Current Events > CE how do we make the average man fuckable again?

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I'm not sure what you're referring to. Unless it's the "marking" and "warnings" I received.

In which case:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGn25URIss8

Average man today is far less masculine than men 20+ years ago. Women do not want emasculated chump weak s o i pre-puberty boys.

RIPVyseCity posted...

Buy a lifted truck. The panties drop

only to be disappointed when the drawers drop

bsp77 posted...

Tell us about your relationship status and history. Also, whether you have platonic female friends.

Eh, I don't do hook-ups or one night stands. Just serious committed relationships (because hook-ups and one night stands are literally asking for a bad life). And I've been plenty successful and they all fell apart for a variety of reasons. What more do you really need to know? I share some blame in the falling apart of them. And so do they. It's not a matter of toxicity. We all know it's about finding who is right for you.

But in the end, it is somewhere between self-improvement (never a bad thing) and also realizing you're dealing with jackasses that don't live in reality.

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The fact you even set "offensive" as being a measure of someone being wrong, tells me everything I need to know about you. Add on top of that, your ability to assume and assign bullshit to people (which you do, frequently), tells me you're hardly worth acknowledging outside of a laugh.

Lunar_Savage posted...

Eh, I don't do hook-ups or one night stands. Just serious committed relationships (because hook-ups and one night stands are literally asking for a bad life). And I've been plenty successful and they all fell apart for a variety of reasons. What more do you really need to know? I share some blame in the falling apart of them. And so do they. It's not a matter of toxicity. We all know it's about finding who is right for you.

But in the end, it is somewhere between self-improvement (never a bad thing) and also realizing you're dealing with jackasses that don't live in reality.

Okay, I will admit that there is nothing wrong with this post especially the bolded. But I will also challenge that if you don't have platonic female friends, then you likely aren't getting the whole story on the issues that everyone has with dating.

bsp77 posted...

Okay, I will admit that there is nothing wrong with this post especially the bolded. But I will also challenge that if you don't have platonic female friends, then you likely aren't getting the whole story on the issues that everyone has with dating.

I actually do have platonic female friends. I know that would melt the brains of some individuals here.

The average man is definitely fuckable.

Men just have such low standards for themselves that they think they deserve A-tier pussy on a plate for doing the bare minimum.

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Lady, you don't live in reality. That's literally how I read all of your posts. You're barking up a tree that gives zero fucks about you.

Lunar_Savage posted...

I actually do have platonic female friends. I know that would melt the brains of some individuals here.

Well, it doesn't seem like it based on your assumptions and by how you are acting toward Gladius. Are these close friends? Like tell you meaningful things about themselves? Because I find it hard to believe that you could feel this way if you truly know and support what women go through, which would be a measure of true friendship.

I support men and women, but with the way a lot guys act around here, you will often only see one side of it from me. Trust me if this was that Female Dating Strategy site, you would see a different side of me lol. Well, I would likely be kicked off in about 10 minutes.

This board is so strange.

goto the gym and wear a shirt with the bitcoin logo on it

bsp77 posted...

Well, it doesn't seem like it based on your assumptions and by how you are acting toward Gladius. Are these close friends? Like tell you meaningful things about themselves? Because I find it hard to believe that you could feel this way if you truly know and support what women go through, which would be a measure of true friendship.

I support men and women, but with the way a lot guys act around here, you will often only see one side of it from me. Trust me if this was that Female Dating Strategy site, you would see a different side of me lol. Well, I would likely be kicked off in about 10 minutes.

I treat Gladius exactly the way she deserves based on her posts.

As for the things I've said, yes. They are harsh. But then again, the platonic friends I have would probably openly agree with me (with some sort of "yes, but...").

I'm fully aware of what women go through, but I have increasingly seen a world that gives zero fucks what men go through and the answer is always "just git gud."

And no bar is ever held to women, unless it's by other women (and yes, that's an endless goddamn complaint I have heard of like no other).

So I dare to hold a bar up to them. If that upsets you, you are probably the one that needs to reexamine what is being said. And yes, I do hold bars up to men as well.

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She's never effectively countered anything I said, either.

She believes she has, of course. But her metrics of "winning" are way off.

is it more a case of these guys lack something or they have something unattractive, if it's both then in what proportion or which one takes precedence etc

still trying to decode Shania Twain

MedeaLysistrata posted...

is it more a case of these guys lack something or they have something unattractive, if it's both then in what proportion or which one takes precedence etc

still trying to decode Shania Twain

What are you talking about? The whole premise of the topic is wrong anyway.

bsp77 posted...

What are you talking about? The whole premise of the topic is wrong anyway.

i guess, if someone lacks something that prevents them from getting into a relationship as opposed to having a trait that prevents them from getting into a relationship we are talking about material changes vs personal changes. because anything someone lacks can only be obtained by changing the conditions, which are presumably always material (lol). but getting rid of something doesn't have an apparent change in material conditions so it's just a personal modification.

MedeaLysistrata posted...

i guess, if someone lacks something that prevents them from getting into a relationship as opposed to having a trait that prevents them from getting into a relationship we are talking about material changes vs personal changes. because anything someone lacks can only be obtained by changing the conditions, which are presumably always material (lol). but getting rid of something doesn't have an apparent change in material conditions so it's just a personal modification.

Gotcha. Well, my point is that the average guy is fuckable. I also think most guys can do well if they learn how to communicate, are properly groomed and set their expectations realistically. So I don't think it is as simple as lack vs has.

bsp77 posted...

Gotcha. Well, my point is that the average guy is fuckable. I also think most guys can do well if they learn how to communicate, are properly groomed and set their expectations realistically. So I don't think it is as simple as lack vs has.

ok, there is obviously a subset of people who do all those things and don't succeed. if there is a case where most average guys are fuckable, then there is certainly a reason why. if you need to communicate well, you might have to do it around people who do it better. if you need to be properly groomed you might need to do so around people who expect it to cost money, etc

There are so many reasons why a lack or a quality might get in the way of doing those things. If you ability to do those things disposes you to the bottom of the pile, then you're out of luck. or if you do all those things and have an ugly personality, you're also out of luck in some cases.

The whole point of being average is that you're within the boundary of the majority, but can still have any quality on the map so to say without losing the average status.

MedeaLysistrata posted...

ok, there is obviously a subset of people who do all those things and don't succeed. if there is a case where most average guys are fuckable, then there is certainly a reason why. if you need to communicate well, you might have to do it around people who do it better. if you need to be properly groomed you might need to do so around people who expect it to cost money, etc

There are so many reasons why a lack or a quality might get in the way of doing those things. If you ability to do those things disposes you to the bottom of the pile, then you're out of luck. or if you do all those things and have an ugly personality, you're also out of luck in some cases.

The whole point of being average is that you're within the boundary of the majority, but can still have any quality on the map so to say without losing the average status.

I am not sure if we are saying the same thing or not, but what you are describing sounds well below average. At least from a superficial level. I think a lot of guys here have great qualities but give off a well below average first impression. And there are things that can be done about that, and no they don't require a lot of money. Exercise can be free. And just simple haircuts and either shaving or trimming a beard properly costs very little. Communication and sovial skills are key and just takes practice.

bsp77 posted...

I am not sure if we are saying the same thing or not, but what you are describing sounds well below average. At least from a superficial level. I think a lot of guys here have great qualities but give off a well below average first impression. And there are things that can be done about that, and no they don't require a lot of money. Exercise can be free. And just simple haircuts and either shaving or trimming a beard properly costs very little. Communication and sovial skills are key and just takes practice.

Yeah I guess communication does take practice, not everyone has access to other people though.

MedeaLysistrata posted...

Yeah I guess communication does take practice, not everyone has access to other people though.

People are everywhere! :)