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WorsCaseOntario
04/08/22 2:39:44 PM
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Only in America can someone unironically think America is just like Nazi Germany.

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MFBKBass5
04/08/22 2:41:31 PM
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Damn, that sucks. I was usually one of the only white kids in most of my elementary school classes. Had plenty of black teachers growing up. Learned a lot of different perspectives growing up in the inner city.

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MFBKBass5
04/08/22 2:42:12 PM
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WorsCaseOntario posted...
Only in America can someone unironically think America is just like Nazi Germany.

Imagine reading through this topic and then forming this thought.

Not a single person here has said that, but ok

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averagejoel
04/08/22 2:43:11 PM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
I would argue that not rounding everyone up and murdering them on an industrial scale while simultaneously trying to conquer all of Europe is a reasonable metric.
the US was literally founded on a genocide which is still ongoing. yes, there are currently fewer people in the targeted groups. whoop dee doo. have you considered why that's the case?

Nazi Germany was not some singular unique evil

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Atralis
04/08/22 2:44:22 PM
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averagejoel posted...
the US was literally founded on a genocide which is still ongoing. yes, there are currently fewer people in the targeted groups. whoop dee doo. have you considered why that's the case?

Nazi Germany was not some singular unique evil

What are you even talking about? Indian reservations? They aren't ideal but the US just sending money and food to reservations that people can freely come and go from isn't what I would call genocide.
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averagejoel
04/08/22 2:45:48 PM
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Atralis posted...
What are you even talking about? Indian reservations? They aren't ideal but the US just sending money and food to reservations that people can freely come and go from isn't what I would call genocide.
okay. then when did it stop being a genocide?

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angeleyes94
04/08/22 2:46:43 PM
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WorsCaseOntario posted...
Only in America can someone unironically think America is just like Nazi Germany.


If america is so bad why not move to Venezuela, Liberia, Kenya, China or Saudi Arabia?

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justaguy3492
04/08/22 2:46:49 PM
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Atralis posted...
What are you even talking about? Indian reservations? They aren't ideal but the US just sending money and food to reservations that people can freely come and go from isn't what I would call genocide.

Lmao. How do you think Native Americans went from having a whole continent to pretty much just reservations?

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Atralis
04/08/22 2:47:45 PM
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averagejoel posted...
okay. then when did it stop being a genocide?

When instead of killing them we put them on reservations and fed them for generations up to the present day? Do you really not see the difference between that and if we had decided to just whipe them out?
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averagejoel
04/08/22 2:51:45 PM
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Atralis posted...
When instead of killing them we put them on reservations and fed them for generations up to the present day? Do you really not see the difference between that and if we had decided to just whipe them out?
when did they stop being killed? give me a date. even just a year.

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WorsCaseOntario
04/08/22 2:53:54 PM
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angeleyes94 posted...
If america is so bad why not move to Venezuela, Liberia, Kenya, China or Saudi Arabia?
I wonder where the Soviets fit into all of this. They actually were just as bad as the Nazis

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Baha05
04/08/22 2:56:09 PM
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MFBKBass5 posted...
time frames matter

So you dont understand the concept of history, do you?
I do but do you understand how time frames and periods work? Human History by all means is ever changing after all and with all recorded history we know of you have to take those facts into consideration.

Im not saying this country (US) is or was perfect but in terms if the question you asked the answer is yes because for all the fucked up things we did and are doing as a country at that point in time Germany was worse.

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averagejoel
04/08/22 2:57:44 PM
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Baha05 posted...
Im not saying this country (US) is or was perfect but in terms if the question you asked the answer is yes because for all the fucked up things we did and are doing as a country at that point in time Germany was worse.
it's much, much, much more subjective than you realize

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Baha05
04/08/22 2:58:34 PM
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averagejoel posted...
it's much, much, much more subjective than you realize
Possibly but in terms of what fucked up shit we were doing during that time frame versus Germany should be clear as fucking day.

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averagejoel
04/08/22 2:59:25 PM
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Baha05 posted...
Possibly but in terms of what fucked up shit we were doing during that time frame versus Germany should be clear as fucking day.
maybe it would have been clear as fucking day if the US weren't doing all that fucked up shit!

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Baha05
04/08/22 3:01:20 PM
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averagejoel posted...
maybe it would have been clear as fucking day if the US weren't doing all that fucked up shit!
Not how that works in the comparison. At the end of the day TC asked a very specific question and got answered and didnt like the answers that didnt align with his opinions

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ManaYuka
04/08/22 3:05:35 PM
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WorsCaseOntario posted...
I wonder where the Soviets fit into all of this. They actually were just as bad as the Nazis

The fairy tale/crappy entertainment with good guys and bad guys screws our perspective and make us think arbitrarily.

In real life its always evil vs evil. Not good vs evil. One side is usually the lesser evil, but still evil.

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SomeGuyUO
04/08/22 3:07:34 PM
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Didn't someone in the USA create a database of Jews in America for Hitler in case Nazi Germany won and took over?
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Nemu
04/08/22 3:07:55 PM
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If you're comparing the US of that timeframe with the Germany of that timeframe, Germany is incomparably worse. If we want to compare the entirety of the last 400 years of both countries, then you can make some different arguments.
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IShall_Run_Amok
04/08/22 3:09:35 PM
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Atralis posted...
When instead of killing them we put them on reservations and fed them for generations up to the present day? Do you really not see the difference between that and if we had decided to just whipe them out?
Oh, ghettos, nice.

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ScazarMeltex
04/08/22 3:18:29 PM
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Atralis posted...
When instead of killing them we put them on reservations and fed them for generations up to the present day? Do you really not see the difference between that and if we had decided to just whipe them out?
Holy fuck dude, go do some reading and come back. The Indian Ring is just one example of how we continued killing them. So on reservations the Indians would get supplies from the Feds. The Feds would pay companies to deliver the supplies. The companies would buy the cheapest nastiest, often rotten, food that they could and keep the excess money as profits. Then when the Natives couldn't live on that food they would go off the reservation to hunt or steal, which would give the military an excuse to move them again, or oftentimes just kill a shitload of them. This grift was widely known and accepted by those in government, a good chunk of whom owned an interest in the companies getting paid to deliver supplies. Fuck off with this nonsense that the reservations weren't part of a genocide.

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Unknown5uspect
04/08/22 3:20:17 PM
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ManaYuka posted...
You need to actually learn our history. We still had slaves in the south up until 1941.

https://www.newsweek.com/book-american-slavery-continued-until-1941-93231

Last I checked, 1941 was during WWII.
Pockets of slavery existed into the 1960s

https://www.vice.com/en/article/437573/blacks-were-enslaved-well-into-the-1960s

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MFBKBass5
04/08/22 3:33:39 PM
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Baha05 posted...
Not how that works in the comparison. At the end of the day TC asked a very specific question and got answered and didnt like the answers that didnt align with his opinions

lol what are you even talking about? The responses and answers I got ITT were great.

there were a lot of great answers to my question. Sorry you still dont understand how history works bruh

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Baha05
04/08/22 3:34:46 PM
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MFBKBass5 posted...
lol what are you even talking about? The responses and answers I got ITT were great.

there were a lot of great answers to my question. Sorry you still dont understand how history works bruh
This is more cement ming yourself as a troll there.

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MFBKBass5
04/08/22 3:36:02 PM
#76:


Baha05 posted...
This is more cement ming yourself as a troll there.

Not trolling at all, you just seem to think that history should only be viewed at a very specific time frame decided by you. Its silly and you look like a fool for your narrow view of how the world works.

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Baha05
04/08/22 3:38:37 PM
#77:


MFBKBass5 posted...
Not trolling at all, you just seem to think that history should only be viewed at a very specific time frame decided by you. Its silly and you look like a fool for your narrow view of how the world works.

gg

If your topic is asking a very specific question about a very specific time frame then yes thats how these things would be viewed. Otherwise when you start to add things not related to the current discussion you are changing the topic at hand to better try and suit your own bias. Which makes this at most a dishonest topic.


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Kaldrenthebold
04/08/22 3:42:47 PM
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The fuck is this topic?

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MFBKBass5
04/08/22 3:47:15 PM
#79:


Baha05 posted...
If your topic is asking a very specific question about a very specific time frame then yes thats how these things would be viewed. Otherwise when you start to add things not related to the current discussion you are changing the topic at hand to better try and suit your own bias. Which makes this at most a dishonest topic.


You still have no concept as to how history works, considering you keep referring to a specific time frame.

thats not how history works.

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masterpug53
04/08/22 3:47:40 PM
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Baha05 posted...
This is more cement ming yourself as a troll there.

Yup, TC's a Regular Cement Ming the Merciless.

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Baha05
04/08/22 3:56:41 PM
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MFBKBass5 posted...
You still have no concept as to how history works, considering you keep referring to a specific time frame.

thats not how history works.
If your question is based on a specific time period then yes thats how that works. Otherwise you are creating a topic that is looking for ways to be as dishonest as possible.

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