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Fan of god mode myself because sometimes I just want to replay a game for the story.

A and B. Challenge mode is pretty cool, and so is regular just play again stuff.

A, then B, then A and B.

Everything carries over. As far as I know, only Chrono Trigger got it right.

CaptainStrong posted...

As far as I know, only Chrono Trigger got it right.

Borderlands, tho. That's the perfection of A + B

Tbh if I wanted a bigger challenge I would just up the difficulty and tackle the superbosses/post-game dungeons.

like Persona, it's just nice to have the social stats auto-maxxed from my last playthrough so I can see events I missed the first time and spend more time on social links. If I wanted a challenge I'd fight like, Elizabeth, or the Reaper, or something.

When Chrono Trigger started "new game+", it was basically a built-in cheat option, allowing you start a game super-powered. That was my first impression of what new game+ is, and that's how it remains.

Tougher challenges, but better rewards.

I like Dragon's Dogma. Postgame world goes into a hardmode state with different challenging enemies everywhere on the map; or you can go into a NG+ with all your items rolled over at any time in the postgame.

B. I really don't see a point in replaying a game on an easier mode unless I just wanna rush through the game for a chievo I missed.

i want the 2nd run for the cast/enemies to be on the same/max level

like there wont be the option of just overpowering enemies with stats or
having overwhelming enemies just because you dont have access to a skill/weapon at a certain level

I hope I get the ability to punch Putin in the face.

I don't generally replay RPGs as they usually long enough already.

never played meaningful time on NG+. I've beaten the game, on to the next

B. A is appealing at first, but that appeal lasts for like 5 minutes before it stops feeling like a game at all.

Borderlands does it pretty great. I also like customizable NG+ modes like in Crosscode where you can choose what carries over(level, items, etc.) or toggle on some funny/broken modes. Out of the poll options though I prefer option 2 due to Fromsoft stuff.

I think Ratchet and Clank has the right idea. You keep all of your equipment and enemies get tougher, but you also unlock new upgrades for your weapons that eventually make the enemies easier too.

In general I'm not a fan of NG+. My favourite is probably Three Houses because of the insane amount of customizability it offers. Tinkering with it is engaging enough that the complete lack of any challenge is made up for. Not like the game was challenging in NG anyway.

But something like Dark Souls, NG+ is so immensely boring I can't stand it at all. Progression is gone. Challenge is gone. You're essentially just pumping more exp into a character to see stats go up without anything to do with it.

pegusus123456 posted...

I think Ratchet and Clank has the right idea. You keep all of your equipment and enemies get tougher, but you also unlock new upgrades for your weapons that eventually make the enemies easier too.

or, you can just play the next R&C

I like it to be customizable. I enjoy leveling up and I won't be doing that if levels carry over. If there's new challenges then it's fine though.

I like carrying over abilities and accessories the most. Makes it slightly easier while letting you experiment with different stuff.

It just occurred to me that Option B is basically the "second quest" from the old 8-Bit days.

To this day I still haven't beaten Castlevania or Zelda's second quests lol.

God mode.

With some exceptions I play games to relax.

Like I got pissed when I Uninstaller doom later reinstalled it and had my level progression and my collectibles but not my weapons weapon upgrades praeotor suit upgrades or runes. Playing the game from start to finish fully upgraded was my idea of good drunken fun.

I prefer the god mode style new game+. The other way is like the games with level scaling, it removes the sense of "I'm stronger than I was at the beginning" because the enemies at the starting areas are now just as strong. I don't want that.

Especially if the game is long. I want to plow through the story the second time. I don't want a 40 hour playthrough to take another 40 hours because the enemies got stronger.

pegusus123456 posted...

I think Ratchet and Clank has the right idea. You keep all of your equipment and enemies get tougher, but you also unlock new upgrades for your weapons that eventually make the enemies easier too.

To me, the multiplying currency while going hitless is the biggest draw. It gives you a new challenge while technically not really punishing you for failing it. Except that it'll take longer to afford the best stuff.

NoxObscuras posted...

I prefer the god mode style new game+. The other way is like the games with level scaling, it removes the sense of "I'm stronger than I was at the beginning" because the enemies at the starting areas are now just as strong. I don't want that.

Especially if the game is long. I want to plow through the story the second time. I don't want a 40 hour playthrough to take another 40 hours because the enemies got stronger.

Agreed with this, especially if the story has some interesting plot twists. There are times when I want to replay a game with the twists in mind, looking for the clues/signs and stuff. God of War 2018 comes to mind, I did New Game + on the easiest difficulty.

mooreandrew58 posted...

God mode.

With some exceptions I play games to relax.

Same.

I like it

Tales is the only series I know to get this right: give the player the choice on what to carry over. Play the game well enough to earn a lot of Grade and you can make your next playthrough a breeze. Or you can make it harder for yourself. The options are all there. It's absolutely brilliant.

B and then if there is even better stuff to collect in NG+ like with God of War then its even better.

I'd like it to turn the difficulty up, mainly the numbers. Not interested in being stunlocked by 5 minions dropped into the fight.

Also I thought it would be cool if DS1 let me spend saved up points in some way to play the base game over with weapons that I never get a chance to use. By the time you have an Obsidian Greatsword there's barely any of NG left to use it against and I'll have a far superior weapon that I used to get it on hand. Let me start with an Obsidian Greatsword.
Lately I've been thinking about how shit unlockables have become and I miss the game having some consecutive playthroughs lined up for you rather discouraging you from wanting to replay with boring slow segments and nudging you to get in line and buy another game.

I think they should re-do DS1 again but with more fun. A built in randomiser, every covenant you can join as an offline only unlockable starting class if you max out your covenant allegiance and a Black Knight starting class for beating the game. Multiplayer is 0/10 in Fromsoft games and I don't care for it. Just set me to online and give me all the replay options, that's the NG+ I want.

Star Ocean 3 posted...

Tales is the only series I know to get this right: give the player the choice on what to carry over. Play the game well enough to earn a lot of Grade and you can make your next playthrough a breeze. Or you can make it harder for yourself. The options are all there. It's absolutely brilliant.

This

I love how the Tales of series does NG+