Current Events > I feel like the Resident Evil series died for me after Code Veronica.

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Remakes not withstanding. 4 was definitely a groundbreaking game, I can recognize that. Just didn't really love it. 5 and 6 were meh. All of those side games never did anything for me.

I just really liked killing some non-parasite zombies and random giant monsters in cities, mansions, and labs.

That said, I haven't played 7 or Village yet. Hope to on the new PSN service.

K

Same with me, except I didn't play the original RE3 and got bored of CV about 3/4 of the way through. I was a huge fan of the first two games way back when.

I picked the series back up at 7 and it was awesome. RE2 remake was also awesome. Haven't played 8 or 3 remake yet.

I find it hard to quantify why the tone of other Resi games work, but 5 and 6 don't. They're all cheesy and don't take themselves seriously. Maybe 5 and 6 are lacking in humour comparatively? But then I'm not sure how much of the earlier games were meant to be funny. It's almost like the other games emulate low budget but entertaining bad action films, while 5 and 6 emulate higher budget but boring bad action films.

5 is a frontrunner for funniest game I've ever played. Dump on it for being unintentional if you want but I absolutely love it for never (Apart from Barry in mercs) turning to the camera and winking. It just keeps going and never drops the straight face.

I think 4 and 5 are great games and the rest of the series is a mire of disappointment that they once rose from and were then re-swallowed by.

Im the only one that thinks 7 was a great direction while 8 was horrible at least in a story direction. Vampires/werewolves? Uh....no....

VandorLee posted...

Im the only one that thinks 7 was a great direction while 8 was horrible at least in a story direction. Vampires/werewolves? Uh....no....

It makes me wonder if they could have just stuck with braindead zombies and giant monsters like a spider and snake.... Would it still be successful? I feel like it could have been if done in new settings and good storylines.

The X Dawg posted...

giant monsters like a spider and snake

Zero is arguably the most unpopular RE game and I remember the bosses just being huge bugs/animals.

Hot take: Revelations is the best game in the franchise.

I tend to agree.

4 was an okay run and gun.
But it broke the series.

Complet disagree

7, 8, Rev 1/2, RE2make and RE3make are the best in the series.

Sure 4 was a mess. 5/6 and CV were bad

But they rebounded hard

7 does a lot of the stuff that was in the older games for the most part only its in first person. id try it.

refmon posted...

Zero is arguably the most unpopular RE game and I remember the bosses just being huge bugs/animals.

Honestly forgot about Zero.... At least it was connected to the first game and I loved the train setting.

VandorLee posted...

Im the only one that thinks 7 was a great direction while 8 was horrible at least in a story direction. Vampires/werewolves? Uh....no....

I don't mind pseudo-vampires and pseudo-werewolves being caused by some kinda virus, but the story just makes zero sense and completely falls apart at the end.

Eh, I'd argue RE8 makes as much as sense as the rest of the RE games

Far more than 4,5 and 6 at any rate

What part didn't make sense to you?

UnfairRepresent posted...

Eh, I'd argue RE8 makes as much as sense as the rest of the RE games

Far more than 4,5 and 6 at any rate

What part didn't make sense to you?

Well that gives me optimism to play it.

UnfairRepresent posted...

What part didn't make sense to you?

Miranda. Nothing about her makes any sense.

She tells Lady Dimitrescu that she needs Ethan for the ritual, but she kills him before doing the ritual. You could argue that she's lying, but why would she tell Dimitrescu not to kill him?

Heisenberg has spent decades experimenting with the cadou and machinery, mass producing a giant army to take on Miranda. That is incredibly fucking stupid. Heisenberg can manipulate metal, Miranda's great big power is that she can shapeshift. He should be able to just murder her.

Now you could argue that she has control of the mold, so she could just kill them. Except that Heisenberg believes she's using Ethan to kill off the Four Lords because she doesn't need them anymore. If she can just kill them off, why not do that?

So maybe Heisenberg is wrong and she's not sending Ethan to kill them off. Except there are multiple points where she turns into the hag and gives Ethan advice. So why does she do that?

Most RE games make sense, they're just not necessarily well written. RE8 has that with Chris and Mia's interaction which is poorly written, but you can at least see what they meant to do. Nothing with Miranda makes any sense.

HagenEx posted...

Hot take: Revelations is the best game in the franchise.

Based and perfectly respectable opinion.

i love re1-3 and to a lesser extent code veronica because they were built around a certain things (map memorization, strategic killing of enemies, inventory management) that the action games dont have. those games just perfectly click with me and honestly no other video game series has ever approached the fun i get from letting my brain race to tell me how to get through re2 as fast as possible

Not including Zero and remakes everything after Code Veronica felt like it was Resident Evil in name only. I'm not saying they are bad games but they are bad Resident Evil games. The remake of 2 showed that they can make a good Resident Evil game with the OTS camera.

I'd say after 0 and the REmake but yeah.

RE4 was the last great game in the series.

pegusus123456 posted...

Miranda. Nothing about her makes any sense.

She tells Lady Dimitrescu that she needs Ethan for the ritual, but she kills him before doing the ritual. You could argue that she's lying, but why would she tell Dimitrescu not to kill him?

Not sure what you're trying to say here but Mrianda was testing Ethan. She wanted to pit him against the 4 lords and if he dies before he even reaches them then he's not special.

Big H flat out says this to you.

Heisenberg has spent decades experimenting with the cadou and machinery, mass producing a giant army to take on Miranda. That is incredibly fucking stupid. Heisenberg can manipulate metal, Miranda's great big power is that she can shapeshift. He should be able to just murder her.

Now you could argue that she has control of the mold, so she could just kill them. Except that Heisenberg believes she's using Ethan to kill off the Four Lords because she doesn't need them anymore. If she can just kill them off, why not do that?

She could and she probably would have done if she got her baby back and they were still alive.

But she was testing Ethan.

So maybe Heisenberg is wrong and she's not sending Ethan to kill them off. Except there are multiple points where she turns into the hag and gives Ethan advice. So why does she do that?

She was testing Ethan. That's why she didn't just kill him in the first place.

Ethan is mold, Rose is a mold baby. This makes them unique. The megamycete absorbs conconciousness and properties from anything that dies which its roots can take hold of.

Miranda has experimented for a century trying to bring Eva back and all that happened was it would fail. So she did experiments including the 4 lords, Eveline and others trying to bring her back.

Rose's mold baby status made her the ideal candidate and Ethan's mold status made him a perfect sacrifice. So she got him to kill all the lords and then killed him. Then killed everyone in the village, all to feed the megamycete to bring Eva back successfully.

And it worked. The baby came back successfully in the body with all these conciousnesses and powers (including Ethans) except it didn't come back as Eva. It came back as Rose. Miranda's plan failed and potential implications that the megamycete itself was intentionally misleading her for a century to feed it.

If Ethan had just been killed for being a wuss then he's clearly not that strong a sacrifice.

Everything Miranda did. All the chaos, all the murder, all the experiments were all just to increase the likelihood in her mind that Eva's resurrection was as a success. That's it

As for why she pretended to be an old lady and farted about being weird? Who the fucks knows. That's RE being RE.

Why did Saddler build a giant laser grid that's impossible to get past unless you do a series of sick backflips to get in and out of his house?

These villains get bored I guess. I'm sure Wesker goes to youtube comments and trolls about Covid Vaccines for attention in his spare time.

Most RE games make sense, they're just not necessarily well written.

Bulllllllllllllll

Bull!

To quote Uncle Phill.

https://youtu.be/gMNsMdnSBIk?t=24

RE4? Let's inject the president's daughter with a parasite, hold her to ransom, use the ransom money to fund out cult then when we hand over the president's daughter she infects all the presidents aids and takes over America. Then the world....

Let's spend the entire game trying to kill her! Also we need to do our "Rituals" that... Do... something... And then put in a her giant tube that we didn't do until right now next to the big "Kill the parasite" machine we keep in our basement for some reason.

Not to mention Midget Napoleon building a giant statue of himself despite the fact part of the plot is that the cult needs cash.

Not to mention Leon NEVER telling the US this despite knowing their plan and being on the phone to Hunnigan for the entire game.

Same in RE5 where Sheva is on the phone to the BSAA for half the game (and they even send one helicopter to save Jill and Josh) but don't bother reacting to Wesker's WMD plans.

Or Wesker's "The world is overpopulated so I'm gonna put worms in everyone which will kill almost everyone and then rule the world of a handful of worm slaves as a God I guess..." motivation that's arguably the weakest and most nonsense of the entire series.

Or Jill's "I was Wesker's sex slave and killed thousands for years on end and had compelte memory and understanding of what was going on just no control.. But I feel fine. Let's never talk about or mention this again I'm cool."

Or Chris' entire ark that makes nosense. He has survivor guilt over Jill dying, even though he knows Jill is still alive, then he meets her and she's fine, then she still has survivor guilt over Sheva possibly dying... Eventhough Jill is fine... and at no point did Chris' guilt come to a head in any dramatic way with Sheva.

And do I even to begin with RE6? Really?

RE 1,2,3, REV2, 7 and 8 instantly gain a HUGE amount of plot consistency and actions making more sense because the heroes are isolated.

REV 1 as well does a good job with actions making sense despite having the BSAA on the phone.

RE8 has that with Chris and Mia's interaction which is poorly written, but you can at least see what they meant to do. Nothing with Miranda makes any sense.

Makes more sense than Krauser or Wesker or the Ashfords or any of the "I wanna take over the world by destroying it lol" people.

what? you mean "at cv"

cv practically almost killed the franchise on its own with how fucking horrible it was

7 and 8 are great

Guerrilla Soldier posted...

what? you mean "at cv"

cv practically almost killed the franchise on its own with how fucking horrible it was

Except CV is great and your opinion is wrong.

CV has the worst backtracking in the series and Steve Burnside. Its not good.

The X Dawg posted...

Except CV is great and your opinion is wrong.

CV is awful

CV is where it became a crazy action movie

RE4-7 are just action shooters I agree with TC

I also think CV should have been called Resident Evil 4

Nasty_Nitro posted...

7
just action shooters

wut

UnfairRepresent posted...

wut

4-6 my bad

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I strongly disagree. 4, 5 and REmake are all better than 7, which is by far the best of the games you have listed.

HagenEx posted...

Hot take: Revelations is the best game in the franchise.

Rev 1 was alright but I loved 2, I still play Raid Mode every now and then to this day

CV was a fun game altho the Ashfords where terrible villains and Steve Burnside was a whack ass ally the part with Chris Redfield was awesome it felt like Claire went through so much to finally see him.

The opening scene with Claire running from machine guns if a helicopter and doing James Bond Ethan Hunt type shit is where the series changed. The Steve Burnside dual wielding machine guns parts where too easy and sadly indicated where RE was going

Nasty_Nitro posted...

The opening scene with Claire running from machine guns if a helicopter and doing James Bond Ethan Hunt type shit is where the series changed.

Yeah I didn't like this either. RE was better when you were playing with people not action heroes.

I really like 8 as an independent action/fps but as a RE game it seems really silly.

kawalimus posted...

Yeah I didn't like this either. RE was better when you were playing with people not action heroes.

The feeling that they where outmatched and in serious trouble drastically disappears when your horror game character becomes Neo in The Matrix and can kick every bodies ass.

I liked Chris Redfield and Jill because they where normal cops. RE3 Jill was just slightly more aware of what was going on but she was still in deep shit. RE4 Leon Kennedy is Kurt Angle with the suplexes, Jean Claude Van Damme with the karate, John Woo with the guns and the bravery of Captain Kirk all in one. terrible

I couldn't play 1-CV, just watched my sibling play way back.

The controls sucked. The series didn't become playable for me until 4.

Nasty_Nitro posted...

The feeling that they where outmatched and in serious trouble drastically disappears when your horror game character becomes Neo in The Matrix and can kick every bodies ass.

I liked Chris Redfield and Jill because they where normal cops. RE3 Jill was just slightly more aware of what was going on but she was still in deep shit. RE4 Leon Kennedy is Kurt Angle with the suplexes, Jean Claude Van Damme with the karate, John Woo with the guns and the bravery of Captain Kirk all in one. terrible

While 4 was undeniably a massive departure from the tone of the games that came before it, it's still fantastic.

Glob posted...

While 4 was undeniably a massive departure from the tone of the games that came before it, it's still fantastic.

4 was fun but I find myself replaying the REmake, RE2 & RE3 remakes way more those games are scary RE4 is an action game. REmake with the crimson head zombies coming to life after you killed them an hour ago is HORRIFYING and I love it

Nasty_Nitro posted...

4 was fun but I find myself replaying the REmake, RE2 & RE3 remakes way more those games are scary RE4 is an action game. REmake with the crimson head zombies coming to life after you killed them an hour ago is HORRIFYING and I love it

Fuck the crimson heads. Fuck them right in their heads of crimson.

The X Dawg posted...

Fuck the crimson heads. Fuck them right in their heads of crimson.

My friend had a panic attack first time he got attacked by Crimson head lol dude dropped the controller, dropped his blunt and yelled. One of my fav gaming moments ever he had never played a RE game this man is 35 yrs old

8 is super good, I really really enjoy that one. 7 was good but a bit too small, 8 was basically first person 4 and I loved it.

Nasty_Nitro posted...

4 was fun but I find myself replaying the REmake, RE2 & RE3 remakes way more those games are scary RE4 is an action game. REmake with the crimson head zombies coming to life after you killed them an hour ago is HORRIFYING and I love it

You do you but it was never about scary for me.

Glob posted...

You do you but it was never about scary for me.

I suppose we differ there because Resident Evil was always about bring scared for me I love to play it at night in the dark. When I was a kid it was the ultimate sleep over game.

I kinda like the crimson heads