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Fastbreak
05/04/22 8:19:37 PM
#301:


htaeD posted...
But I came up with it on my own too!
<.<

I was reading you more scum today Death

And then you did the face

Kill death tbh

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Fastbreak
05/04/22 8:22:57 PM
#302:


Obellisk posted...
seeing that plum spent points making himself godfather night 1 really makes me put more question into Scare killing the cop day 2.

I realize there is clear direction today now but still do not want him being taken off the list.


Shouldn't it be the opposite? If 1/4 the team Scans town, I have even less fear of Tidus the cop.

Unrelated, and red may have said this, but plum would have had to buy it night 1 because there is no point buying it after day 2

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Fastbreak
05/04/22 8:24:02 PM
#303:


htaeD posted...
I wonder if it would be worth it to mass 'I did or didnt save anyone last night'

Jesus death for real

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changmas
05/04/22 8:25:12 PM
#304:


Fastbreak posted...
Shouldn't it be the opposite? If 1/4 the team Scans town, I have even less fear of Tidus the cop.

Unrelated, and red may have said this, but plum would have had to buy it night 1 because there is no point buying it after day 2

Chris told us he bought it n1 in plum's flip

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Fastbreak
05/04/22 8:25:17 PM
#305:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
It was very clearly at Red.

Though I do note, Scare, that this is the one post you've made since page 1.

Because it's a really stupid theory. If Sultan and you are Town, then why in the world would I attach myself with a claim when it's perfectly sensible to just push you based on basic logic?

Busy day, I'm around now though

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IfGodCouldDie
05/04/22 8:27:23 PM
#306:


Ok, with all the protection talk im going to clear something up. I honestly believe there couldn't have been a no kill or any other protection.

I am BG.

Night 1 I protected Han because it was the safest play in my opinion, he is the player I consider the best in this game, with Red a close 2nd. That a part of why I was super wanting to lynch him, I was a little miffed that he wasn't shot.

Night 2 I protected Sbell because of the cop reveal and I expected Sbell to get shot because he was confirmed town.

Night 3 I protected Chang because Sbell was already protected and I felt Chang had basically confirmed himself because of Plum.

Night 2

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Lopen
05/04/22 8:29:29 PM
#307:


I wonder what our resident protection expert red thinks about a bodyguard in the setup

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Fastbreak
05/04/22 8:30:55 PM
#308:


I was about to say how I don't think igcd could be scum with a post like bottom of previous page so Def buy the role. And saves check out

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Fastbreak
05/04/22 8:32:19 PM
#309:


changmas posted...
Chris told us he bought it n1 in plum's flip

We're you not the one that said don't read too much into what the flavor says as Chris is having fun?

But yeah, it would be an obvious thing once you look at it so that would just be the exclamation point. Oops

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Lopen
05/04/22 8:32:50 PM
#310:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Plum - ED3 - Mafia Puppet Who Became Godfather Night One


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Fastbreak
05/04/22 8:35:33 PM
#311:


Yes. I forgot that was listed that way

I'm also listed as Scare the Furry so I'm not focusing too much on the player list in a meta sense

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changmas
05/04/22 8:38:26 PM
#312:


Fastbreak posted...
We're you not the one that said don't read too much into what the flavor says as Chris is having fun?

But yeah, it would be an obvious thing once you look at it so that would just be the exclamation point. Oops

i mean there's a difference between actual information and chris just having fun. specifically i said this in response to the "red did not get the hammer today" thing. and i stand by that i don't think anyone should overreact to that. Unless Red wants to claim Town Hammerer...

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TheSultanOfSlam
05/04/22 8:42:52 PM
#313:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Ok, with all the protection talk im going to clear something up. I honestly believe there couldn't have been a no kill or any other protection.

I am BG.

Night 1 I protected Han because it was the safest play in my opinion, he is the player I consider the best in this game, with Red a close 2nd. That a part of why I was super wanting to lynch him, I was a little miffed that he wasn't shot.

Night 2 I protected Sbell because of the cop reveal and I expected Sbell to get shot because he was confirmed town.

Night 3 I protected Chang because Sbell was already protected and I felt Chang had basically confirmed himself because of Plum.

Night 2


Okay.... well you didn't die so that doesn't exsplain the no kill still anyways..

So I must have blocked the kill then there is no other explanation is their??

Unless mafia no killed but like we said that is probably unlikely right?

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TheSultanOfSlam
05/04/22 8:51:41 PM
#314:


Should we call bs on IGCD?

Is a
BG
Bus driver
And Town roleblocker

To much protection?

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TheSultanOfSlam
05/04/22 8:54:40 PM
#315:


Obellisk posted...
seeing that plum spent points making himself godfather night 1 really makes me put more question into Scare killing the cop day 2.

I realize there is clear direction today now but still do not want him being taken off the list.

Yeah killing the Cop probably gives alot of points id imagine if that is what you're saying

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Fastbreak
05/04/22 9:03:31 PM
#316:


Bg is protection but it doesn't prevent a kill so I think it checks out

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Fastbreak
05/04/22 9:04:15 PM
#317:


Fastbreak posted...
Bg is protection but it doesn't prevent a kill so I think it checks out

This is not be explained bg this is me responding to Sultan that I don't think this is too much protecting

A doc would be though

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Fastbreak
05/04/22 9:04:47 PM
#318:


Fastbreak posted...
This is not me explaining bg this is me responding to Sultan that I don't think this is too much protecting

A doc would be though

Fucking phone


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TheSultanOfSlam
05/04/22 9:04:51 PM
#319:


Fastbreak posted...
This is not be explained bg this is me responding to Sultan that I don't think this is too much protecting

A doc would be though

Okay thank you

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Fastbreak
05/04/22 9:06:27 PM
#320:


And I'm guessing igcd wanted to also be King because it effectively turns him into a doctor for the night

Unless there is something noting against that in his role

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Lopen
05/04/22 9:22:32 PM
#321:


So I think with IGCD claiming I'm reasonably sure no doctor is gonna help since to me that's the line where there actually is too much protection (bus + bg + king-- there is no town rb). I was hoping there would be one. Then I could not claim this.

I am town bulletproof-- I remember Kirby's theory clearly because I was like "close!" It feels like a miller claim because people are like "why does a bulletproof exist in this setup what do you get for being king" and I'm like NOTORIETY right. I think scum killed me last night because they no longer saw me as a valid mislynch.

I think the scum think I'm the independent. Probably red on the team assuming doc cannot exist due to bus and pushing that to his mates. Maybe red han and sultan are all on that team but it's probably just 2/3 of remaining scum with one laying low. They probably think my victory condition has something to do with the king and think they're screwed because I've been elected once.

I stress I'm town bulletproof. That's all. I am not the independent. We should kill Sultan.

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TheSultanOfSlam
05/04/22 9:27:27 PM
#322:


Why didn't you claim this earlier i dont buy it.

You wanted me dead so bad or to prove I was wrong so bad you claim this immediately to illegitimize me and then I would be dead by now.

Bullshit lopen


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Lopen
05/04/22 9:31:55 PM
#323:


Well, scum sultan, it's because I think it gets me lynched anyway and I was hoping if a doctor showed up we could expose your claim as BS that way.

Bodyguard to me is close enough though, especially thinking about the doctor proxy. BG + Town Roleblock + Bus seems like overkill enough that I'm 100% sure this is a suicide scum move and not town Sultan being overzealous.

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changmas
05/04/22 9:35:53 PM
#324:


well this is a lot more plausible than town gladiator, i'll give you that

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IfGodCouldDie
05/04/22 9:38:27 PM
#325:


Fastbreak posted...
And I'm guessing igcd wanted to also be King because it effectively turns him into a doctor for the night

Unless there is something noting against that in his role
If I am Kinged I am unable to use my power, so I'd imagine it is similar for anyone else with a targeted power.

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TheSultanOfSlam
05/04/22 9:39:59 PM
#326:


Lopen posted...
Well, scum sultan, it's because I think it gets me lynched anyway and I was hoping if a doctor showed up we could expose your claim as BS that way.

Bodyguard to me is close enough though, especially thinking about the doctor proxy. BG + Town Roleblock + Bus seems like overkill enough that I'm 100% sure this is a suicide scum move and not town Sultan being overzealous.

Yeah you're just scum good try though. Beacuse I 100% know im town and that i blocked you last night.

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TheSultanOfSlam
05/04/22 9:45:59 PM
#327:


Also why waste your time throwing wild theories if you're bulletproof i totally dont buy it.

I guess that also what makes me different form you I go to kill me immediately in your shoes.

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Lopen
05/04/22 9:47:03 PM
#328:


You all should ask yourselves how likely it is we have town roleblocker with bodyguard and bus in the setup.

Because I personally think town roleblocker is excessive with any other protective role to the point where I'm 100% sure it's Sultan lying-- I was hoping the other role would be doctor then I could just keep being unkillable over here, but yeah.

I honestly wouldn't be super surprised if the scumteam is Han + Red + Sultan and they were hoping to wifom their way out of it when Sultan flips mafia. Because honestly that would be easier than scum firing blind roleblocks at Han or knowing Red's role/firing blind roleblocks at Red since there's a point system. I really doubt they upgrade to roleblocker when cop and watcher are flipped

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changmas
05/04/22 9:55:58 PM
#329:


so we have

Claimlist

1. Sultan - Town Roleblocker
2. Scare The Furry
3. Lopen - Town Bulletproof
4. changmas - Town Vig
5. htaeD
6. Han - Unnamed (Town) Power
7. IGCD - Town Bodyguard
8.Sbell
9.Kirby321
10.Mzero
11.Red

With dead:
Ulti - Town Watcher
Crescent - Town Bus Driver
Tidus - Town Cop

That's....a LOT of power. Maybe too much power? And that's assuming no one else is going to jump in and claim power too. Maybe it's time for massclaim? Assuming that almost everyone not claimed is going to claim vanilla though

lot of power in there tbh

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Lopen
05/04/22 9:56:19 PM
#330:


Will elect any king who will kill Sultan

Has to be Sultan though. Han/Red is just speculation at this point. I'm fairly certain at least one of them is scum-- we'd have to read into whether Han hinted power.

We should also get a full claim from Han because I'm thinking we're pretty jacked to the gills on power now.

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Lopen
05/04/22 9:57:02 PM
#331:


Sbell already claimed vanilla a few topics ago btw.

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Fastbreak
05/04/22 10:06:18 PM
#332:


Lopen posted...
So I think with IGCD claiming I'm reasonably sure no doctor is gonna help since to me that's the line where there actually is too much protection (bus + bg + king-- there is no town rb). I was hoping there would be one. Then I could not claim this.

I am town bulletproof-- I remember Kirby's theory clearly because I was like "close!" It feels like a miller claim because people are like "why does a bulletproof exist in this setup what do you get for being king" and I'm like NOTORIETY right. I think scum killed me last night because they no longer saw me as a valid mislynch.

I think the scum think I'm the independent. Probably red on the team assuming doc cannot exist due to bus and pushing that to his mates. Maybe red han and sultan are all on that team but it's probably just 2/3 of remaining scum with one laying low. They probably think my victory condition has something to do with the king and think they're screwed because I've been elected once.

I stress I'm town bulletproof. That's all. I am not the independent. We should kill Sultan.

This sounds contradictory

You say that scum didn't think you were a mislynch, but you also throw out that scum thinks you are independent. Why would scum aim at the independent, especially after they just lost a man

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HanOfTheNekos
05/04/22 10:08:27 PM
#333:


Why would you not immediately claim BP after a RB claimed, when the running argument is that you submitted the kill?

(hint it's because you're not BP)

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HanOfTheNekos
05/04/22 10:16:25 PM
#334:


And I see no issue with Bus + BG + RB

Bus Driver and RB are 'skill-based'. They are able to mess with Town just like they are able to mess with Scum. And BG doesn't prevent a kill, just redirects it, guaranteed, for one night.

As much as Chris said not to meta, this feels like a very 'Chris' set-up.

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Lopen
05/04/22 10:21:54 PM
#335:


Fastbreak posted...
This sounds contradictory

You say that scum didn't think you were a mislynch, but you also throw out that scum thinks you are independent. Why would scum aim at the independent, especially after they just lost a man

They think I'm the independent NOW because they shot me and I didn't die and they don't think doc is in the setuo

I don't think they thought I was the independent when they shot me

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Kirby321
05/04/22 10:24:57 PM
#336:


Holy fuck I have a lot to catch up on

But just reading the opening post... I am SO glad my idiotic plan worked AHAHAHA!!

... The timing is kinda bad, but I believe our momentum as Town can't get any larger than this! Scum fell for my trap hook, line, and sinker, baby!

Pray tell, scum, why'd you try to kill me and roleblock chang? Hmm? Trying to protect your teammate Sultan?

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changmas
05/04/22 10:27:02 PM
#337:


Kirby321 posted...
Holy fuck I have a lot to catch up on

But just reading the opening post... I am SO glad my idiotic plan worked AHAHAHA!!

... The timing is kinda bad, but I believe our momentum as Town can't get any larger than this! Scum fell for my trap hook, line, and sinker, baby!

Pray tell, scum, why'd you try to kill me and roleblock chang? Hmm? Trying to protect your teammate Sultan?

oh boy, a new town power claim is about to drop

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Kirby321
05/04/22 10:27:50 PM
#338:


Obellisk posted...
Chances are low. With that said, I do not want to see anyone claiming.

Oh uh... whoops. Maybe I should've read before opening my mouth

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Kirby321
05/04/22 10:32:05 PM
#339:


Obellisk posted...
Possible Kings day 4:
Igcd
Chang
death
Sultan

never kings (where the 3 remaining scum will be found):
Han
red
Scare
mzero
lopen

I'm sad that you left me out...
Not that I'm a good choice since I gotta travel this Friday and thus will be gone for most of the day >_>

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Kirby321
05/04/22 10:36:57 PM
#340:


TheSultanOfSlam posted...
I am town Roleblocker and I blocked Lopen last night!

Bullshit. I know for a fact there was an attempted murder on me last night. You're lying, unless chang admits to shooting me instead of you

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Kirby321
05/04/22 10:38:55 PM
#341:


TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Night 1 red
Night 2 Han
Night 3 Lopen

Why, thank you for outing your scummates. It's funny how this lines up with my Top 3.

Sultan, Han, and red are the remaining scum. That's what I'm calling

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Kirby321
05/04/22 10:50:32 PM
#342:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
##VoteKing: Sultan

I can confirm that I was RB'd N2.

Han, how are you sure Sultan ain't a scum roleblocker if you're town? You seem awfully confident in a town roleblocker claim...

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Lopen
05/04/22 10:52:06 PM
#343:


What is even going on.

I love Mafia.

Suck em up Kirby!

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IfGodCouldDie
05/04/22 10:58:58 PM
#344:


Well this just got even more interestinger

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Kirby321
05/04/22 11:00:00 PM
#345:


htaeD posted...
Oh and Red did eventually say Plums claim sounded like a bought power from the scumshop.
BUT he still spent the rest of the post berating the past 2 kings and Han, calling one or more of them out as scum.
Not sure why he even brought that up at the time.

Gee, that sounds an awful lot like how Plum behaved before he went down...

I'm on to you, Red. Everyone else may think you're town, but I know you're scum.

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Kirby321
05/04/22 11:05:57 PM
#346:


htaeD posted...
But I came up with it on my own too!
<.<

Hey, great minds think alike

And that's why I think you're town even though the scum team wants to paint you as scum so, sooo badly

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changmas
05/04/22 11:23:07 PM
#347:


how bout we speed it up here my man. i'm tryna hear this claim tonight

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Kirby321
05/04/22 11:25:34 PM
#348:


Fastbreak posted...
And I'm guessing igcd wanted to also be King because it effectively turns him into a doctor for the night

Unless there is something noting against that in his role

Even if his claim does run a bit counter to my own role, this behavior lines up so well with IGCD.

... But surely adding Bulletproof into the mix is a lot of protection from town?

Man, I wanted to bait out Han's fake claim, but I guess my role reveal will have to be unceremonious since IGCD's claim is just so similar to mine that I have to address it. I know I was giddy to reveal my plan that miraculously worked (and truly, it's an idiotic plan when you think about it given how much of a lack of a plan there was in this and more just blind faith that it would work).

As I alluded to in a previous paragraph, I am town Bulletproof. If you ever wondered why I never wanted to be King, it's because I frankly didn't need the invincibility.

... For one night, at least. Now that my armor is broken, I'm just a vanilla bean >.> But yeah, I was told that an attempt was made on my life and that my armor was broken.

As such, I'm a little skeptical of IGCD's claim, but Sultan's is absolute BS. If, somehow, he's actually a town Roleblocker (highly unlikely), then he sure as hell didn't prevent the kill by blocking Lopen. Someone deliberately targeted me, and it made sense!

I had a very strong feeling that either Scare or I were going to die, just based on the kill patterns that have happened, if for some reason they didn't go for chang (but they didn't go for Sbell after Tidus flip so it was clear that this scum team is trying to hit unconventional targets that can't trace back to me). Barely anyone except Lopen put suspicion on me. Heck, Lopen said I should've been pressured more! But no one listened... So it was clear that I'd be an easy kill but a difficult mislynch. I even alluded to this in my giant ranking post at the end of Day 2, but of course, I knew I wasn't gonna die (armor-piercing bullets notwithstanding, if they even exist). It was a hard callout on the scum because I am very sure I have them figured out, and Sultan's blunder only confirmed that.

We kill Sultan or Han today, maybe Red if we feel like gambling and not going for the obvious scum.

... But uh frankly as much as I appreciate the invincibility from King right now since I got no more armor, like I said, my travel plans on Friday will keep me busy, so unless y'all want an instant death sentence on early Friday morning, vote for chang >.> I trust him

Also I still need to catch up on these last few posts but I figured I shouldn't draw out these theatrics when IGCD's claim was so eerily similar to mine.

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Kirby321
05/04/22 11:27:35 PM
#349:


Lopen posted...
So I think with IGCD claiming I'm reasonably sure no doctor is gonna help since to me that's the line where there actually is too much protection (bus + bg + king-- there is no town rb). I was hoping there would be one. Then I could not claim this.

I am town bulletproof-- I remember Kirby's theory clearly because I was like "close!" It feels like a miller claim because people are like "why does a bulletproof exist in this setup what do you get for being king" and I'm like NOTORIETY right. I think scum killed me last night because they no longer saw me as a valid mislynch.

I think the scum think I'm the independent. Probably red on the team assuming doc cannot exist due to bus and pushing that to his mates. Maybe red han and sultan are all on that team but it's probably just 2/3 of remaining scum with one laying low. They probably think my victory condition has something to do with the king and think they're screwed because I've been elected once.

I stress I'm town bulletproof. That's all. I am not the independent. We should kill Sultan.

AY YO WTF

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changmas
05/04/22 11:28:26 PM
#350:


alright well you're really not gonna like lopen's claim then lmao

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