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Halo478
04/14/22 5:55:28 PM
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With super majority vote Kentucky the shit that keeps on shitting

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SSJKirby
04/14/22 5:56:04 PM
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What is democracy?

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CADE FOSTER
04/14/22 5:57:04 PM
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No such thing in republicans fascist america
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Solar_Crimson
04/14/22 5:57:10 PM
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Regressive country

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FigureOfSpeech
04/14/22 5:58:41 PM
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kentucky should fully ban kentucky tbh

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AlCalavicci
04/14/22 5:59:21 PM
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This country is too far gone

It's going to be really sad and frustrating watching it as it dies.

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hockeybub89
04/14/22 6:05:59 PM
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And yet there are women who will vote against their own best interests and loudly support this rampant fascism that establishes them as inferior to men

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PlantBased
04/14/22 6:19:29 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
And yet there are women who will vote against their own best interests and loudly support this rampant fascism that establishes them as inferior to men
That is their best interest. Conservative women aren't victims or tools. They know what they're doing. They know what they want. The reality is that they're every bit as reprehensible as their male counterparts.
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Robot2600
04/14/22 6:23:10 PM
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Let's get real: they took advantage of the opportunities legal abortion provided them, even if they never had an abortion they had the option, and now that they are too old to give birth the boomers are actively outlawing abortion.

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hockeybub89
04/14/22 6:39:05 PM
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PlantBased posted...
That is their best interest. Conservative women aren't victims or tools. They know what they're doing. They know what they want. The reality is that they're every bit as reprehensible as their male counterparts.
They are tools, though, because the men just put it in writing that women have no freedom or rights.

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mybbqrules
04/14/22 6:43:01 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
And yet there are women who will vote against their own best interests and loudly support this rampant fascism that establishes them as inferior to men
Hey, as long as black women are treated worse they'll justify it in their bigot minds.

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hockeybub89
04/14/22 6:47:45 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Don't worry. The Democrats will sit around and assume not being Republicans will keep them in office. We need a new party with the balls to protect innocents at any cost.

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Unsuprised_Pika
04/14/22 6:55:36 PM
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AlCalavicci posted...
This country is too far gone

It's going to be really sad and frustrating watching it as it dies.

I am considering moving to Canada or the EU mid to long term if we continue our conservative authoritarian corporatist slide.
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Kurt_Russel
04/14/22 6:58:07 PM
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I really hate the state I occupy...

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uwnim
04/14/22 6:58:28 PM
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PlantBased posted...
That is their best interest. Conservative women aren't victims or tools. They know what they're doing. They know what they want. The reality is that they're every bit as reprehensible as their male counterparts.
It isnt in their best interest though. Like if theyd never get an abortion, it makes no difference if it is legal or illegal. Banning it is only in the best interest of fetuses, but they cant even comprehend the concept, let alone vote.

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DrizztLink
04/14/22 6:59:48 PM
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uwnim posted...
It isnt in their best interest though. Like if theyd never get an abortion, it makes no difference if it is legal or illegal. Banning it is only in the best interest of fetuses, but they cant even comprehend the concept, let alone vote.
Oh, they do get abortions.

On the regular.

Sitting in the waiting room telling everyone else they're going to hell, the whole nine.

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dioxxys
04/14/22 7:48:24 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Trump....I mean Bidens America
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GrandConjuraton
04/14/22 7:53:18 PM
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I hate this state, and I wish I could leave, :(

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VitalGetPrank
04/14/22 8:14:23 PM
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The Sandernistas really picked the worst possible time to throw a hissy fit. We could have had a left-leaning SC had they taken their loss like an adult.

Was your protest vote worth it Sandernistas?

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kingdrake2
04/14/22 8:18:11 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
And yet there are women who will vote against their own best interests and loudly support this rampant fascism that establishes them as inferior to men


because they don't have to worry about becoming pregnant or not willing to terminate a pregnancy.

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PlantBased
04/14/22 8:55:15 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
They are tools, though, because the men just put it in writing that women have no freedom or rights.
Fascist policies aren't something right-wing men do to right-wing women. It's a collective effort between the two. The women want to harm, control, disenfranchise, and kill just as much as the men do.

uwnim posted...
It isnt in their best interest though. Like if theyd never get an abortion, it makes no difference if it is legal or illegal. Banning it is only in the best interest of fetuses, but they cant even comprehend the concept, let alone vote.
Their interests are controlling all women and society in general. This is how they do that. They are getting what they want.
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Frolex
04/14/22 9:38:17 PM
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VitalGetPrank posted...
The Sandernistas really picked the worst possible time to throw a hissy fit. We could have had a left-leaning SC had they taken their loss like an adult.

Was your protest vote worth it Sandernistas?

A larger percentage of Bernie voters voted for Hillary in the 2016 general than Hilary voters voted for Obama on 2008. Shut the fuck up weirdo.

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DrizztLink
04/14/22 9:39:21 PM
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Frolex posted...
A larger percentage of Bernie voters voted for Hillary in the 2016 general than Hilary voters voted for Obama on 2008. Shut the fuck up weirdo.
What's the ratio for Bernie voters voting for Trump?

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Intro2Logic
04/14/22 9:40:01 PM
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Had Hillary won in 2016 she would've appointed 0 Supreme Court justices and Ted Cruz would be president now

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Frolex
04/14/22 9:41:45 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
What's the ratio for Bernie voters voting for Trump?

6-12% compared to 24% of Hillary voters who switched to Mccain

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/08/24/did-enough-bernie-sanders-supporters-vote-for-trump-to-cost-clinton-the-election/

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KobeSystem
04/14/22 9:42:30 PM
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Bernie voters that voted for Trump may as well line up and take turns spitting on Bernies face tbh

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KobeSystem
04/14/22 9:43:16 PM
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Frolex posted...
6-12% compared to 24% of Hillary voters who switched to Mccain

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/08/24/did-enough-bernie-sanders-supporters-vote-for-trump-to-cost-clinton-the-election/

Lol nice

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DrizztLink
04/14/22 9:43:18 PM
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Frolex posted...
6-12% compared to 24% of Hillary voters who switched to Mccain

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/08/24/did-enough-bernie-sanders-supporters-vote-for-trump-to-cost-clinton-the-election/
Groovy, thanks.

Just wanted to check, I wasn't quite following the logic behind your original comparison.

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MixedRaceBaby
04/14/22 9:44:39 PM
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I'll never go to a KFC again

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VitalGetPrank
04/14/22 9:51:17 PM
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Frolex posted...
A larger percentage of Bernie voters voted for Hillary in the 2016 general than Hilary voters voted for Obama on 2008. Shut the fuck up weirdo.
6 years, 6 fucking years and you people are still spouting this debunked talking point. It's like you lack the mental capacity to understand basic math.

84% of Clinton voters voted for Obama: http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/04/exit.polls/

Only 74.3% of the Sanders voters voted for Clinton: https://i.imgur.com/iiyC4Eo.png

Now then, use your big boy brain for this next question, which number is bigger, 84% or 74.3%? Go

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Tyranthraxus
04/14/22 9:53:38 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
What's the ratio for Bernie voters voting for Trump?
Almost nothing.

Any Bernie supporters who voted almost certainly voted Hillary.

A much bigger deal more likely is that many Bernie supporters didn't vote at all. In fact there were a lot of Hillary supporters who didn't vote because "she obviously got this lol"

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KStateKing17
04/14/22 9:53:56 PM
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Times like this makes me wonder why we don't look to Haiti for inspiration.

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Spiritlittle
04/14/22 9:54:26 PM
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Vote out all Republicans. End that bigoted party forever.

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KobeSystem
04/14/22 9:55:22 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Almost nothing.

Any Bernie supporters who voted almost certainly voted Hillary.

A much bigger deal more likely is that many Bernie supporters didn't vote at all. In fact there were a lot of Hillary supporters who didn't vote because "she obviously got this lol"

I was one of these >_>; granted i live in Cali so its not like it mattered here but this line of thinking was dangerous in swing states fs

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VitalGetPrank
04/14/22 10:00:17 PM
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@Frolex seems to be having immense trouble answering a basic math question.

Do I need to give you a hint?

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CADE FOSTER
04/14/22 10:10:22 PM
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Spiritlittle posted...
Vote out all Republicans. End that bigoted party forever.

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KobeSystem
04/14/22 10:13:48 PM
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Are people still unironically blaming bernie bros

Only 12% defected and it didnt help that the "moderates" shunned us all the way up to the primary then beg us for our vote

All while their candidate propped up Truml cuz she thought it would be an ez win

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Robot2600
04/14/22 10:15:58 PM
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Enough bernie vs trump bullshit.

How long before Federal Court strikes this down?

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VitalGetPrank
04/14/22 10:24:22 PM
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KobeSystem posted...
Are people still unironically blaming bernie bros

Only 12% defected and it didnt help that the "moderates" shunned us all the way up to the primary then beg us for our vote
https://i.imgur.com/iiyC4Eol.png?1

This was posted earlier, try to keep up with the rest of the class. When were you shunned exactly? Clinton bent over backwards to try and appease you and you people simply weren't having it.

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Questionmarktarius
04/14/22 10:28:34 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

What five justices giveth, five justices taketh away.

We've had fifty years to codify Roe, but we've slept on "settled law" that never was.
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KobeSystem
04/14/22 10:32:21 PM
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VitalGetPrank posted...
https://i.imgur.com/iiyC4Eol.png?1

This was posted earlier, try to keep up with the rest of the class. When were you shunned exactly? Clinton bent over backwards to try and appease you and you people simply weren't having it.

It wasnt hillary specifically tho maybe im misremembering that

It was her shills such as urself. I would have voted for her but she had Cali in the bag

Also literally you people

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Intro2Logic
04/14/22 10:34:52 PM
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You can spend your time berating and antagonizing the voters you feel you can't win without, or focusing on improving the elected officials and party leadership.

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Frolex
04/14/22 10:39:57 PM
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VitalGetPrank posted...
6 years, 6 fucking years and you people are still spouting this debunked talking point. It's like you lack the mental capacity to understand basic math.

84% of Clinton voters voted for Obama: http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/04/exit.polls/

Only 74.3% of the Sanders voters voted for Clinton: https://i.imgur.com/iiyC4Eo.png

Now then, use your big boy brain for this next question, which number is bigger, 84% or 74.3%? Go

"wah wah wah, but if I ignore the figures you actually linked and instead pick the ones most charitable to my argument, the numbers are different!"
https://sites.duke.edu/hillygus/files/2014/06/hendersonhillygustompsonPOQ.pdf

Even if we take your numbers, they still prove more hillary voters were willing to help republicans win than bernie voters were. And stop @ing me for not responding after 10 minutes like i'm your favorite instagram thirst trap.
Frolex posted...
Shut the fuck up weirdo.


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nexigrams
04/15/22 12:36:12 AM
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Imagine if they spent half this effort on actually making people's lives better.

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VitalGetPrank
04/15/22 4:17:38 AM
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Frolex posted...
"wah wah wah, but if I ignore the figures you actually linked and instead pick the ones most charitable to my argument, the numbers are different!"
That's literally what you're doing right now, I started off posting sources because this is such a tired and debunked discussion that I can shut down immediately and then you had to search for hours to find something that would agree with you. Now let's take a look at your supposed proof, ah yes, the PoQ study, that's been debunked just as much.

The authors analysed the self-reported votes of 1,837 respondents, finding that of the 15% (~275) who reported voting for Clinton in the primary, 25% (~69) claims to then have voted for McCain in the general election.

Sounds damning? Except... it's all bullcrap. See for yourself by adding up the votes for Obama and McCain: 0.76 * 30 + 0.11 * 21 + 0.33* 49 vs 0.19 * 30 + 0.86 * 21 + 0.37 * 49 => 41.28% vs 41.89%. Of course, in our timeline, instead of losing by 0.61%, Obama became president in a 7.1% (52.9 to 45.7) landslide. Further red flags: Studies typically find only 2% of primary voters vote against their own candidate. Yet, in this table only 87% of Obama's primary voters reported voting for him in the general, and for McCain it's even lower, 84%.

So why is this apparently the worst poll since The Literary Digest called the election for President Alfred Landon in 1936? Simple: because it is the unweighted results of a panel survey.
Normally, opinion polls try to produce representative results by getting a certain number of responses from different demographics and modelling the population. If they don't get enough responses, they keep trying until they do. In contrast, with a panel survey, a fixed cohort of panel members are selected at the start and just keeps getting re-interviewed throughout the rest of the year. Inevitably, response rates drop off a cliff. Hence, it is conventional wisdom that panel surveys are good for showing trends of the self-reporting cohort, but useless as an prediction of the absolute numbers. This gets even worse when you try to get a subgroup of a subgroup, as the author were doing in creating this table. All 69 Hillary-McCain voter it found could just be from West Virginia, for all we know.

It makes zero sense to believe that the 25% number is accurate, when we know for fact that nearly every other number on that table is off by double digits.
Well that was pathetically easy, in your defense the math is significantly harder that basic addition that you're already failed at so can't really blame you.

Stay in school kids.

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Frolex
04/15/22 6:13:25 AM
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VitalGetPrank posted...
That's literally what you're doing right now, I started off posting sources because this is such a tired and debunked discussion that I can shut down immediately and then you had to search for hours to find something that would agree with you.

yes sweetheart, I had to "search for hours" to literally copy/past the link directly from the article I had already posted. GJ proving you didn't actually look at it, champ. Which is a shame, since if you had you'd know that figure was backed up by another separate study from the one you're complaining about. Also pretty cute how edited out the part about your own numbers still proving more hillary voters switched over to mccain. Not clever, but cute for sure

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VitalGetPrank
04/15/22 7:14:37 AM
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Frolex posted...
GJ proving you didn't actually look at it, champ.
I've been through this argument hundreds of times and you're not bringing anything new to the table, your source has already been debunked so cry more.

Frolex posted...
Also pretty cute how edited out the part about your own numbers still proving more hillary voters switched over to mccain. Not clever, but cute for sure
My point was always that Sandernistas were too butthurt to support the nominee. I don't know why you're so laser focused on one aspect of that while ignoring the bigger picture. The fact of the matter is only 74% of Sanders voters supported the nominee while 84% of Clinton voters voted for Obama. ergo everything I said rings true. You have no argument so take the L, fuck off, and learn from it so I don't have to constantly debunk your ignorant comments another thousand times.

Even if we limit things to just Sanders to Trump voters you still lose because that small group by themselves gave Trump the win, let alone the ones who voted for Stein, wrote in Sanders' name or decided to be cute and write in Harambe.

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Frolex
04/15/22 7:55:20 AM
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VitalGetPrank posted...
I've been through this argument hundreds of times and you're not bringing anything new to the table, your source has already been debunked so cry more.

The source you didn't actually look at, you mean.

VitalGetPrank posted...
My point was always that Sandernistas were too butthurt to support the nominee. I don't know why you're so laser focused on one aspect of that while ignoring the bigger picture.
come on, you make me sound like someone still trying to blame Sanders for clinton's loss more than a half decade on.


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