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Kensaimage
04/30/22 6:33:30 AM
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Loved this movie as a kid, but there was always a scene with Pai Mei that really bugged me. During one part of his fight with Beatrix, she grabs his throat. He chuckles, then essentially thrusts her hand away with just the strength of his upper body.

However, during the chuckle, something briefly protrudes from his mouth. What is it? Video posted here. At 6:00 in, the throat grab happens. Pai Mei pauses, then snickers at 6:02. Something protrudes from the corner of his mouth.

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pegusus123456
04/30/22 6:35:07 AM
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I've never seen this but now nothing is more important than knowing the answer.

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MrMallard
04/30/22 6:38:38 AM
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Those are his teeth, like the bottom row of his teeth.

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Kajagogo
04/30/22 6:41:32 AM
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MrMallard posted...
Those are his teeth, like the bottom row of his teeth.


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pegusus123456
04/30/22 6:42:54 AM
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Those are not his teeth, it comes out of his mouth and his tongue is clearly pushing it.

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Turtlebread
04/30/22 6:47:54 AM
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Hes a robot the whole time

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Kim_Seong-a
04/30/22 7:03:04 AM
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It's a piece of Five Gum

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Jiek_Fafn
04/30/22 7:04:57 AM
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I think he spits it at her to make her let go. I don't think he's pushing her with his body

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DespondentDeity
04/30/22 7:06:53 AM
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Isnt it a dart?

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pegusus123456
04/30/22 7:11:51 AM
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Jiek_Fafn posted...
I think he spits it at her to make her let go. I don't think he's pushing her with his body

DespondentDeity posted...
Isnt it a dart?
Oh, I think ya'll are right. There's a subtle pinging noise when he does it.

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Hornezz
04/30/22 7:33:50 AM
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Enhance!

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Yeah, the dart theory seems likely.

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Ilishe
04/30/22 7:35:47 AM
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Pai Mei is the best character in the movie

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AvlButtslam
04/30/22 7:36:42 AM
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Ive seen this movie so many times and I never figured it out. I thought it was a piece of gum that they somehow missed making n the actor spit out.

Is there a reason why itd be a dart? Is that something kung fu masters did?

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Nemu
04/30/22 7:40:20 AM
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Answers on random Google searches seem to think it's a white lotus in reference to another movie in which the character is portrayed.
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DespondentDeity
04/30/22 7:52:27 AM
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AvlButtslam posted...
Is there a reason why itd be a dart? Is that something kung fu masters did?

I think its more to specifically demonstrate to Beatrix that theres absolutely no such thing as nobility when youre fighting for your life, or basically that you should never rely on another persons sense of honor to insulate you from underhanded tactics. Remember thats a huge crux of her battle with Bill, is overcoming the massive respect she feels for him and how much she believes that he really has an ironclad code that he follows; but we see him use a similarly devious strategy by presenting their daughter during their final encounter. That was his dart, aimed to destroy Beatrixs heart.

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Kensaimage
04/30/22 5:52:12 PM
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Dart theory is interesting, but I watched the video again in .25 speed and it doesnt look like he uses it. If it even is a dart. To be honest, it certainly doesnt appear to be.

When he bucks her off, hes doing just that. Watching several times in slow mo, it doesnt appear hes spitting it at her to get her to let go
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kawalimus
04/30/22 5:59:08 PM
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Pai Mei got what was coming to him in the end. You don't rip someone's eye out over not getting along. Just send her home or some bullshit. I don't completely blame elle for poisoning him after that.
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ToasterStrudeI
04/30/22 6:00:17 PM
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kawalimus posted...
Pai Mei got what was coming to him in the end. You don't rip someone's eye out over not getting along. Just send her home or some bullshit. I don't completely blame elle for poisoning him after that.
It's not like he asked them to come train with him; they pretty much forced their way in.

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Kensaimage
04/30/22 8:54:12 PM
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kawalimus posted...
Pai Mei got what was coming to him in the end. You don't rip someone's eye out over not getting along. Just send her home or some bullshit. I don't completely blame elle for poisoning him after that.

Pai Mei isnt exactly known for applying modern, western morality. He asks Beatrix when they first meet if shes aware that he kills at will.

Not saying its right, but hes pretty upfront as to how he will treat disrespect, lol
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eston
04/30/22 9:00:28 PM
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If Bill's story is to be believed, yanking her eye out is far from the worst thing he's done

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Rain_Dust
04/30/22 9:02:11 PM
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It is some sort of chunk of something. He "pings" it at her to make her let go.

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Kensaimage
04/30/22 9:03:18 PM
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Rain_Dust posted...
It is some sort of chunk of something. He "pings" it at her to make her let go.

She lets go after he throws her off by thrusting his chest outwards
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Xavier_On_High
04/30/22 9:16:13 PM
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DespondentDeity posted...
I think its more to specifically demonstrate to Beatrix that theres absolutely no such thing as nobility when youre fighting for your life, or basically that you should never rely on another persons sense of honor to insulate you from underhanded tactics.

I doubt it. Literally moments later he threatens to tear off her arm because she fights without honour by picking up a rock. Plus Elle manages to kill him specifically by exploiting his inability to predict underhanded tactics. Dude is 100% about honour and nobility.

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Tyranthraxus
04/30/22 9:17:46 PM
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Xavier_On_High posted...
I doubt it. Literally moments later he threatens to tear off her arm because she fights without honour by picking up a rock. Plus Elle manages to kill him specifically by exploiting his inability to predict underhanded tactics. Dude is 100% about honour and nobility.

Ellie didn't kill him because of an underhanded tactic in a fight. She poisoned him.

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Kensaimage
04/30/22 9:25:33 PM
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Xavier_On_High posted...
I doubt it. Literally moments later he threatens to tear off her arm because she fights without honour by picking up a rock. Plus Elle manages to kill him specifically by exploiting his inability to predict underhanded tactics. Dude is 100% about honour and nobility.

I thought Pai Mei in cinema lore was largely evil? My interpretation of the rock incident was that he was simply offended that she tried to kill him with a rock while his back was turned. Thats the equivalent of getting shot in the back in old western lore. The victor would be shunned as a coward
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Xavier_On_High
04/30/22 9:30:29 PM
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Kensaimage posted...
I thought Pai Mei in cinema lore was largely evil? My interpretation of the rock incident was that he was simply offended that she tried to kill him with a rock while his back was turned. Thats the equivalent of getting shot in the back in old western lore. The victor would be shunned as a coward

Well, he murdered with impunity, but he had a code, AFAIK. I'm not an expert, I'm just going by Kill Bill and a few other references tbh

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pegusus123456
05/01/22 1:46:13 AM
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Kensaimage posted...
Dart theory is interesting, but I watched the video again in .25 speed and it doesnt look like he uses it. If it even is a dart. To be honest, it certainly doesnt appear to be.

When he bucks her off, hes doing just that. Watching several times in slow mo, it doesnt appear hes spitting it at her to get her to let go
I'd chalk that up to Tarantino being stylistic. It'd be pretty tough to actually spit a dart like that, so it would require some kind of special effect which just wouldn't happen in the old school martial arts movies this scene is imitating. The "ping" noise is almost certainly meant to indicate that it's a dart.

Her response is also a little overblown if he's just shoving her off his shoulder. It makes more sense that he hit her with a dart.

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Kensaimage
05/01/22 2:37:46 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
I'd chalk that up to Tarantino being stylistic. It'd be pretty tough to actually spit a dart like that, so it would require some kind of special effect which just wouldn't happen in the old school martial arts movies this scene is imitating. The "ping" noise is almost certainly meant to indicate that it's a dart.

Her response is also a little overblown if he's just shoving her off his shoulder. It makes more sense that he hit her with a dart.

Well hes throwing her back while breaking her grip on his neck with just a flex of his upper body. Not even using his hands. Thats fairly significant strength. Dont recall a ping sound. Ill have to rewatch a clip and listen for that.

Its too bad we couldnt somehow just ask Tarantino, huh? Thatd be awesome.
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pegusus123456
05/01/22 2:42:56 AM
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Kensaimage posted...
Well hes throwing her back while breaking her grip on his neck with just a flex of his upper body. Not even using his hands. Thats fairly significant strength. Dont recall a ping sound. Ill have to rewatch a clip and listen for that.
That's just more evidence for it being a dart lol. He's never implied to be super strong, so it makes more sense that he shot a dart at her to break the grip and send her back.

The pinging is subtle, but it's there.

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008Zulu
05/01/22 2:49:57 AM
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He has some mad-ass eyebrows!

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CreekCo
05/01/22 3:06:21 AM
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I always thought that scene was weird

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Umbreon
05/01/22 3:14:26 AM
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Hornezz posted...
Enhance!

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/8/4/AACpnzAADLzg.jpg
Yeah, the dart theory seems likely.


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Middle hope
05/01/22 4:04:10 AM
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Looks like a fake tooth that came off

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AbstraktProfSC2
05/01/22 4:16:24 AM
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it doesnt look like a dart at all to me
i believe the white lotus petal over everything

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Kensaimage
05/01/22 6:25:26 AM
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AbstraktProfSC2 posted...
it doesnt look like a dart at all to me
i believe the white lotus petal over everything

Im leaning on this or it was simply a piece of gum the actor happened to be chewing at the time
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LiqiudusSnake
05/01/22 7:23:44 AM
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I never ever got the impression of a dart. Where did that idea even come from? I thought it was something weird, like makeup coming off or something, but never ever a dart.

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pegusus123456
05/01/22 7:32:44 AM
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Ya'll are underestimating the importance of the ping.

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Hornezz
05/01/22 7:34:24 AM
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LiqiudusSnake posted...
I never ever got the impression of a dart. Where did that idea even come from?
It's the sound effect that sells it for me.

There's a *pew* sound, like an old-timey gun sound effect, to indicate he's spitting it at her with force. Followed by a *cling* to make it sound metallic.

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LiqiudusSnake
05/01/22 7:35:41 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
Ya'll are underestimating the important of the ping.

Just watched the scene again. There's also a ping a second later when she kicks. I suppose there's a dart use there also?

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pegusus123456
05/01/22 7:44:11 AM
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LiqiudusSnake posted...
Just watched the scene again. There's also a ping a second later when she kicks. I suppose there's a dart use there also?
I hear what you're talking about, but it's a different kind of noise. And like I said, her reaction makes more sense if he flung a dart at her rather than just pushing her off.

And if it's not a dart, what is it supposed to be? You suggested makeup, but it clearly comes out of his mouth and he doesn't have any makeup that color anyway.

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LiqiudusSnake
05/01/22 7:53:49 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
I hear what you're talking about, but it's a different kind of noise. And like I said, her reaction makes more sense if he flung a dart at her rather than just pushing her off.

And if it's not a dart, what is it supposed to be? You suggested makeup, but it clearly comes out of his mouth and he doesn't have any makeup that color anyway.

There is also nothing to indicate a dart any more than anything else. There is no hit point shown, nor does she react like a dart hit her. If there were a dart, she would have taken it out, and the film would had made a point of it. I always took it as showing just how powerful he was simply by the strength of his neck/chin

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pegusus123456
05/01/22 7:56:43 AM
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Okay then, what's that shit in his mouth then?

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LiqiudusSnake
05/01/22 8:11:17 AM
#43:


pegusus123456 posted...
Okay then, what's that shit in his mouth then?

LMAO, no idea bro. But it aint indicated to be a dart thats for sure

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pegusus123456
05/01/22 8:11:52 AM
#44:


So in conclusion, the best guess is that it's a dart. Got it.

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Xavier_On_High
05/01/22 8:20:20 AM
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This is really bothering me.

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LiqiudusSnake
05/01/22 8:21:22 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
So in conclusion, the best guess is that it's a dart. Got it.
ok

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AbstraktProfSC2
05/01/22 8:26:01 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
So in conclusion, the best guess is that it's a dart. Got it.
how?
Pai Mei is literally a character from Fist of the White Lotus/Clan of the White Lotus

a dart isnt outside of the spectrum of the character but it looks/acts nothing like a random ass dart in his mouth. a white lotus petal seems to be a tribute or homage of the original character to me

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AvlButtslam
05/01/22 10:20:38 AM
#48:


Im not sold on the dart theory either. Though I dont know anything about how it could be the white lotus thing. Whoever knows about that, lets dissect that.

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eston
05/01/22 10:21:40 AM
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It seems like it's just a quick little reference/easter egg that could have probably been shot better

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05/01/22 10:32:43 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
So in conclusion, the best guess is that it's a dart. Got it.


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