Current Events > Xbox Series S/X has outsold PS5 for months now. Did so again this week

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Talk2DaHand
04/12/22 12:29:24 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/4/5/AAN3wfAADIIh.jpg

Crazy how Xbox has bounced back from the ho-hum One days. Phil Spencer isn't joking around.

https://www.vgchartz.com/article/453237/xbox-series-xs-outsells-ps5-again-worldwide-hardware-estimates-for-mar-27-apr-2/

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Fony
04/12/22 12:30:06 PM
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Microsoft bought more capacity at TSMC.

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6cc
04/12/22 12:30:50 PM
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This really doesn't mean anything, and Xbox was available on Amazon for a couple days which is why.

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AlCalavicci
04/12/22 12:31:04 PM
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does the XBOX series S/X have better availability than PS5?

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CM_Ponch
04/12/22 12:31:20 PM
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It's because the PS5 is unpurchasable

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Talk2DaHand
04/12/22 12:31:32 PM
#6:


Fony posted...
Microsoft bought more capacity at TSMC.


Those that can, do. Perhaps Sony should do the same. Perhaps they can't.

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Irony
04/12/22 12:31:40 PM
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Seems legit

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eston
04/12/22 12:31:42 PM
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That's because you can finally buy them in stores

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Dakimakura
04/12/22 12:32:19 PM
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If it wasn't for Japan PS would be dun.

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Fony
04/12/22 12:32:27 PM
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AlCalavicci posted...
does the XBOX series S/X have better availability than PS5?

Yes, it does now. Microsoft paid for more chip capacity from TSMC.

Talk2DaHand posted...
Those that can, do. Perhaps Sony should do the same. Perhaps they can't.

TSMC 7nm is all booked. M$ slid in when some extra capacity was available. Sony can do the same but they'll have to wait. At this point in time, it may be waiting for the inveitable 6nm/5nm refresh of the PS5 chips.

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TheVipaGTS
04/12/22 12:33:56 PM
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Microsoft has better availability now because more people were buying PlayStations early on. There were times where the series S would be available for hours with no worries. Now that people are realizing they cant get a PlayStation yet, some are settling for Xbox for the time being.

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LostForest
04/12/22 12:34:21 PM
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I mean, in fairness, the Xbox brand genuinely has a lot of pro-consumer practices so I'm happy to see them get out of that rut.

Lol at those Japan numbers though. That's brutal.

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Talk2DaHand
04/12/22 12:34:59 PM
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AlCalavicci posted...
does the XBOX series S/X have better availability than PS5?

Series S was a genius move. Yes

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Jagr_68
04/12/22 12:37:23 PM
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People got tired of waiting for PS5 restocks so they're in Settle Mode.


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Talk2DaHand
04/12/22 12:38:57 PM
#15:


Jagr_68 posted...
People got tired of waiting for PS5 restocks so they're in Settle Mode.


TheVipaGTS posted...
Microsoft has better availability now because more people were buying PlayStations early on. There were times where the series S would be available for hours with no worries. Now that people are realizing they cant get a PlayStation yet, some are settling for Xbox for the time being.


So Xbox is poaching costumers? Nice

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MC_BatCommander
04/12/22 12:40:42 PM
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Not surprised with how shitty PS5 stock is, just the other day I saw Series X was readily available on Amazon

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Suolevram
04/12/22 12:42:48 PM
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I don't understand the need to have a system as soon as it launches. Nothing wrong with playing previous gen systems. Why get caught in the rat race?

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TheVipaGTS
04/12/22 12:43:41 PM
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Talk2DaHand posted...
So Xbox is poaching costumers? Nice
For now yea. The Series S was a great move as the price point is low and you can still play new games. People will still want the power of a PS5 but for the time being its easier to justify the lower cost of the Series S now even if you still plan to get a PS5. If it was just series X I dont think the numbers would be as high.

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NoxObscuras
04/12/22 12:48:29 PM
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Don't they both still sell out? This would just be a difference in available stock then. This is good either way though.

The more new consoles get into players hands, the sooner we can leave the old gen behind. Games load so fast when they're designed to take advantage of those SSD's. I'm ready for that to be the standard.

LostForest posted...
Lol at those Japan numbers though. That's brutal.
Lol yeah, Xbox has always had a rough time in Japan.

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Jagr_68
04/12/22 12:49:12 PM
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Suolevram posted...
I don't understand the need to have a system as soon as it launches. Nothing wrong with playing previous gen systems. Why get caught in the rat race?

I was pretty satisfied with my PS4 but then a Walmart PS5 restock happened early last year so I was like fuck it, why not and managed to buy one.

Some have intense FOMO for new technology and they want bigger, better bells and whistles out of a game console as well as the newfound BC capabilities both consoles offer. It is what it is.

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Fony
04/12/22 12:51:10 PM
#21:


Suolevram posted...
I don't understand the need to have a system as soon as it launches. Nothing wrong with playing previous gen systems. Why get caught in the rat race?

PS5 came out 11/12/2020

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Turbam
04/12/22 12:52:09 PM
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Nintendo bringing in DIMES as usual

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TheVipaGTS
04/12/22 12:52:51 PM
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Suolevram posted...
I don't understand the need to have a system as soon as it launches. Nothing wrong with playing previous gen systems. Why get caught in the rat race?
Were going on nearly 2 years now. Enough people have moved on and online gaming is big enough to make people want to upgrade. The scarcity is contributing too.

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Talk2DaHand
04/12/22 12:59:36 PM
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Turbam posted...
Nintendo bringing in DIMES as usual

Now hear me out
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/6/5/AAN3wfAADII1.jpg


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TendoDRM
04/12/22 12:59:43 PM
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Suolevram posted...
I don't understand the need to have a system as soon as it launches. Nothing wrong with playing previous gen systems. Why get caught in the rat race?

I still had the base Xbox One and PS4, so the Series X and PS5 were good upgrades for me for the BC titles alone. Plus, I have money to spare on them, and I game a lot.

And as mentioned, it's been almost 1 and a half years now since they released.

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NoxObscuras
04/12/22 1:01:07 PM
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Suolevram posted...
I don't understand the need to have a system as soon as it launches. Nothing wrong with playing previous gen systems. Why get caught in the rat race?
For me, it improves the graphics and load times of old games, while also letting me play new exclusives. No reason to wait for that upgrade. I know the new console will last me for years.

The only difference this gen is that covid really messed up the availability. Normally, it's not a rat race to get the new console.

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Smackems
04/12/22 1:02:56 PM
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6cc posted...
This really doesn't mean anything, and Xbox was available on Amazon for a couple days which is why.
Also Walmart and probably others

Shakes out this way when you can't fuckin find one of them

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Srk700
04/12/22 1:04:45 PM
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Yeah this is because if you don't get a PS5 like within a minute (and that's being generous) of being avaliable you aren't getting it. The XSX/S doesn't sell out anywhere near as fast.
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Talk2DaHand
04/12/22 1:07:50 PM
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Srk700 posted...
Yeah this is because if you don't get a PS5 like within a minute of being avaliable you aren't getting it. The XSX/S doesn't sell out anywhere near as fast.


And it is still selling more. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/7/1/AAN3wfAADII7.jpg

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MadDewg
04/12/22 1:08:22 PM
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Suolevram posted...
I don't understand the need to have a system as soon as it launches. Nothing wrong with playing previous gen systems. Why get caught in the rat race?
Because playing janky frame rate PS4 games like earth defense force 5, one piece pirate warriors 3, and Ys monstrum nox on my PS5 with basically non-existent slowdown/a hardlocked 60 fps is a very beautiful thing.

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Solar_Crimson
04/12/22 1:12:22 PM
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CM_Ponch posted...
It's because the PS5 is unpurchasable


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Fony
04/12/22 1:12:54 PM
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Smackems posted...
Also Walmart and probably others

Shakes out this way when you can't fuckin find one of them

Srk700 posted...
Yeah this is because if you don't get a PS5 like within a minute (and that's being generous) of being avaliable you aren't getting it. The XSX/S doesn't sell out anywhere near as fast.

6cc posted...
This really doesn't mean anything, and Xbox was available on Amazon for a couple days which is why.


Uh, none of this increases the actual number of consoles made or sold. Sony initially had a larger order at the chip maker's factory(TSMC), so they actually made more consoles than Microsoft a year ago. Hence PS5 was actually selling more units despite both systems selling 100% of their stock. There are more Xbox consoles being produced now. That's why the actual sales figure is higher for Xbox now.

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Talk2DaHand
04/12/22 2:04:31 PM
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Fony posted...
Uh, none of this increases the actual number of consoles made or sold. Sony initially had a larger order at the chip maker's factory(TSMC), so they actually made more consoles than Microsoft a year ago. Hence PS5 was actually selling more units despite both systems selling 100% of their stock. There are more Xbox consoles being produced now. That's why the actual sales figure is higher for Xbox now.

It was Xbox using a big % of their SoC for xCloud that limited their sales. They've always been getting more chips than Sony.

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JuanCarlos1
04/12/22 2:07:51 PM
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eston posted...
That's because you can finally buy them in stores

This. Ive seen series X in various walmarts now. So its a matter of availability and people settling for xbox for a next gen experience.

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DarkRoast
04/12/22 2:08:06 PM
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These sales numbers are absolutely meaningless, especially when counting the Series X and PS5.

Plus, putting the Series S in the same category with X is obviously misleading since Series S was the only thing in stock for the past year (because it was in much larger supply).


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Fony
04/12/22 2:08:53 PM
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Talk2DaHand posted...
It was Xbox using a big % of their SoC for xCloud that limited their sales. They've always been getting more chips than Sony.

MS does use the new chips for the cloud, but they did have fewer chips than Sony.

According to Taiwanese site Commercial Times, a total of 120,000 wafers were set aside in the fourth quarter of this year for producing the socs featured on the PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X / S. With 78,000 to 80,000 units, two thirds of this would be for Sony, the remaining 40,000 for Microsoft.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wafer_(electronics)

Sony is partnering with TSMC to build an entirely new fab for PS5 chips, while MS has asked AMD to allocate more chips for Xbox.

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KeeperOfShadows
04/12/22 2:09:48 PM
#37:


Does either system have more than 2 games worth playing yet?

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Tyranthraxus
04/12/22 2:09:51 PM
#38:


Talk2DaHand posted...
Now hear me out
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/6/5/AAN3wfAADII1.jpg
Is this what happens if you plank for a minute a day?

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Talk2DaHand
04/12/22 2:11:09 PM
#39:


DarkRoast posted...
Plus, putting the Series S in the same category with X is obviously misleading since Series S was the only thing in stock for the past year (because it was in much larger supply).

They should be counted as one. Both are same gen and same platform.


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MrDrMan
04/12/22 2:15:34 PM
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JuanCarlos1 posted...
This. Ive seen series X in various walmarts now. So its a matter of availability and people settling for xbox for a next gen experience.

People need to stop saying this. Sure some people got one due to availability but Xbox has also made some huge changes this gen.

Even with both available I would go Xbox because Game Pass is just that good. I say this as a lifelong Sony fan.

Give credit where its due.

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Bio1590
04/12/22 2:18:13 PM
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One thing I'm gathering from this chart is that Sony is sending too many PS5s to Japan.

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Smackems
04/12/22 2:59:28 PM
#42:


Fony posted...
Uh, none of this increases the actual number of consoles made or sold. Sony initially had a larger order at the chip maker's factory(TSMC), so they actually made more consoles than Microsoft a year ago. Hence PS5 was actually selling more units despite both systems selling 100% of their stock. There are more Xbox consoles being produced now. That's why the actual sales figure is higher for Xbox now.
Don't know why you quoted me for this

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Smackems
04/12/22 3:00:06 PM
#43:


MrDrMan posted...
People need to stop saying this. Sure some people got one due to availability but Xbox has also made some huge changes this gen.

Even with both available I would go Xbox because Game Pass is just that good. I say this as a lifelong Sony fan.

Give credit where its due.
Kept their shit ui

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Talk2DaHand
04/12/22 3:03:28 PM
#44:


Smackems posted...
Kept their shit ui


It is completely customizable and straightforward. What you mean? I went from PS4 to Xbox Series S/X and love the Xbox UI and ecosystem

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LostForest
04/12/22 3:08:17 PM
#45:


MrDrMan posted...
People need to stop saying this. Sure some people got one due to availability but Xbox has also made some huge changes this gen.

Even with both available I would go Xbox because Game Pass is just that good. I say this as a lifelong Sony fan.

Give credit where its due.

They won't, because Sony shills are the last holdouts of the console wars. Everyone got over it except for PlayStation fanatics.

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DarkRoast
04/12/22 3:10:11 PM
#46:


Talk2DaHand posted...
It is completely customizable and straightforward. What you mean? I went from PS4 to Xbox Series S/X and love the Xbox UI and ecosystem

It used to be stupidly cluttered back when they went with the Windows 8-ish Metro UI

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KamenRiderBlade
04/12/22 3:14:31 PM
#47:


Fony posted...
Microsoft bought more capacity at TSMC.
The issue is that there are a supply chain shortage.

If any 1x component is not available, then manufacturing grinds to a halt.

This, on top of:
- The shipping backlog / debacle / Global Supply Chain issues on getting things to their destination
- Bots/Scalpers for PS5

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DarkRoast
04/12/22 3:27:53 PM
#48:


The supply chain shortage hit more advanced components, hence why Series S was easy to find but Series X wasn't.

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RchHomieQuanChi
04/12/22 3:39:41 PM
#49:


I've found it to be far easier to get an Xbox Series X than a PS5

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Ratchetrockon
04/12/22 3:42:18 PM
#50:


Yay xbox is winning

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