Current Events > Russian soldier sentenced to life in prison in Ukraine's first war crimes trial

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Scorsese2002
05/24/22 4:19:09 AM
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https://twitter.com/nbcnews/status/1528952954895708160?s=21&t=58Y1BuGOjeWrVJ-jbLLZXg

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ZeroV2
05/24/22 4:20:04 AM
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do this or we imprison you

vs

do this and we will imprison you

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Turtlebread
05/24/22 4:20:25 AM
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too bad

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Kloe_Rinz
05/24/22 4:22:50 AM
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Only life in prison? Hes an enemy combatant
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Slayer_22
05/24/22 4:24:04 AM
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ZeroV2 posted...
do this or we imprison you

vs

do this and we will imprison you
Yeah, no, there's no excuse for killing others, especially innocent civilians, regardless of orders.

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ZeroV2
05/24/22 4:24:53 AM
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Slayer_22 posted...
Yeah, no, there's no excuse for killing others, especially innocent civilians, regardless of orders.
thats literally war.

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Nukazie
05/24/22 4:26:36 AM
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it's gonna take a while to sentence all of em

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Thompson
05/24/22 4:29:02 AM
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Kloe_Rinz posted...
Only life in prison? Hes an enemy combatant
He's 21. He'll be living inside a concrete cube for the next 50-60 years.

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pogo_rabid
05/24/22 4:32:17 AM
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ZeroV2 posted...
thats literally war.
You didn't see the security cam footage of what he did, did you?

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DrizztLink
05/24/22 4:36:00 AM
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ZeroV2 posted...
thats literally war.
You're literally an idiot.

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ZeroV2
05/24/22 4:37:04 AM
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DrizztLink posted...
You're literally an idiot.
nah you are

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GGuirao13
05/24/22 4:39:16 AM
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Good.

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FunkyCat
05/24/22 4:40:16 AM
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Of course someone on CE defends the fucking war criminal

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pogo_rabid
05/24/22 4:41:10 AM
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FunkyCat posted...
Of course someone on CE defends the fucking war criminal
FunkyCat, you don't understand.

"America Bad"

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ZeroV2
05/24/22 4:41:27 AM
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FunkyCat posted...
Of course someone on CE defends the fucking war criminal
god forbid we have empathy for a young man put in an impossible situation

Im not saying it was good that he killed a guy, obviously. Im saying he had to choose between life in prison or life in prison

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FunkyCat
05/24/22 4:42:57 AM
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He didnt just kill a Ukrainian soldier.

He is a war criminal and committed acts that condemned him so

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pinky0926
05/24/22 4:43:18 AM
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ZeroV2 posted...
god forbid we have empathy for a young man put in an impossible situation

Im not saying it was good that he killed a guy, obviously. Im saying he had to choose between life in prison or life in prison

Why don't you go watch the video of what he did and why he did it before you keep putting your foot any further down your throat.

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Philip027
05/24/22 4:45:27 AM
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ZeroV2 posted...
god forbid we have empathy for a young man put in an impossible situation

Im not saying it was good that he killed a guy, obviously. Im saying he had to choose between life in prison or life in prison

If we're going by the logic is that his fate is the same either way, the choice was more like "kill an innocent civilian in cold blood" or "don't"

We're supposed to have empathy for people who would do the former, though? That's an interesting take.
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BurmesePenguin
05/24/22 4:46:21 AM
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ZeroV2 posted...
god forbid we have empathy for a young man put in an impossible situation

Im not saying it was good that he killed a guy, obviously. Im saying he had to choose between life in prison or life in prison
Im not without empathy, but your interpretation is full of false dichotomy, falsehoods, stupidity and I can only assume youre not actually that dumb and have political motivations for pretending to be so.

Youre exactly the kind of person who would write a long essay on 4chan about how I was just following orders should be a valid defense.
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Kloe_Rinz
05/24/22 4:46:34 AM
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ZeroV2 posted...
god forbid we have empathy for a young man put in an impossible situation
enemy combatant "just following orders"
a literal invader and killer of innocents
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Frolex
05/24/22 4:47:24 AM
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wow, who'd have thought a goofy ass gimmick poster would try to "both sides" a war crime

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RustyReborn
05/24/22 4:51:22 AM
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This whole thing sucks ass, fuck Putin.

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ZeroV2
05/24/22 4:52:16 AM
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BurmesePenguin posted...
Im not without empathy, but your interpretation is full of false dichotomy, falsehoods, stupidity and I can only assume youre not actually that dumb and have political motivations for pretending to be so.

Youre exactly the kind of person who would write a long essay on 4chan about how I was just following orders should be a valid defense.
explain how Im wrong

if he didnt follow orders he is imprisoned. If he does follow orders he is imprisoned. Whats the best option?

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Ilishe
05/24/22 4:53:07 AM
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Kloe_Rinz posted...
enemy combatant "just following orders"
a literal invader and killer of innocents

How many American soldiers were put on trial for war crimes over the last 70 years?

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Kloe_Rinz
05/24/22 4:53:41 AM
#25:


Ilishe posted...
How many American soldiers were put on trial for war crimes over the last 70 years?
not enough
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FunkyCat
05/24/22 4:55:22 AM
#26:


ZeroV2 posted...
explain how Im wrong

if he didnt follow orders he is imprisoned. If he does follow orders he is imprisoned. Whats the best option?
Let us know when you've seen the video of what he did and if you still support the monster .

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ZeroV2
05/24/22 4:58:02 AM
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FunkyCat posted...
Let us know when you've seen the video of what he did and if you still support the monster .
I got it he shot an Innocent old man in the head, I dont really need to see the video and Im not supporting him. I said he had an unfortunate choice to make and I feel bad for him. Maybe try seething a little less

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nexigrams
05/24/22 4:59:50 AM
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The whole thing makes me really uncomfortable. I get that Ukraine has the high moral ground here and everything, but something about having this big showy war crime trial during active hostilities seems like a real bad precedent to me. Russia's gonna start doing it too, and since they have no standing on any moral ground whatsoever, you can bet it's all gonna be trumped up nothing charges. And then you got this arms race of show trials for the international media, and when it's all said and done, the actual war crimes tribunals that would do good for the world to see (Putin, the oligarchs, etc.) are going to be taken a whole hell of a lot less seriously.

idk either way it's just totally unnecessary. You're already winning the court of public opinion. Just go with the Geneva Conventions recommendations of waiting until the war is over for this.

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greyfox747
05/24/22 5:09:01 AM
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So how did you spent your Monday night?
oh, nothing too special, just trolled a bunch about war crimes online, you know, the usual

What made you into this pathetic of a person

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Kloe_Rinz
05/24/22 5:11:38 AM
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ZeroV2 posted...
I got it he shot an Innocent old man in the head, I dont really need to see the video and Im not supporting him. I said he had an unfortunate choice to make and I feel bad for him. Maybe try seething a little less
you were literally asking "whats the correct choice between following orders and killing an innocent man, or not killing an innocent man"
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szunega
05/24/22 5:15:20 AM
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FunkyCat posted...
Of course someone on CE defends the fucking war criminal


It's the internet. If something is said either a troll will respond or an actual ignorant/crazy person will respond.

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ZeroV2
05/24/22 5:15:52 AM
#32:


greyfox747 posted...
So how did you spent your Monday night?
oh, nothing too special, just trolled a bunch about war crimes online, you know, the usual

What made you into this pathetic of a person
its not trolling to ask for empathy lol

isnt prison supposed to be for rehabilitation?

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pogo_rabid
05/24/22 5:16:51 AM
#33:


ZeroV2 posted...
I got it he shot an Innocent old man in the head, I dont really need to see the video and Im not supporting him. I said he had an unfortunate choice to make and I feel bad for him. Maybe try seething a little less
He didn't just shoot an innocent old man in the back of the head. He had a full conversation with him after calling him over. Waited for the guy to start walking away after the conversation ended, and shot in the back while he was walking away. That's cold blooded murder.

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Turtlebread
05/24/22 5:26:39 AM
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Why havent you guys blocked that codeposting joke account

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spikethedevil
05/24/22 5:46:17 AM
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The mods are still asleep I guess.

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JE19426
05/24/22 6:13:10 AM
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Kloe_Rinz posted...
Only life in prison? Hes an enemy combatant

I think life in prison is the worse thing they can do, without violating the Geneva Convention.

ZeroV2 posted...
if he didnt follow orders he is imprisoned. If he does follow orders he is imprisoned. Whats the best option?

Don't murder an innocent person. It seems very obvious to me. If your options are "murder an innocent person and go to jail for life" and "don't murder an innocent person and go to jail for life" the second option is far better.
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Slayer_22
05/24/22 7:16:26 AM
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ZeroV2 posted...
thats literally war.
War is not killing civilians. That is 'literally' a war crime. Are you saying war is killing civilians?

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Sheiky-Baby
05/24/22 7:51:13 AM
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Could have avoided this just playing CoD at home.

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