Current Events > So does everyone keep all their alts off their main usermap?

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Isn't that a lot of effort?

People can be arsed doing that?

Apparently, I hear people mention it all the time.

Alts are for cowards

So I'm guessing neither of you have alts that are off usermap?

30RegularUser posted...

So I'm guessing neither of you have alts that are off usermap?

The only alts I have are entirely down to having a short attention span and cant settle on a name

See, that's kind of where I am, except by that I mean I just make new accounts all the time and then use them for a bit and get bored and then make another one.

First I'm hearing of it

I don't use alts though, or haven't in a decade at least.

Is the usermap strictly IP based?

Im too lazy tbh. I dont really have a pressing need to hide my "main". >_>

Kim_Seong-a posted...

Is the usermap strictly IP based?

Im too lazy tbh. I dont really have a pressing need to hide my "main". >_>

I don't know, maybe? I don't think anyone has ever explained how they work.

30RegularUser posted...

I don't know, maybe? I don't think anyone has ever explained how they work.

That is because mods don't know how it works. Even if we did, we have an NDA that prevents us discussing it...

But yeah, I don't bother trying... too much effort for literally no benefit.

Certainly no benefit if you follow the rules! But sometimes it feels like a lot of trolls know how to do it somehow.

30RegularUser posted...

Certainly no benefit if you follow the rules! But sometimes it feels like a lot of trolls know how to do it somehow.

They sure claim to, don't they? Notice it is usually the ones on their 50th account who get suspended for every violation that say that...

So wait, all the trolls are actually unique people and not just the same 20 people with different accounts? Oh noooooo

too much effort

30RegularUser posted...

Certainly no benefit if you follow the rules!

unless you get punished even when you're following the rules

30RegularUser posted...

So wait, all the trolls are actually unique people and not just the same 20 people with different accounts? Oh noooooo

I'm saying, without being able to see usermaps, how would they even know if they kept their usermap unlinked?

30RegularUser posted...

Certainly no benefit if you follow the rules! But sometimes it feels like a lot of trolls know how to do it somehow.

You'd think so, but the administration is so lax on actually banning anyone, and ban evasion, there's really no need.

Kloe_Rinz posted...

unless you get punished even when you're following the rules

I find that unlikely.

I don't think ban evasion is actually a thing here btw.

QassTank posted...

I'm saying, without being able to see usermaps, how would they even know if they kept their usermap unlinked?

its easy. you just have to have a bit of knowledge about the type of information a website can learn about you or store on your computer. If you screw up one day and didnt notice, you'd never notice after the fact though
30RegularUser posted...

I find that unlikely.

*eyeroll*

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I find that unlikely.

Imagine using alts

Kloe_Rinz posted...

its easy. you just have to have a bit of knowledge about the type of information a website can learn about you or store on your computer. If you screw up one day and didnt notice, you'd never notice after the fact though

*eyeroll*

I mean, websites can get a LOT of information from you. Frankly, it is scary how much information they can get...

But yeah, people being moderated without breaking the rules is fairly rare, and usually only in borderline cases. I know you are going to whine about your moderation history, but literally every fucking time I check it, literally every single one of your moderations is a fair, next.
I'll even mention @AssultTank so I remember to check your history when I wake up if you want...
30RegularUser posted...

I find that unlikely.

I do too. What is more likely is that some people mark others for moderation more...

That could be true!

i remember when I was an edgy shithead of a kid, I got banned for something I'm too embarrassed to mention nowadays. I remember any time I tried to make a new account that shit went straight to read-only. so they must have some dynamic ip shit going on, idk.

QassTank posted...

I mean, websites can get a LOT of information from you. Frankly, it is scary how much information they can get...

I mean on a technical level, since thats the only level that matters in this context

QassTank posted...

people being moderated without breaking the rules is fairly rare

not as rare as they'd have you believe

QassTank posted...

I know you are going to whine about your moderation history

projection much? lol

Is there a time you feel like you were moderated and did not deserve it? Actually you don't have to give details.

I only have one other account. I've made no effort to keep the accounts on seperate usermaps or even hide the fact that it is indeed my account. Too nuch work.

Kloe_Rinz posted...

I mean on a technical level, since thats the only level that matters in this context

not as rare as they'd have you believe

projection much? lol

Dude, I am literally a mod. Check the sig.

Oh no, they lurk among us, using obvious alt names.

30RegularUser posted...

Oh no, they lurk among us, using obvious alt names.

And sigs that literally announce who they are...

<_<

I guess the follow through here is that they were violations.

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When two people who hate each other are both posting similar violations on a board at the same rate with the same karma and user level, but one is seeing more moderation. You know someone is marking them more often. It could be that people aren't marking people they agree with, even when they are spouting racial slurs or defending pedos...

Oh wait, where is this going now? This is dangerous waters.

QassTank posted...

Dude, I am literally a mod. Check the sig.

did I tell you you weren't?

Kloe_Rinz posted...

did I tell you you weren't?

It kind of sounded like you were when you suggested that he was projecting, like he had a bad moderation history.

Unless you were trying to burn him by saying you thought a mod had gotten modded a lot, which I guess you might have been doing?

30RegularUser posted...

It kind of sounded like you were when you suggested that he was projecting, like he had a bad moderation history.

i meant more vague as in his personality trait

He was projecting his personality? Ok, I probably just don't follow you this time.

ok

I guess that means you don't want to tell me what you meant. Just to be clear, not mocking you. I really don't know what you meant.

30RegularUser posted...

I guess that means you don't want to tell me what you meant. Just to be clear, not mocking you. I really don't know what you meant.

i was saying that in him implying im about to cry about my moderation history, he must have a similar personality trait he is projecting onto me

Kloe_Rinz posted...

did I tell you you weren't?

I vote on over 80% of all disputes so... I literally am one of the experts on how frequently non-violations are modded. I know based on what I see when I check that only about 1 in every 300 disputed moderations was on a non violation...

Disputed moderations are actually not all that common, so I do often browse other moderations just to keep an eye on trends to help make sure the team is consistent. I try to keep a hand in ongoing training of newer moderators to ensure we aren't hitting non-violations... It is exceedingly rare that non-violations get modded.

Funny enough, non-violations getting modded do see a spike when new mods are picked and for about 3 months after that. Our last new batch was over a year ago though, so it isn't happening right now. Almost like they are getting trained, and once they are we are fairly consistent...

QassTank posted...

I vote on over 80% of all disputes so... I literally am one of the experts on how frequently non-violations are modded. I know based on what I see when I check that only about 1 in every 300 disputed moderations was on a non violation...

In your opinion. Nobody else gets to see these so we just have to take you at your word. Obviously that isn't ideal and when its your word against theirs, its obvious why people aren't going to agree with you.

I'm not as likely to take the word of someone who gets banned a lot no offense.

30RegularUser posted...

I'm not as likely to take the word of someone who gets banned a lot no offense.

Duh

You know who says that a lot? Moose in the Archie comics.

I think I actually know way this would work after pondering about it for five minutes.

I don't see how it would be worth the trouble unless you were constantly trying to get banned by doing the worst stuff though.