Current Events > Pioneer officially coming to MTG Arena (phasing in starting now)

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GawainNerevar
04/21/22 4:48:33 PM
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https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-digital/mtg-arena-state-game-streets-new-capenna-2022-04-21?st

"Explorer" is the name for the format for now, but it's Pioneer. Thank fuck. I'm actually going to go back now. I quit when Alchemy was introduced because I didn't want to play an eternal format that was tainted by that bullshit.

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JuanCarlos1
04/21/22 4:50:04 PM
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Yeah, I havent tried Alchemy nor intend to. Pioneer being the closest thing to modern in arena does interest me.

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GawainNerevar
04/21/22 4:51:09 PM
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Only downside is I doubt there'll be a Pioneer Brawl with all the shit we had to go through to get Historic Brawl =[

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s0nicfan
04/21/22 4:52:18 PM
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What's special about pioneer? I just googled it because I wasn't familiar with the format but it looks like it's just post-ravnica standard.

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GawainNerevar
04/21/22 4:53:36 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
What's special about pioneer? I just googled it because I wasn't familiar with the format but it looks like it's just post-ravnica standard.
It's a post-(return to) ravnica eternal format yeah. I'm just glad because I prefer eternal formats and they ruined Historic which caused me to quit the game.

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Frostshock
04/21/22 5:15:44 PM
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I mostly play Hearthstone but wouldn't MTG eternal formats be plagued by the same two problems, powercreep/new mechanics invalidating old cards while at the same time the really OP stuff never goes away.

Though looking up Alchemy it seems like they took at the bad RNG stuff from Hearthstone and tried adding it to MTG so that's no good either.

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Medussa
04/21/22 5:20:08 PM
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historically, wizards has been pretty good with keeping power creep down. power level per set goes up and down, but the average tends to keep pretty even.

recently... not so much.

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GawainNerevar
04/21/22 5:24:32 PM
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Frostshock posted...
Though looking up Alchemy it seems like they took at the bad RNG stuff from Hearthstone and tried adding it to MTG so that's no good either.
Yep. That and they can just "rebalance" cards anytime in Alchemy/Historic, so instead of getting cards back for crafting when a card gets banned, they just give you a shitty version of the same card.

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GawainNerevar
04/21/22 5:34:29 PM
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Bump; forget who the Arena peeps here are

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GawainNerevar
04/21/22 6:02:24 PM
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God Kamigawa is so fucking cool. I'm glad to have a reason to play again.

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GawainNerevar
04/21/22 9:02:55 PM
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Almost makes me wish I'd kept playing Standard but I was just too disgusted with the historic situation

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