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AmishDoinks420
05/17/22 10:48:04 AM
#203:


RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...
This is not about empathy it is kill the enemy ok but do not make it personal for a non combatant. Doing shit like this is how you create a new problem because some peoples loved ones will not only be upset but they will decide to join the fight because you just pissed them off and mocked them.

Very often when this happens the propaganda this hurt person creates can shift other people from indifferent or sympathetic to fuck those people, they do deserve to be invaded.

This one random asshole could have just given the russian invasion flipped the script moment NOT in Ukraines favor.
Youre absolutely right.

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DeadBankerDream
05/17/22 10:48:56 AM
#205:


AmishDoinks420 posted...
A lot of Russian soldiers arent fighting of their own free will
It's really not the job of Ukrainian soldiers to know or care about that.

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SergeantGander
05/17/22 10:49:40 AM
#206:


DeadBankerDream posted...
It's incredibly absurd and armchair-y to expect Ukrainian soldiers on the ground to make the intellectual distinction between the kabal of people at the top ordering the invasion of Ukraine and the Russian soldiery carrying out said invasion.

Okay, maybe you forgot what this topic was about.

A Ukrainian solider took a dead Russian soldiers phone and called his GF to mock her over her dead significant other.

I'm in no way criticizing the Ukrainian soldier for defending his homeland against the invading forces. Taking his cell phone to mock a mourning woman in another country...that is just disgusting.

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Haha yea I'm laughing right alongside you. Very funny! I'm not sure where I was acting "high and mighty", I was just pointing out the fact that people itt seem incapable of considering the fact that the GF of this dead soldier does not need to be mocked as she mourns her loss.

We have no idea who he was or what his situation was. Be as upset as you want with Russia and their higher ups, but to mock someone in their time of mourning is just gross.

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DeadBankerDream
05/17/22 10:51:50 AM
#207:


SergeantGander posted...
I'm in no way criticizing the Ukrainian soldier for defending his homeland against the invading forces. Taking his cell phone to mock a mourning woman in another country...that is just disgusting.
Definitely a dick move, yeah.

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Rayman2943
05/17/22 10:52:36 AM
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My dude there's no excuse for certain actions


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SergeantGander
05/17/22 10:55:53 AM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
Definitely a dick move, yeah.

That's all I'm really trying to say here. War is ugly enough as it is and we have no way to know how or why people ended up in the conflict.

Meanwhile everyone acting like this woman is subhuman and deserves it because of her nationality is pretty gross.

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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
05/17/22 10:56:15 AM
#211:


Ukraine does NOT deserve invasion and they are right to fight against Russian invaders but things like this can have a big impact.

Pray this one shithead ukraine soldier gets public punishment for this and the girlfriend of the russian soldier is accepting of said punishment and not working her way to roaring rampage of revenge mode.

I doubt anyone would like if Russia as a whole united to back this invasion and this woman if angry enough by this incident could make a lot of trouble for understandable reasons.

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HagenEx
05/17/22 10:56:35 AM
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This topic is fucking gold haha.

Never change, CE. I fucking love you guys.

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AmishDoinks420
05/17/22 10:59:20 AM
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How are you this hung up that I dont want to entertain your black and white hate boner.

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Turtlebread
05/17/22 11:02:58 AM
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While the invaders are trying to rape and murder their way across Ukraine its funny that this one incident generated so much controversy here

boo hoo they made fun of her butcher of bucha, its not even a drop in the ocean

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Mist_Turnips
05/17/22 11:04:07 AM
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She's not going to sleep with you white knights, just sayin.

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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
05/17/22 11:15:26 AM
#217:


Turtlebread posted...
While the invaders are trying to rape and murder their way across Ukraine its funny that this one incident generated so much controversy here

boo hoo they made fun of her butcher of bucha, its not even a drop in the ocean
No one is saying this is not happening and that it is not terrible.

My point is that this idiot ukraine soldier could have created a huge problem just because he wanted to mock an enemys loved one just to be cruel. Small stuff like this can have big consequences is my point and history supports this too.

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Turtlebread
05/17/22 11:27:28 AM
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He could have also made a huge problem when Ruski got sent home in a body bag

Words are words, hasnt being on the internet taught you anything?

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AmishDoinks420
05/17/22 11:34:30 AM
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Im not being mocked by anyone but you, and I really couldnt care any less. What flavor of wings should I order?

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Lorenzo_2003
05/17/22 11:44:30 AM
#223:


Turtlebread posted...
Words are words, hasnt being on the internet taught you anything?

Im not sure we can really say thats true anymore when we live in a world where saying something like the N-word or misgendering someone is enough to create a social uproar and possibly start physical fights between strangers.

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Turtlebread
05/17/22 11:46:47 AM
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Lorenzo_2003 posted...
Im not sure we can really say thats true anymore when we live in a world where saying something like the N-word or misgendering someone is enough to create a social uproar and possibly start physical fights between strangers.

oh no what if they cancel his Twitter


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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
05/17/22 11:58:15 AM
#227:


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When people go that extra mile to make it personal for a non combatant no good ever comes from it. You say the russians are to blame for his attitude and that likely is the case but this one person chose to go out of his way to mock this woman. People who did this and similar shit in the past have only hurt themselves and brought their own defeat or their side lost due to one persons bad choice.

If there is a huge push from Russia and a bunch of people use this as a rallying call to support the invasion then Ukraine literally know it was one idiot soldier to blame.

The lesson that seems to never be learned is this: do not make a war personal, do not mock an enemys loved one with their corpse or taunt them , do not give the non combatants reason to stop sitting on the sidelines and a reason to enter a war.

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Lorenzo_2003
05/17/22 12:00:49 PM
#229:


Turtlebread posted...
oh no what if they cancel his Twitter

Oh, Im not talking about the Ukrainian soldier, and Im somewhat sure you know that.


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fhqwhgads
05/17/22 12:02:26 PM
#230:


EmbraceOfDeath posted...
It's really shitty, and it's no surprise that certain people here are unwilling to just condemn it. It doesn't mean you don't support Ukraine or you support Russia.


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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
05/17/22 12:13:01 PM
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Also last I heard the people aka the civilians and non combatants of Russia are against this invasion and do not support Putins actions.

Why the hell is this one Ukraine soldier trying to undermine this ??

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Collat
05/17/22 12:19:32 PM
#234:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
A step too far? Sure. But that soldier didn't have to die. He could have surrendered like many others have. Ultimately, every invading Russian soldier has a choice.
I don't think he could have. Unless that dude was lying, the Russian got lost and died in the woods.

AmishDoinks420 posted...
A lot of Russian soldiers arent fighting of their own free will,
You guys are really desperate to absolve them of all guilt.

They aren't slaves wearing bomb collars.
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
05/17/22 12:22:31 PM
#235:


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History is filled with wars that turned personal because of idiots mocking a loved one of a non combatant. Turning non combatants into angry pissed off soldiers who now want to attack when they were against it before is how you lose wars.

Ukraine does not need people who support them in Russia deciding that no fuck those assholes due to this guys actions and giving support to Putin. The last thing anyone in Ukraine should want is a united Russia all in for this invasion with women and children deciding to support Putin.

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OmegaShinkai
05/17/22 12:30:06 PM
#236:


RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...
Ukraine does not need people who support them in Russia deciding that no fuck those assholes due to this guys actions and giving support to Putin.
It's already illegal to speak out against the war in Russia and the Kremlin stance is that Russia is fighting a clean war, Bucha was a psyop with crisis actors, and every dead civilian was killed by Ukrainian hands. At this point it won't even make a difference.
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David1988
05/17/22 12:32:11 PM
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Christ how did this topic get over 200 posts? War can bring out the worst in humanity from
both sides, even the side that wasnt initially the aggressor, vengeance can be extraordinarily cruel, honestly the text message probably isnt even close to the worst thing soldiers on both sides of the war have been doing. Not everything has to be viewed from the narrow minded lens of whether someone is defending/supporting a side of a conflict, I feel like this sort of infantile mindset unnecessarily leads to useless arguments and bickering, that or some people just have anger issues on here

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WarfireX
05/17/22 12:44:51 PM
#239:


"It is you who has an ass where his head should be!"

I shouldn't have laughed at this exchange.

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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
05/17/22 1:22:18 PM
#240:


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History has shown this never ends well for the side that taunted the loved ones. Also I do not see how you cant condemn this soldier for being a true piece of shit.

Ukraine already has literal neo nazis people are turning a blind eye to when they have killed a black college student. Supporting Ukraine does not mean supporting these evil people including the shit stain making the phone call.

Right now the best thing Ukraine can do is make an example out of this guy and how this is completely unacceptable.

If I was Putin this phone call soldier would not only be used for propaganda but a huge show of support would be given to this woman and posing the question how would you feel if the enemy did this to you about your father/brother/son/uncle ?!

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holy_bolt
05/17/22 1:26:30 PM
#241:


I'm extremely ok with this. Psychological warfare is part of warfare, and creating backlash against Putin inside Russia is a valid strategy. Maybe dude could have been more polite about it but

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OmegaShinkai
05/17/22 1:29:00 PM
#242:


RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...
If I was Putin this phone call soldier would not only be used for propaganda but a huge show of support would be given to this woman and posing the question how would you feel if the enemy did this to you about your father/brother/son/uncle ?!
Yeah I'm sure this will be the tipping point for propaganda and not "every Ukrainian is a Nazi, they're raping and murdering their own civilians to blame Russia and every Russian soldier is a gentle soul trying to liberate this poor country manipulated by the west"
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
05/17/22 1:37:45 PM
#243:


holy_bolt posted...
I'm extremely ok with this. Psychological warfare is part of warfare, and creating backlash against Putin inside Russia is a valid strategy. Maybe dude could have been more polite about it but
This does not hurt russia or Putin at all, all this can do is gain Putin support and make Ukraine look like evil cruel soldiers who deserve no mercy.

How in the world do you think this is creating backlash against Putin ?

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Gobstoppers12
05/17/22 1:48:41 PM
#244:


Collat posted...
I don't think he could have
He could have surrendered months ago is my point. This war has been going on a long time. Every Russian soldier has a choice.

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ThePrinceFish
05/17/22 1:49:35 PM
#245:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
He could have surrendered months ago is my point. This war has been going on a long time. Every Russian soldier has a choice.
That seems irrelevant to the interaction between this Ukrainian soldier and the Russian civilian.

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Gobstoppers12
05/17/22 1:50:15 PM
#246:


ThePrinceFish posted...
That seems irrelevant to the interaction between this Ukrainian soldier and the Russian civilian.
If the soldier had surrendered a long time ago he must likely wouldn't be dead.

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ThePrinceFish
05/17/22 1:51:50 PM
#247:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
If the soldier had surrendered a long time ago he must likely wouldn't be dead.
Right. So he got what was coming to him. His punishment has been delivered. That's the end of that.

Which is why it is unnecessary and cruel to call his loved ones and taunt them about it.

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DeadBankerDream
05/17/22 1:53:42 PM
#248:


Gobstop is going down a path of complete nonsense to justify himself.

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Gobstoppers12
05/17/22 1:56:42 PM
#249:


ThePrinceFish posted...
Right. So he got what was coming to him
Yes.

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dj1200
05/17/22 1:58:32 PM
#250:


war is hell

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A_Good_Boy
05/17/22 2:01:08 PM
#251:


RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...
This does not hurt russia or Putin at all, all this can do is gain Putin support and make Ukraine look like evil cruel soldiers who deserve no mercy.

How in the world do you think this is creating backlash against Putin ?
Lol who's suddenly up and supporting Russia cause of this phone call? If after everything you've heard about Russia in this war you end up supporting them because of this then you've just been a shy nascent supporter the whole entire time anyways. Sorta like how people "suddenly" became flag waving nazis cause people on Twitter called their favorite at-right shit head a white supremacist.

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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
05/17/22 2:05:42 PM
#252:


A_Good_Boy posted...
Lol who's suddenly up and supporting Russia cause of this phone call? If after everything you've heard about Russia in this war you end up supporting them because of this then you've just been a shy nascent supporter the whole entire time anyways. Sorta like how people "suddenly" became flag waving nazis cause people on Twitter called their favorite at-right shit head a white supremacist.
I have said that what is happening in Ukraine is wrong.

My post is stating that this would be used as pro russia propaganda to the russian people by Putin as it makes Ukraine look bad. I have been saying that this could push non combatants to be active in the war.

Looking at how this could bite Ukraine hard in the ass is not being pro russia invasion.

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