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eston
04/27/22 1:17:18 PM
#51:


Even in 02 I'm surprised that made it into the final cut

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Geist des Durcheinan
04/27/22 1:28:40 PM
#52:


A fine example of why physical media is still important.

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Master Kazuya
04/27/22 1:30:50 PM
#53:


Chadawah posted...
I assumed that Spiderman assumed that Bonesaw was a homophobe and therefore thought the comment would get under his skin.

Yeah it seems more like something to rile him up, otherwise he'd be calling all his opponents gay

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coolguyjimmy
04/27/22 1:34:05 PM
#54:


This is due to the Movie airing at 7:25pm -- back in the 90s, ITV made an absolutely horrendous cut of Robot Cop, that they aired at like 3pm on Saturday Afternoon for kids.
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RealityDose
04/27/22 1:34:59 PM
#56:


I thought the whole point was Bonesaw was a typical 'alpha male' so Spiderman was insulting his fragile masculinity.
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coolguyjimmy
04/27/22 1:39:29 PM
#57:


Whoever 55# was -- I think it was because back in the 90s, loads of more adult film properties had toys:

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eston
04/27/22 1:54:30 PM
#58:


RealityDose posted...
I thought the whole point was Bonesaw was a typical 'alpha male' so Spiderman was insulting his fragile masculinity.
Well yeah but it's still kind of a bad look to have Spiderman attack someone's masculinity by implying they are gay

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RealityDose
04/27/22 1:55:43 PM
#59:


eston posted...

Well yeah but it's still kind of a bad look to have Spiderman attack someone's masculinity by implying they are gay

The insult is only an insult to Bonesaw tho
It's like implying a white nationalist listens to black supremacist rap

The whole insult is 'you're the problem and I'm insulting you for it'
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eston
04/27/22 1:56:38 PM
#60:


I get that but it's still a bad look

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RealityDose
04/27/22 1:58:04 PM
#61:


Eh each to their own
personally I'd rather tear down a bigot by what they fear the most
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A_Good_Boy
04/27/22 1:58:51 PM
#62:


RealityDose posted...
The insult is only an insult to Bonesaw tho
It's like implying a white nationalist listens to black supremacist rap

The whole insult is 'you're the problem and I'm insulting you for it'
Pretty sure the issue is that he's using homosexuality as an insult at all. Doesn't matter if it's targeted at a hypermasculine asshole since he's using something that should be benign in a derogatory manner.

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FortuneCookie
04/27/22 2:00:56 PM
#63:


I'm... actually kinda shocked that they allowed a homophobic quip from Spider-Man. I was thinking this was gonna be Bonesaw saying something to that nature. Even in 2002, I would have thought Marvel would have been pro-LGBTQ.
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VorpalAxeMan
04/27/22 2:07:07 PM
#64:


Books, movies, and plays are a snapshot of the culture that made them in a specific time and how that culture's attitude towards certain ideas reflect in their behaviors. Since it still exists in its original form future historians will be able to view the edits in light of our culture's shifting attitude towards homophobia.

So, meh?

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RealityDose
04/27/22 2:08:52 PM
#65:


A_Good_Boy posted...
Pretty sure the issue is that he's using homosexuality as an insult at all.

Because Bonesaw thinks it's an insult
It's like saying to someone you like rap music because it's associated with a lot of black people and saying it to a racist

of course the racist is taking offense. But anyone normal isn't gonna see it as a problem if they got told it
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Octans
04/27/22 2:10:46 PM
#66:


Remove it or don't remove it, whatever. It's just a movie meant for entertainment. But if you want to look at Spider-Man in a way too serious sense, then the line is completely in character for Peter Parker, a mid-2000s era CEman.

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A_Good_Boy
04/27/22 2:11:55 PM
#67:


RealityDose posted...
Because Bonesaw thinks it's an insult
It's like saying to someone you like rap music because it's associated with a lot of black people and saying it to a racist

of course the racist is taking offense. But anyone normal isn't gonna see it as a problem if they got told it
The issue is that he's even using it as a cudgel at all. That insult is just as much a reflection of Spiderman as it is for Bonesaw, and when you're a family friendly superhero you shouldn't try to portray yourself to be just as much an asshole as the person you're trying to goad.

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dj1200
04/27/22 2:17:43 PM
#68:


The posts in this topic are making me XD

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AlCalavicci
04/27/22 2:18:12 PM
#69:


RealityDose posted...
Because Bonesaw thinks it's an insult
It's like saying to someone you like rap music because it's associated with a lot of black people and saying it to a racist

of course the racist is taking offense. But anyone normal isn't gonna see it as a problem if they got told it

How old are you ? Thats not an insult to you, just wondering. Growing up in that era, we used gay as an insult all the time. We didnt hate gay people, but calling a straight friend gay was meant as an insult or a put down, with an implication that the term gay means lesser or inferior or that something is wrong with it. Thats the point. Spider-Mans insult to Bonesaw is to make Bonesaw embarrassed by implying hes less than if he has a husband. Whether because its because hes less masculine or because hes gay is irrelevant, its a put down.

That wouldnt be written today. Im not mad about it being edited. I think its important to remember that it happened so we can continue having these conversations, but someone seeing it for the first time on TV can see the new edited line for all I care

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Wetterdew
04/27/22 2:20:42 PM
#70:


  • it's not a clever line or anything, it's a plain-ass "you're gay" insult, you aren't losing anything of value
  • it's normal for movie dialog to be edited for tv, this is a nothing-burger.
  • maybe if we didn't normalize using gay identities as an insult in our movies, it would be easier for gay people growing up to feel like they aren't being shamed for their identity.


anybody who has a negative reaction to this can piss off
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BlueBoy675
04/27/22 2:20:59 PM
#71:


Sictis posted...
Should've been 'mom' instead, joke would still work fine

Actually 'mommy' would be better, make it even more mocking
Meanwhile in the very first episode of Superman and Lois

Cool suit!

Thanks! My mom made it for me!

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Axiom
04/27/22 2:23:43 PM
#72:


Questionmarktarius posted...
Why worry about TV edits, at all?
Because snowflakes got to be outraged about the dumbest shit
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Seaman_Prime
04/27/22 2:24:38 PM
#73:


The correct term is husbando
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trappedunderice
04/27/22 2:28:28 PM
#74:


"Um, that's not very PC."
"I missed the part where that's my problem."
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Bass2
04/27/22 2:29:00 PM
#75:


I just saw it as trash talking.
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Wetterdew
04/27/22 2:34:51 PM
#76:


RealityDose posted...
Eh each to their own
personally I'd rather tear down a bigot by what they fear the most
he wasn't trying to tear down a bigot, he doesn't even know if bonesaw is a bigot at all lol. it was a plain-ass gay joke made by spiderman at the expense of gay people, made toward somebody he had never met before.

and if you ever DO find somebody bigoted, please stop trying to sling homophobia back at them just because they're homophobic. You might think you're being subversive because "it uses his own homophobia against him" but you aren't. by playing into his homophobia and mocking him as if he were gay, you're just strengthening his stereotypes that being gay is shameful. not tearing them down.

you're not helping us, you're just using our identity as an insult
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RealityDose
04/27/22 2:35:30 PM
#77:


Wetterdew posted...

you're not helping us, you're just using our identity as an insult

the assumptions
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Wetterdew
04/27/22 2:38:16 PM
#78:


RealityDose posted...
the assumptions
actually I'm just tired of all my straight "allies" who think they can hurl homophobia at bigots and pretend "it's ok because I'm doing it ironically and targeting his own bigotry"

it doesn't work like that, you don't get to throw homophobia around and pretend you're helping us
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yusiko
04/27/22 2:39:14 PM
#79:


Wetterdew posted...
actually I'm just tired of all my straight "allies" who think they can hurl homophobia at bigots and pretend "it's ok because I'm doing it ironically and targeting his own bigotry"

it doesn't work like that


He knows
He is playing dumb

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RealityDose
04/27/22 2:39:18 PM
#80:


Wetterdew posted...
it doesn't work like that

assumptions never do

but that's 'you' issue. ask and never assume
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RealityDose
04/27/22 2:40:17 PM
#81:


again with be
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sutree
04/27/22 2:40:41 PM
#82:


Weird that they cut this and not Uncle Ben's white supremacist speech.

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iPhone_7
04/27/22 2:42:45 PM
#83:


I cant believe they kept in the bigoted uncles lines, but this husband line from Spider-Man crosses the line lol.

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AlCalavicci
04/27/22 2:44:28 PM
#84:


What does Uncle Ben say thats bigoted ? Cant remember that part

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Prestoff
04/27/22 2:46:08 PM
#85:


AlCalavicci posted...
What does Uncle Ben say thats bigoted ? Cant remember that part

"With great power comes great responsibility. Unless you're gay in which case you're better off burning in hell for all eternity you heathen!"

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Wetterdew
04/27/22 2:48:06 PM
#86:


The only assumption I'm making here is that you're even trying to be an ally in the first place. Otherwise, there are no 'assumptions,' just me pointing out that what you said you like to do is homophobic, and that you're being a bad ally.
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Darkinsanity1
04/27/22 2:48:55 PM
#87:


Scintillant posted...
naw, too many homophobes
Nah too many who are easily offended. I say this as someone who also likes dick.

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RealityDose
04/27/22 2:49:01 PM
#88:


More BE and more assumptions

how about this: fuck off and take your bigotry to a wall? Mkay?
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VandorLee
04/27/22 2:50:50 PM
#89:


This will only get worse....

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Wetterdew
04/27/22 2:51:29 PM
#90:


RealityDose posted...
More BE and more assumptions

how about this: fuck off and take your bigotry to a wall? Mkay?
hostility is a pretty common reaction among bigoted people to being told that your attitude is demeaning to gay people
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RealityDose
04/27/22 2:51:55 PM
#91:


How is it even bad?
It's not like the line adds anything to the story
If they took out the entire Bonesaw storyline and the part about, spiderman movie 1 spoilers Ben dying then yes. But it's a fucking quip
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RealityDose
04/27/22 2:52:36 PM
#92:


alts are a thing and I use em
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Funkydog
04/27/22 2:53:32 PM
#93:


RealityDose posted...
How is it even bad?
It's not like the line adds anything to the story
If they took out the entire Bonesaw storyline and the part about, spiderman movie 1 spoilers Ben dying then yes. But it's a fucking quip
If you can't see how using being gay as an insult is homophobic...

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trappedunderice
04/27/22 2:55:25 PM
#94:


Darkinsanity1 posted...
Nah too many who are easily offended. I say this as someone who also likes dick.
Welcome to current events aka twitter 2.0
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RealityDose
04/27/22 2:57:06 PM
#95:


the BE is r eally being laid on today

I wonder if it was related to not winning the contest I had
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CrashLightning
04/27/22 3:01:05 PM
#96:


Well at least we can still watch the non edited version on DVD/Blu ray.
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Irony
04/27/22 3:01:06 PM
#97:


Prestoff posted...
"With great power comes great responsibility. Unless you're gay in which case you're better off burning in hell for all eternity you heathen!"
Smh, not buying his rice anymore

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RealityDose
04/27/22 3:02:34 PM
#98:


CrashLightning posted...
Well at least we can still watch the non edited version on DVD/Blu ray.

Again the edit isn't even bad
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Gamerguymass
04/27/22 3:17:22 PM
#99:


trappedunderice posted...
Welcome to current events aka twitter 2.0

That would be the politics board. They are reaching Resetera level of hysterics over there.

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Scintillant
04/27/22 3:24:18 PM
#100:


Darkinsanity1 posted...
Nah too many who are easily offended. I say this as someone who also likes dick.
Your opinion on this obviously trumps everyone else's, so I apologize.

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Mr_Karate_II
04/27/22 3:25:32 PM
#101:


It should be removed, it had no place in the movie. Only bigots are upset over the TV edit.

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