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UnfairRepresent 05/19/22 5:58:20 AM #1:	Sure if they're in the worst parts of New York or some major crime ridden city it's more like TV. But for most of the country cops don't spend their days running down armed crooks and getting in fights and exciting car chases with gangs. It's lots of just bumming around. Dealing with obnoxious teenagers, drunks, druggies, domestic disputes, people screaming at you. I've got friends in the police and man I'd get so fed up if I had to their jobs. Especially in the UK where 70% of their day is just dealing with drunk people. Often the same drunk people over and over. It's just so juvenile and awkward. Had one the other day who was drunk and screaming around in the streets (This was like 11AM) but refused to go home so after ages talking to him my friend had to arrest him but then he kept trying to smash his head into the concrete floor for no reason so they had to hold him up but then he kept trying to kick them in the legs but they don't carry leg cuffs so they had to awkwardly hold him down to the floor while holding up his upperbody and putting clothes down so he couldn't smash his own head as they waited for the van to come to take him away. And you're just sitting there talking about the soccerball while this obnoxious drunk guy is screaming profanities and that he is going to kill their kids and kicking and trying to hurt himself and you realize this is just like the 2nd hour of their day. In 2 hours it's going to be someone else exactly the same and this evening it's gonna be a wife and husband yelling at each other over pancakes. I wouldn't want to deal with this every day. It's about as graceful as Obelix eating wild boar. It's really not exciting stuff. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:965147020] in I think pe... [t:80026368]...</cite> <quote>Sure if they're in the worst parts of New York or some major crime ridden city it's more like TV. But for most of the country cops don't spend their days running down armed crooks and getting in fights and exciting car chases with gangs. It's lots of just bumming around. Dealing with obnoxious teenagers, drunks, druggies, domestic disputes, people screaming at you. I've got friends in the police and man I'd get so fed up if I had to their jobs. Especially in the UK where 70% of their day is just dealing with drunk people. Often the same drunk people over and over. It's just so juvenile and awkward. Had one the other day who was drunk and screaming around in the streets (This was like 11AM) but refused to go home so after ages talking to him my friend had to arrest him but then he kept trying to smash his head into the concrete floor for no reason so they had to hold him up but then he kept trying to kick them in the legs but they don't carry leg cuffs so they had to awkwardly hold him down to the floor while holding up his upperbody and putting clothes down so he couldn't smash his own head as they waited for the van to come to take him away. And you're just sitting there talking about the soccerball while this obnoxious drunk guy is screaming profanities and that he is going to kill their kids and kicking and trying to hurt himself and you realize this is just like the 2nd hour of their day. In 2 hours it's going to be someone else exactly the same and this evening it's gonna be a wife and husband yelling at each other over pancakes. I wouldn't want to deal with this every day. It's about as graceful as Obelix eating wild boar. It's really not exciting stuff. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 05/19/22 5:59:30 AM #2:	Maybe, but that doesn't justify them acting like US cops do. Mind you, the other extreme like in NZ (where they're way too fucking soft on serious crime, though have it about right for minor stuff) isn't exactly ideal either. --- Trumble 7 8700X \| 32GB DDR-Trumble RAM \| 512GB TSD (Trumble-State Drive) \| Trumble 4080 Tr <cite>Trumble posted [p:965147027] in I think pe... [t:80026368]...</cite> <quote>Maybe, but that doesn't justify them acting like US cops do. Mind you, the other extreme like in NZ (where they're way too fucking soft on serious crime, though have it about right for minor stuff) isn't exactly ideal either. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
fhqwhgads 05/19/22 6:00:08 AM #3:	Don't like it? Don't be a cop. It's that simple. --- Everybody to the Limit you can't bxzwlads the fhqwhgads~spudger <cite>fhqwhgads posted [p:965147033] in I think pe... [t:80026368]...</cite> <quote>Don't like it? Don't be a cop. It's that simple. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 05/19/22 6:02:24 AM #4:	I can't speak on UK cops but American cops need to stop killing people <cite>Zikten posted [p:965147046] in I think pe... [t:80026368]...</cite> <quote>I can't speak on UK cops but American cops need to stop killing people</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 05/19/22 6:03:39 AM #5:	Zikten posted... I can't speak on UK cops but American cops need to stop killing people https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJIfeinL2eI --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:965147057] in I think pe... [t:80026368]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite> <quote>I can't speak on UK cops but American cops need to stop killing people</quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJIfeinL2eI </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lorenzo_2003 05/19/22 6:16:27 AM #6:	fhqwhgads posted... Don't like it? Don't be a cop. It's that simple. That is true. A lot of them should never have gone into the profession. That is the dilemma for society, though. I imagine its difficult to find good candidates because a lot of people dont want to do that kind of job and the ones who would fit well could probably find a less stressful job or at least one with better pay. I will add that its hilarious reading most of CEs responses about the police. Theyre quick to criticize, which is usually fair, but they offer no real solutions. Honestly, I think most of CE, if they actually did law enforcement, would get themselves killed, kill a citizen despite saying they wouldnt, or theyd get their partner killed. Yeah, Id bet on it. --- ... <cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted [p:965147139] in I think pe... [t:80026368]...</cite> <quote>fhqwhgads posted... </cite> <quote>Don't like it? Don't be a cop. It's that simple.</quote> That is true. A lot of them should never have gone into the profession. That is the dilemma for society, though. I imagine its difficult to find good candidates because a lot of people dont want to do that kind of job and the ones who would fit well could probably find a less stressful job or at least one with better pay. I will add that its hilarious reading most of CEs responses about the police. Theyre quick to criticize, which is usually fair, but they offer no real solutions. Honestly, I think most of CE, if they actually did law enforcement, would get themselves killed, kill a citizen despite saying they wouldnt, or theyd get their partner killed. Yeah, Id bet on it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 05/19/22 6:23:04 AM #7:	Lorenzo_2003 posted... That is the dilemma for society, though. I imagine its difficult to find good candidates because a lot of people dont want to do that kind of job and the ones who would fit well could probably find a less stressful job or at least one with better pay This is my concern Cops are absolutely not paid enough and it takes years of work to become one. Then you wonder why the standards are low. Cops should be paid so much more than they are. That would cripple the power of police unions and corruptions and civil forefeiture overnight and lead to a higher class of police. Defund the police has it totally wrong. Police don't need fucking tanks, they need to know they can pay their morgage and buy clothes for their snot nosed kid. If they can't, they're not going to be a cop and you end up with the Postal Dude in uniform. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:965147193] in I think pe... [t:80026368]...</cite> <quote>Lorenzo_2003 posted... </cite> <quote> That is the dilemma for society, though. I imagine its difficult to find good candidates because a lot of people dont want to do that kind of job and the ones who would fit well could probably find a less stressful job or at least one with better pay</quote>This is my concern Cops are absolutely not paid enough and it takes years of work to become one. Then you wonder why the standards are low. Cops should be paid so much more than they are. That would cripple the power of police unions and corruptions and civil forefeiture overnight and lead to a higher class of police. Defund the police has it totally wrong. Police don't need fucking tanks, they need to know they can pay their morgage and buy clothes for their snot nosed kid. If they can't, they're not going to be a cop and you end up with the Postal Dude in uniform. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pegusus123456 05/19/22 6:25:20 AM #8:	Lorenzo_2003 posted... Theyre quick to criticize, which is usually fair, but they offer no real solutions. Zikten offered one a few posts before yours. --- http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur <cite>pegusus123456 posted [p:965147213] in I think pe... [t:80026368]...</cite> <quote>Lorenzo_2003 posted... </cite> <quote>Theyre quick to criticize, which is usually fair, but they offer no real solutions.</quote>Zikten offered one a few posts before yours. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 05/19/22 6:28:22 AM #9:	pegusus123456 posted... Zikten offered one a few posts before yours. Not really. He didn't give any suggestions of what ways to reduce the amount of police killings. Such as paying them more, better training, crippling of police unions etc. "Don't do bad stuff." isn't a solution. It's just rhetoric. Are you a believer in the value of "Make America Great Again"? I didn't think so. it's just a nonstatement. No one is like "Oh boy let's make America shit and murder some people." it's about practical solutions to get out of the mess that has been created by centuries of corrupt mismanagement. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:965147239] in I think pe... [t:80026368]...</cite> <quote>pegusus123456 posted... </cite> <quote>Zikten offered one a few posts before yours.</quote>Not really. He didn't give any suggestions of what ways to reduce the amount of police killings. Such as paying them more, better training, crippling of police unions etc. "Don't do bad stuff." isn't a solution. It's just rhetoric. Are you a believer in the value of "Make America Great Again"? I didn't think so. it's just a nonstatement. No one is like "Oh boy let's make America shit and murder some people." it's about practical solutions to get out of the mess that has been created by centuries of corrupt mismanagement. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pegusus123456 05/19/22 6:29:42 AM #10:	UnfairRepresent posted... No one is like "Oh boy let's make America shit and murder some people." Except cops apparently. --- http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur <cite>pegusus123456 posted [p:965147255] in I think pe... [t:80026368]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>No one is like "Oh boy let's make America shit and murder some people."</quote>Except cops apparently. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lorenzo_2003 05/19/22 6:34:46 AM #11:	pegusus123456 posted... Zikten offered one a few posts before yours. No, that was just a general statement that most reasonable people would agree with anyway. I said real solutions. You know, something that accounts for resources, the abundance of personally owned firearms in the nation, mental health response, those sorts of things. --- ... <cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted [p:965147301] in I think pe... [t:80026368]...</cite> <quote>pegusus123456 posted... </cite> <quote>Zikten offered one a few posts before yours.</quote> No, that was just a general statement that most reasonable people would agree with anyway. I said real solutions. You know, something that accounts for resources, the abundance of personally owned firearms in the nation, mental health response, those sorts of things. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pegusus123456 05/19/22 6:35:36 AM #12:	Lorenzo_2003 posted... No, that was just a general statement that most reasonable people would agree with anyway. pegusus123456 posted... Except cops apparently. --- http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur <cite>pegusus123456 posted [p:965147311] in I think pe... [t:80026368]...</cite> <quote>Lorenzo_2003 posted... </cite> <quote> No, that was just a general statement that most reasonable people would agree with anyway.</quote> pegusus123456 posted... </cite> <quote>Except cops apparently.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 05/19/22 6:37:39 AM #13:	You're kinda proving his point about a lot of anger but a complete inability to suggest soltuions --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:965147330] in I think pe... [t:80026368]...</cite> <quote>You're kinda proving his point about a lot of anger but a complete inability to suggest soltuions </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cuttin_in_farm 05/19/22 6:41:27 AM #14:	UnfairRepresent posted... "Don't do bad stuff." isn't a solution. It's just rhetoric. Itd be a start given how some are trained: https://youtu.be/HVqVYNIA8hE --- A show of kindness may not do much help, but a show of cruelty may do much harm. <cite>cuttin_in_farm posted [p:965147359] in I think pe... [t:80026368]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>"Don't do bad stuff." isn't a solution. It's just rhetoric.</quote> Itd be a start given how some are trained: https://youtu.be/HVqVYNIA8hE </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pegusus123456 05/19/22 6:47:13 AM #15:	UnfairRepresent posted... You're kinda proving his point about a lot of anger but a complete inability to suggest soltuions I think this video provides some good advice for police officers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJF-wVW1F2o --- http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur <cite>pegusus123456 posted [p:965147414] in I think pe... [t:80026368]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>You're kinda proving his point about a lot of anger but a complete inability to suggest soltuions</quote>I think this video provides some good advice for police officers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJF-wVW1F2o </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
emblem boy 05/19/22 6:50:12 AM #16:	I have a friend who's a cop and after speaking to him these past couple years...he needs to quit. The job is honestly radicalizing (not like white supremacist radicalization!) him in a way. The stress of the job combined with the perception that he has no one( management and society) backing him up, is leading him to some bad opinions regarding people and crime. Thankfully he is considering leaving, but I'm worried it's too late. I'll agree that cops need more social and financial support so that we can hire and keep the best possible. And as much as I want to say to him "if you can't handle the criticism and the realities of the job, you shouldn't be a cop", I also know that's just not how most people operate. Anyway, point is, I agree that good policing is a necessity and it can be very hard. It's also a public facing job and when cops fuck up, they shouldn't be isolated from criticism. They aren't going to get the same protections as other jobs do and in some cases, they actually get more protection than they should have. But they also need to do much better. No one likes criticism when they do their jobs...but fuck, your job is important so yes, people should treat your job differently. --- http://avatar.xboxlive.com/avatar/emblem%20boy/avatar-body.png haters gonna hate <cite>emblem boy posted [p:965147445] in I think pe... [t:80026368]...</cite> <quote>I have a friend who's a cop and after speaking to him these past couple years...he needs to quit. The job is honestly radicalizing (not like white supremacist radicalization!) him in a way. The stress of the job combined with the perception that he has no one( management and society) backing him up, is leading him to some bad opinions regarding people and crime. Thankfully he is considering leaving, but I'm worried it's too late. I'll agree that cops need more social and financial support so that we can hire and keep the best possible. And as much as I want to say to him "if you can't handle the criticism and the realities of the job, you shouldn't be a cop", I also know that's just not how most people operate. Anyway, point is, I agree that good policing is a necessity and it can be very hard. It's also a public facing job and when cops fuck up, they shouldn't be isolated from criticism. They aren't going to get the same protections as other jobs do and in some cases, they actually get more protection than they should have. But they also need to do much better. No one likes criticism when they do their jobs...but fuck, your job is important so yes, people should treat your job differently. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_Yahtz09 05/19/22 7:07:11 AM #17:	Lorenzo_2003 posted... I will add that its hilarious reading most of CEs responses about the police. Theyre quick to criticize, which is usually fair, but they offer no real solutions. Whats the point of people coming up with solutions when they have no power of implementing them? Do you think there are people in power pouring over gamefaqs looking for new policy ideas? Not offering a solution does not make the criticism any less accurate. --- Arkansas Razorbacks \|\| Oklahoma City Thunder \|\| Cleveland Sports <cite>The_Yahtz09 posted [p:965147598] in I think pe... [t:80026368]...</cite> <quote>Lorenzo_2003 posted... </cite> <quote>I will add that its hilarious reading most of CEs responses about the police. Theyre quick to criticize, which is usually fair, but they offer no real solutions.</quote>Whats the point of people coming up with solutions when they have no power of implementing them? Do you think there are people in power pouring over gamefaqs looking for new policy ideas? Not offering a solution does not make the criticism any less accurate. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lorenzo_2003 05/19/22 7:20:18 AM #18:	The_Yahtz09 posted... Whats the point of people coming up with solutions when they have no power of implementing them? Do you think there are people in power pouring over gamefaqs looking for new policy ideas? Not offering a solution does not make the criticism any less accurate. Sure, most of us are just here for the entertainment and once in a while the topics offer some mental exercise. I get it. On the other hand, most members are old enough to vote and a few engage in activism or awareness promotion. Hell we could even run for office one day or simply be in a position of authority in some of these organizations. Anyway, when were discussing these important issues, it really rings hollow when all thats offered is criticism. Again, the criticism could be and often is valid. But no solutions? Thats just a misery loves company kinda deal. --- ... <cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted [p:965147715] in I think pe... [t:80026368]...</cite> <quote>The_Yahtz09 posted... </cite> <quote>Whats the point of people coming up with solutions when they have no power of implementing them? Do you think there are people in power pouring over gamefaqs looking for new policy ideas? Not offering a solution does not make the criticism any less accurate.</quote> Sure, most of us are just here for the entertainment and once in a while the topics offer some mental exercise. I get it. On the other hand, most members are old enough to vote and a few engage in activism or awareness promotion. Hell we could even run for office one day or simply be in a position of authority in some of these organizations. Anyway, when were discussing these important issues, it really rings hollow when all thats offered is criticism. Again, the criticism could be and often is valid. But no solutions? Thats just a misery loves company kinda deal. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sufferedphoneix 05/19/22 7:23:31 AM #19:	UnfairRepresent posted... This is my concern Cops are absolutely not paid enough and it takes years of work to become one. Then you wonder why the standards are low. Cops should be paid so much more than they are. That would cripple the power of police unions and corruptions and civil forefeiture overnight and lead to a higher class of police. Defund the police has it totally wrong. Police don't need fucking tanks, they need to know they can pay their morgage and buy clothes for their snot nosed kid. If they can't, they're not going to be a cop and you end up with the Postal Dude in uniform. Yeah without better pay you just attract people that want the power/authority. --- Cid- "looks like that overgrown lobster just got served!" Bartz-"with cheese biscuts AND mashed potatoes!" <cite>Sufferedphoneix posted [p:965147744] in I think pe... [t:80026368]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>This is my concern Cops are absolutely not paid enough and it takes years of work to become one. Then you wonder why the standards are low. Cops should be paid so much more than they are. That would cripple the power of police unions and corruptions and civil forefeiture overnight and lead to a higher class of police. Defund the police has it totally wrong. Police don't need fucking tanks, they need to know they can pay their morgage and buy clothes for their snot nosed kid. If they can't, they're not going to be a cop and you end up with the Postal Dude in uniform.</quote> Yeah without better pay you just attract people that want the power/authority. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RiKuToTheMiGhtY 05/19/22 7:40:38 AM #20:	The police know what the job entails, if that is too much for them then choose a different career. --- doa-plus.com - We Press Forward. . . By Pressing Back. <cite>RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted [p:965147908] in I think pe... [t:80026368]...</cite> <quote>The police know what the job entails, if that is too much for them then choose a different career. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhioState82 05/19/22 7:57:31 AM #21:	I imagine the consistent Internet suggestion of "just shoot the gun/knife out of the suspect's hand!" would be a constant source of irritation. <cite>OhioState82 posted [p:965148072] in I think pe... [t:80026368]...</cite> <quote>I imagine the consistent Internet suggestion of "just shoot the gun/knife out of the suspect's hand!" would be a constant source of irritation. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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