Current Events > Ms. Pac-Man replaced with new character 'Pac-Mom' in Arcade Archives' Pac-Land

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Hayame Zero
04/07/22 4:25:48 PM
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https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/ms-pac-man-has-been-removed-from-switchs-pac-land-re-release-due-to-a-dispute/

tl;dr Bandai Namco still doesn't own Ms. Pac-Man, and they're just replacing her

A new Arcade Archives port of Pac-Land has replaced Ms Pac-Man with a new character, likely due to an ongoing dispute over royalty rights.

As spotted by a Twitter user, when players return to Pac-Mans home in the game they are no longer greeted by Ms Pac-Man, but instead by a new character who wears a pink hat.

According to Ryan Silberman, who contributed to the book Pac-Man: Birth of an Icon, the new character appears in the upcoming Pac-Man Museum+ and seems to be called Pac-Mom.

The new sprite appears to be the latest attempt from Bandai Namco to keep Ms Pac-Man out of its games, at least until it resolves an ongoing dispute over rights to the characters royalties.

The original Ms Pac-Man game was not a Namco creation. It was originally a modded version of the game called Crazy Otto which was made by a group of programmers at the General Computer Corporation (GCC) in the US.

Midway, who had the rights to release Pac-Man in North America, wanted to release a sequel but Namco hadnt provided one, so Midway agreed to buy the rights to Crazy Otto from GCC, with the two working together to turn it into Ms Pac-Man.

When Namcos licensing deal with Midway was terminated in 1984 (reportedly because it didnt authorise the decision to release Ms Pac-Man), the rights to the Ms Pac-Man name went to Namco. However, GCC had already agreed a royalty deal with Midway, meaning it would get royalties any time Ms Pac-Man was used.

Although a further royalties deal between Bandai Namco and GCC was made in 2008, there are reportedly some royalties issues that remain unresolved.

These were further complicated in 2019 when AtGames, a company that specialises in mini retro consoles and handhelds, released a Ms Pac-Man mini arcade cabinet, despite Bandai Namco claiming it never gave permission to do so.

Bandai Namco sued AtGames, who one week later did a deal with GCC to acquire the Ms Pac-Man royalties interest allegedly owed to it.
Since then, Bandai Namco has seemingly made efforts to ensure that Ms Pac-Man doesnt appear in any of its games, so as to avoid further complicating the royalties dispute.

The upcoming Pac-Man Museum+, which is released on May 27, contains 14 Pac-Man games in one collection, but Ms Pac-Man is notably absent.
Pac-Land will be in the compilation, but presumably Ms Pac-Man will once again be replaced by Pac-Mom.

https://twitter.com/nickisonlinet/status/1511758757218463748?s=20&t=xojsezNApF4m_God-YmmXQ

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Robot2600
04/07/22 4:26:53 PM
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No Ms. Pac-Man, no fucking sale.

You had 1 job, Namco, and you fucked it up.

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Hayame Zero
04/08/22 11:32:36 AM
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Bump

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BeyondWalls
04/08/22 11:34:05 AM
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This is bullshit!

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Mezcla
04/08/22 11:34:51 AM
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look im not gonna sit here and read the article

all i know is that DA LIBERALS AND THEY AGENDA DID THIS

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HylianFox
04/08/22 11:35:37 AM
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You know, I don't think it's ever been confirmed that Pac and Ms. Pac are married and are the parents of Pac Jr.

After all, she is Ms. Pac-Man and not Mrs.

hmm...

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FortuneCookie
04/08/22 11:39:45 AM
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Pac-Mom is gonna get MILF porn based off of her name alone.
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HylianFox
04/08/22 11:40:53 AM
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The real question is: Is this a bigger offense than giving the Green M&M different shoes?

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BeyondWalls
04/08/22 11:42:42 AM
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HylianFox posted...
You know, I don't think it's ever been confirmed that Pac and Ms. Pac are married and are the parents of Pac Jr.

After all, she is Ms. Pac-Man and not Mrs.

hmm...
How dare you, sir.
Pepper is an honest woman.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pac-Man_(TV_series)

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Questionmarktarius
04/08/22 11:44:17 AM
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Yet again, another collection pretending Baby Pac-Man never existed.

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Darkraiomb
04/08/22 11:47:42 AM
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Oh no! =O

Anyway....

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Ivynn
04/08/22 11:50:23 AM
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So she's his mom now instead of his wife? I'm confused about this change to Pac-Man lore.

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NoxObscuras
04/08/22 11:52:49 AM
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Interesting. I never knew Namco didn't own the rights to Ms Pac Man.

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Gobstoppers12
04/08/22 11:54:52 AM
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NoxObscuras posted...
Interesting. I never knew Namco didn't own the rights to Ms Pac Man.
They sort of do, but there's a royalties entanglement in place because of a deal made before the rights came back to them. It's a lot like why Disney is able to use The Hulk in movies no problem, but resists the urge to release solo Hulk films on account of rights entanglements with Universal.

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Nemu
04/08/22 11:55:27 AM
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Ms. Pac-Man got a reduction.
Cubert got a reduction.
Dig Dug got a reduction.
There is a pattern here.
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CalosiaTana
04/08/22 11:57:32 AM
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I am shocked and appalled!

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bigblu89
04/08/22 1:32:06 PM
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Someone, somewhere is having a meltdown about this on Twitter.

"Having her watching the children and calling her 'Pac-Mom' while Pac-Man goes out and does all the work just perpetuates stereotypical gender roles!"

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NeonOctopus
04/08/22 1:32:58 PM
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HylianFox posted...
You know, I don't think it's ever been confirmed that Pac and Ms. Pac are married and are the parents of Pac Jr.

After all, she is Ms. Pac-Man and not Mrs.

hmm...
They had him out of wedlock

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Returning_CEmen
04/08/22 1:33:09 PM
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That game was hard

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GameGodOfAll
04/08/22 1:33:15 PM
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What a bizarre decision to make.

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Hoodroar
04/08/22 1:36:43 PM
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Cheap bastards!

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EmbraceOfDeath
04/08/22 1:36:43 PM
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I would expect people here to love the new character tbh.

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Unknown580
04/08/22 1:37:46 PM
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Mezcla posted...
look im not gonna sit here and read the article

all i know is that DA LIBERALS AND THEY AGENDA DID THIS
Proof?
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LostForest
04/08/22 1:38:11 PM
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Oh weird, I didn't know about the licensing mess. Ya learn something new everyday

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Ratchetrockon
04/08/22 1:41:49 PM
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oh well i think pac-mom looks better

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HylianFox
04/08/22 1:42:24 PM
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NeonOctopus posted...
They had him out of wedlock

That's the most likely scenario, yes

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Ratchetrockon
04/08/22 1:42:51 PM
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pac-mom is the one in pink right? i really don't know tbh since I don't follow pacman lore

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Solar_Crimson
04/08/22 1:43:02 PM
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I wonder if Nintendo had to pay royalties due to Ms. Pac-Man appearing in the Pac-Land stage in Smash?

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eston
04/08/22 1:49:13 PM
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Trademark law must have been pretty lax back then, because if anyone tried that now their company would get ass-blasted into the next millennium

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HylianFox
04/08/22 1:49:25 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
I wonder if Nintendo had to pay royalties due to Ms. Pac-Man appearing in the Pac-Land stage in Smash?

I really do wish she was available as an alt costume for Pac-Man (like the Koopalings)

Ms. Pac-Man >>> Pac-Man

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HylianFox
04/08/22 1:51:38 PM
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eston posted...
Trademark law must have been pretty lax back then, because if anyone tried that now their company would get ass-blasted into the next millennium

I truly is remarkable that Namco not only decided to not sue Ms. Pac-Man's creators into oblivion, but chose to absorb her into the franchise

I wish Nintendo would do that more often...

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KFHEWUI
04/08/22 2:20:11 PM
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NoxObscuras posted...
Interesting. I never knew Namco didn't own the rights to Ms Pac Man.

It is a really messy situation.

The complicated rights situation behind Ms. Pac-Man is at the heart of a legal battle between Bandai Namcowhich owns the Ms. Pac-Man trademark and copyrightand retro hardware maker AtGameswhich has now purchased the separately held royalty rights to the game.

According to a federal lawsuit filed by Bandai Namco this week, the company had been negotiating with the successors to that GCC deal in order to "resolve the relationship" the two companies had with the game (presumably to acquire the royalty rights under the Bandai Namco umbrella). That agreement was on the verge of being signed, Bandai Namco says, when AtGames swooped in and acquired GCC's royalty rights for itself this fall.

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2019/09/the-rights-to-ms-pac-man-are-caught-in-a-messy-legal-battle/

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Dakimakura
04/08/22 2:45:21 PM
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ProfessorKukui posted...
Pac-MILF

can't wait for the porn

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HylianFox
04/08/22 3:12:37 PM
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It is worth noting that an alternate version of Ms. Pac-Man can also be found in the Midway version of the original arcade game as well

https://tcrf.net/Pac-Land_(Arcade)

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Lil_Bit83
04/08/22 3:24:39 PM
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Why doesn't namco own the rights to Ms. Pac-Man? Didn't they release her game on those 1Up Mini arcade cabinets a while back?

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Lil_Bit83
04/08/22 3:26:31 PM
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Hayame Zero posted...
https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/ms-pac-man-has-been-removed-from-switchs-pac-land-re-release-due-to-a-dispute/

tl;dr Bandai Namco still doesn't own Ms. Pac-Man, and they're just replacing her

https://twitter.com/nickisonlinet/status/1511758757218463748?s=20&t=xojsezNApF4m_God-YmmXQ
Oh

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Hayame Zero
04/08/22 4:50:04 PM
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Lil_Bit83 posted...
Why doesn't namco own the rights to Ms. Pac-Man? Didn't they release her game on those 1Up Mini arcade cabinets a while back?
Ms. Pac-Man was a mod made by college students that was allowed to be released by Midway. Namco was loose with the IP then, but not so much now

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CapnMuffin
04/08/22 4:51:32 PM
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