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Tyranthraxus
04/14/22 11:32:04 AM
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Have y'all seen Elza from FF12?

Like I don't even know where to fucking begin with this shit. How do you even dress someone wearing a thong on the outside?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/4/9/AARLwzAADIjJ.jpg

The jacket also doesn't even look like a jacket but rather just two sleeves that are tied together across her back / chest with lace or a pin and her bra has no back strap so it's like not even doing anything. It's basically just a really big pasty.

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YugiNoob
04/14/22 11:33:26 AM
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Lmfao that outside thong XD

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s0nicfan
04/14/22 11:33:35 AM
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Could be worse. You've gotta have balls to wear this kind of outfit into combat:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/5/0/AABJX0AADIjK.jpg

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masterpug53
04/14/22 11:35:47 AM
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Yeah, even at the peak of my bikini armor-loving days I thought Elza's design was pretty damn stupid. Fortunately she's a tertiary character at best.

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BakonBitz
04/14/22 11:42:11 AM
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Oh wow that outside thong...lmao

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Senta
04/14/22 11:46:17 AM
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Having played FF12 through multiple times, I dont even recall that character, and I'm someone who remembers a lot about any game I play.

I think it's clearly safe to say there is a difference in random unimportant side character compared to in your face main character.

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Tyranthraxus
04/14/22 11:47:57 AM
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Senta posted...
Having played FF12 through multiple times, I dont even recall that character, and I'm someone who remembers a lot about any game I play.

I think it's clearly safe to say there is a difference in random unimportant side character compared to in your face main character.
She's not really "unimportant" she's just only in the story for a short while towards the end. She's Reddas' first mate and has full voice acting.

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Seaman_Prime
04/14/22 11:59:42 AM
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Honestly i feel its because of the first scene you meet her where shes like in a paradise looking place with open fields of grass and a lone tree and then there she is looking like a robot cosplayer. Its just so bizarre and awkward
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MC_BatCommander
04/14/22 12:03:07 PM
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I don't get why this bad design invalidates criticism of the other badly designed characters but yeah, FF 12 has some dumb looking characters.

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teep_
04/14/22 12:08:10 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
Could be worse. You've gotta have balls to wear this kind of outfit into combat:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/5/0/AABJX0AADIjK.jpg
not sure if intentional

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s0nicfan
04/14/22 12:12:01 PM
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teep_ posted...
not sure if intentional

Completely intentional.

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Tyranthraxus
04/14/22 12:12:03 PM
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MC_BatCommander posted...
I don't get why this bad design invalidates criticism of the other badly designed characters but yeah, FF 12 has some dumb looking characters.

Not really saying it invalidates criticism just that a picture of Pyra is the first result when you search Google for "bad character design" and it doesn't deserve to be. It's not such a bad design that it's "look up the dictionary definition and find a picture" bad.

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s0nicfan
04/14/22 12:13:37 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Not really saying it invalidates criticism just that a picture of Pyra is the first result when you search Google for "bad character design" and it doesn't deserve to be. It's not such a bad design that it's "look up the dictionary definition and find a picture" bad.

In that case it's probably much more likely that the character took off in popularity after being added to smash brothers and that caused them to bump up in the results of other related searches.

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Esrac
04/14/22 12:18:00 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
In that case it's probably much more likely that the character took off in popularity after being added to smash brothers and that caused them to bump up in the results of other related searches.

Pyra isn't so bad. Rex's design is worse. And I think it is hard to find anyone with a worse design than Luso.
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Tyranthraxus
04/14/22 12:18:55 PM
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Esrac posted...
Pyra isn't so bad. Rex's design is worse. And I think it is hard to find anyone with a worse design than Luso.
Luso is the second result lol

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Protopet
04/14/22 12:22:32 PM
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Yes there are worse character designs out there but Pyra/Mythra are over designed sexualized anime girls with ridiculous clothes and big boobies. They look like they were made to appeal to teenage boys (which they were). It's understandably not everyone's cup of tea.

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NatsuSama
04/14/22 12:27:55 PM
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They are characters drawn that the artist tried to look sexy. Tries so much that it pulls off the opposite affect.

People find them bad characters for a reason.

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ImagineUsngAlts
04/14/22 12:32:04 PM
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https://people.com/style/julia-fox-instagram-tutorial-creating-sexy-t-shirt-set/

Julia Fox's fashion
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/2/1/AAMkx7AADELB.jpg
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pauIie
04/14/22 12:34:22 PM
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pyra is a shit design

this ff12 design is also a shit design

congrats i guess?

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PatrickMahomes
04/14/22 12:34:31 PM
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hot women =/= bad character design

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Prestoff
04/14/22 12:59:41 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Luso is the second result lol

He used to be the first until Pyra/Mythra reveal.

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Eab1990
04/14/22 1:09:34 PM
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People think booba is bad.

But Bradamante is cute.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/2/1/AABqeEAADIkR.jpg

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KeeperOfShadows
04/14/22 1:10:37 PM
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PatrickMahomes posted...
hot women =/= bad character design
Sex is evil, and sex appeal is eviler.

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BakonBitz
04/14/22 1:57:54 PM
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NatsuSama posted...
People find them bad characters for a reason.
Pyra/Mythra, bad characters?

Sure their designs are bad, but...everything else about them isn't.

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rexcrk
04/14/22 2:05:49 PM
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Those people are probably just bitter because theyve never been touched by a woman


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megamanfreakXD
04/14/22 2:05:52 PM
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But anime tiddies

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MorganTJ
04/14/22 10:32:10 PM
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I actually don't mind Mythra's design. I just don't believe that someone with Pyra's demure personality would wear her outfit. She even has idle dialogue that she's self-conscious that she has the glowing tron lines. She would definitely cover up, even if it's just with the cloak that she wears towards the beginning of the game.
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RyukSan
04/15/22 5:32:18 PM
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Characters with breast sizes so big it's actually trashy and comical. Pyra in particular being the far worst of the 2. Is it really all that shocking why people say they have a bad design?
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NeonOctopus
04/15/22 5:35:25 PM
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I think they're great! I'm glad to see some modern heroes who represent women with big breasts that they can look up to!

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Guide
04/15/22 5:36:57 PM
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PatrickMahomes posted...
hot women =/= bad character design

Do you have a standard for character design concerning hot women? Like, do you have a particular hot women you could say has bad design, and then point to one that has good design as contrast?

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Turbam
04/15/22 5:37:38 PM
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They have good character designs because they're hot

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Tyranthraxus
04/15/22 5:39:33 PM
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RyukSan posted...
Characters with breast sizes so big it's actually trashy and comical. Pyra in particular being the far worst of the 2. Is it really all that shocking why people say they have a bad design?

Her breasts aren't comically large they're DDs at best.

A bigger issue is her completely unrealistic waist to hips ratio.

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