the back alley with the serial scratched off. Were way beyond that type of gun control. We need to address the why and increase deterrence.

What is concerning is how we can restrict access to school board offices, but our schools are wide open. You cant get past the front lobby of most district offices without someone buzzing you through or entering a code, and every other entry point is locked with a passcode. But, go to a school and its the exact opposite. You can enter a school from anywhere off the street and go where you want on campus. This is a big problem.

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AltyMcAltface
05/25/22 12:43:40 PM
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scorpion41 posted...
Because more laws are not the answer when addressing gun violence. Restricting 99% of law-abiding citizens from acquiring a firearm legally by increasing the red tape isnt going to stop a criminal from buying one in the back alley with the serial scratched off
the vast majority of mass shootings were done using legally acquired firearms

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scorpion41
05/25/22 12:47:08 PM
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AltyMcAltface posted...
the vast majority of mass shootings were done using legally acquired firearms

You're missing the point

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AltyMcAltface
05/25/22 12:49:07 PM
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scorpion41 posted...
You're missing the point
you are missing the point. the point is that the ridiculous number of guns in circulation in the US (more than there are people in the US), the ease of availability of those guns (legally or illegally), and the fervor with which certain people in the country hold their culture of gun worship, is the primary reason why mass shootings keep happening, and will keep happening until something meaningful is done about all that.

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DirkDiggles
05/25/22 12:55:13 PM
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AltyMcAltface posted...
you are missing the point. the point is that the ridiculous number of guns in circulation in the US (more than there are people in the US), the ease of availability of those guns (legally or illegally), and the fervor with which certain people in the country hold their culture of gun worship, is the primary reason why mass shootings keep happening, and will keep happening until something meaningful is done about all that.

And the lowest common denominator is???????????

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AltyMcAltface
05/25/22 12:56:26 PM
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DirkDiggles posted...
And the lowest common denominator is???????????
i don't understand what you're asking

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scorpion41
05/25/22 12:57:19 PM
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AltyMcAltface posted...
you are missing the point. the point is that the ridiculous number of guns in circulation in the US (more than there are people in the US), the ease of availability of those guns (legally or illegally), and the fervor with which certain people in the country hold their culture of gun worship, is the primary reason why mass shootings keep happening, and will keep happening until something meaningful is done about all that.

Something meaningful like repealing the Second Amendment? Because thats the only way gun registration, bans, confiscation, etc. would fly. Any restrictions on the second amendment not outlined in the constitution would cause problems, and will lead to restrictions on other rights in the name of safety and security. They already tried with the ministry of truth. The government doesnt need that kind of power.

And you need to chill out. Stressing out like this cant be good for your health or your keyboard.

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Pepys Monster
05/25/22 12:57:28 PM
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Accolon posted...
Maybe we should reevaluate shipping 18 year old kids off to war.
Counterpoint: Some 18 year olds need to survive without the help of parents. The military gives them housing, food, pay, and a chance for a college education.

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AltyMcAltface
05/25/22 12:57:49 PM
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scorpion41 posted...
Something meaningful like repealing the Second Amendment?
yes

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DirkDiggles
05/25/22 1:00:04 PM
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Take guns out of the equation. ________ will use knives to kill _______.
Take knives out of the equation. ________ will use cars to kill _______.
Take cars out of the equation. _________ will use homemade bombs to kill _______.

I sure hope you get the hint. In Texas, you need a permit to fish but not to own a firearm.

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Tmaster148
05/25/22 1:00:21 PM
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You think anyone on the right actually cares about children? They literally push to force woman to give birth and then refuse policies to help the mother actually care for their child they didn't want.

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