Current Events > Why was sonic heros never re released

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Kinda wanted to replay it but I found out they are locked to the Xbox ps2 GC era wtf

Because it's the worst game in the series. At least 06 and Boom were funny in how broken they were.

It got caught up in the Ken Penders lawsuit. Sega probably buried it forever.

https://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Ken_Penders%27_legal_cases
As per the legal settlement of the case, new and increased mandates from Sega were put into effect in any and all Sonic the Hedgehog related contents, including (but not limited to): video games, television series, films, toys, and even comic books. For Archie Comics' Sonic the Hedgehog comic series specifically, as relevant to the legal case, the following mandates in effect were (but possibly not limited to) as follows:

• Sega-specific original characters were not permitted familial relationships unless already established (like Cream and Vanilla) with some limited exceptions (eg. Uncle Chuck). ACP-exclusive characters(Sally, Rotor, Bunnie, Antoine) were permitted, however.
• Use of Penders' characters or any of his content from the Pre-Super Genesis Wave was forbidden (although settlement granted ACP legal use of his creations under limited conditions, reasons for not doing so are not disclosed to the public by either ACP or Sega Inc. as of this time).
• Content from the following Sonic games were not permissible:
• Metal Overlord from Sonic Heroes.
• Black Doom from Shadow the Hedgehog.
• All characters and content (with the exception of original Sega characters) from Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood.

Ah Ken Penders, the garbage that refuses to get taken out.

s0nicfan posted...

Black Doom from Shadow the Hedgehog.

Oh so I'm also def not getting a Shadow the Hedgehog re release Fuck this dude

Lord_Shadow posted...

Oh so I'm also def not getting a Shadow the Hedgehog re release Fuck this dude

The list in my link is actually much longer than what I quoted, so there's plenty more you'll never see again thanks to Penders.

That list is talking about what the comics aren't allowed to do, not the games.

because it sucked. not a worthy successor to adventure 1 and 2

pokedude900 posted...

That list is talking about what the comics aren't allowed to do, not the games.

I'm working under the assumption that Sega isn't going to risk another lawsuit for using a character in a game that they wouldn't allow in the comics. Especially since they seemed keen to nuke their own continuity and start fresh anyway.

Game honestly isnt as good as you remember I played it again recently and I found it more frustrating than fun tbh. Or maybe its just that my patience has gone way down over the years lol.

If Nintendo were smart they would release remastered GameCube consoles.

s0nicfan posted...

I'm working under the assumption that Sega isn't going to risk another lawsuit for using a character in a game that they wouldn't allow in the comics. Especially since they seemed keen to nuke their own continuity and start fresh anyway.

Did Ken Penders create Black Doom or Metal Overlord? I don't see anything on his or their pages suggesting it.

I loved Adventure 1 & 2 and was hyped for Heroes. That game came out when I was in junior high, so I was definitely in the target audience. One of the biggest disappointments I had ever played. I didnt bother to finish it. I was so stoked to have Sonic on Xbox, too.

Sonic was never good

pokedude900 posted...

Did Ken Penders create Black Doom or Metal Overlord? I don't see anything on his or their pages suggesting it.

From the link above, but also in the part I quoted:
As per the legal settlement of the case, new and increased mandates from Sega were put into effect in any and all Sonic the Hedgehog related contents, including (but not limited to): video games, television series, films, toys, and even comic books. For Archie Comics' Sonic the Hedgehog comic series specifically, as relevant to the legal case, the following mandates in effect were (but possibly not limited to) as follows:

Why do you keep ignoring the most important part of that paragraph?

For Archie Comics' Sonic the Hedgehog comic series specifically, as relevant to the legal case, the following mandates in effect were (but possibly not limited to)

I asked you a question. Did Ken Penders create Black Doom or Metal Overlord? If he didn't, then this is completely irrelevant to those games getting re-released.

ellis123 posted...

Ah Ken Penders, the garbage that refuses to get taken out.

I heard he was looking into suing over the Sonic movie even stating that Knuckles has a father.

pokedude900 posted...

Why do you keep ignoring the most important part of that paragraph?

For Archie Comics' Sonic the Hedgehog comic series specifically, as relevant to the legal case, the following mandates in effect were (but possibly not limited to)

I asked you a question. Did Ken Penders create Black Doom or Metal Overlord? If he didn't, then this is completely irrelevant to those games getting re-released.

Apparently part of the Penders suit arguing that Black Doom was a stolen design. So he didn't create black doom, but he did claim copyright theft over the character. If you want to interpret that in conjunction with Sega blacklisting the character from the comics in some way to mean Sega could eventually re-release those games then go right ahead, but I won't hold my breath over it.