Current Events > 74-year old man shoots 16-year old who broke into his home

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The kid would have knocked and asked for help if those were his intentions.

Collat posted...

And give them a chance to kill you first. Brilliant.

Try reading the next sentence.

Collat posted...

That's a weird assumption.

How so?

TheVipaGTS posted...

So many stories of people shooting family members in that exact scenario.

What do you mean? You mean shooting a relative that you thought was a burglar? Or specifically shooting a relative after saying "hands up?"

I haven't heard of either happening tbh. The closest thing I can think of is that I have read 2 specific incidences of off-duty cops going home to the wrong house/apartment and then murdering the unsuspecting resident in "self defense"

faizan_faizan posted...

How so?

Some 16 year olds weren't raised right and think crime is a good career path.

Guide posted...

Some 16 year olds weren't raised right and think crime is a good career path.

That's true but they would be dumb to act alone. In fact statistically most break-ins, home invasions are done by a group of people. When it's just one person then desperation could be a factor.

faizan_faizan posted...

That's true but they would be dumb to act alone. In fact statistically most break-ins, home invasions are done by a group of people. When it's just one person then desperation could be a factor.

Yes.

DarkRoast posted...

I pumped two into him there, Lowgher said. He went down the steps that way and I got him a third time I hope.

Sympathy lost.

I respect the right for someone to defend themselves at home. But I do not respect people who view it as their opportunity to unleash the vigilante justice without remorse.

Yeah, pretty much this.

The guy definitely wanted to shoot someone and him saying the teen was fleeing and he shot him again kinda makes it criminal, so fuck this guy

Understandable, but the relish this guy showed in being able to shoot someone is just icky

The_Creep_2020 posted...

Understandable, but the relish this guy showed in being able to shoot someone is just icky

I find it kind of disturbing that people here can't seem to distinguish between respecting the right for an individual to kill someone intruding on their property and literally enjoying the process of doing it and wishing you had injured the person further.

That kind of attitude is why the Second Amendment is always at-risk. Because it assumes that gun owners will be rational and responsible.

It may be "right" to kill someone who has invaded your property, I agree. But it's not justice to think that criminals deserve death simply because they're criminal. Dehumanizing criminals makes it easier to justify the "justice" you're exacting - but they ARE human. And while killing a home intruder is a rational thing to do especially since you don't know what they're up to and your safety matters, it's not something to celebrate.

To relish in passing ultimate judgment on a 16 year old (or saying you wish you had finished the job) is straight-up psychopath behavior. A 16 year old dying because he invaded someone's house is a tragedy both for the 16-year old and for the person defending his house. It's not a sport.

Did he pay the price for his actions? Yes.
Was the price fair? Probably not.
Could it have been safely avoided? Most likely not, too. The homeowner had to protect himself and his family and doesn't have the time to figure those things out.

Octans posted...

Try reading the next sentence.

By the time you find out if they have a gun, your ass could be shot. Cant always take chances.

faizan_faizan posted...

How so?

Well its based on nothing really. Teenagers are as prone to crime as anyone else, and can often be pretty impulsive. They dont need to be starving to do something stupid.

Guide posted...

Is there a source for this?

I doubt there's a comprehensive study on the honest motives of criminal behavior, but I know the people I've known. Anecdotal and all, but sometimes the criminal isn't a desperate starving orphan just looking for food. Sometimes it's a sociopath who just wants to steal shit because it's fun.

Fair to protect yourself but this guys seems like he took pleasure in it. A bit messed up.

He wanted an excuse, unfortunately someone gave it to him. Fair, next.

DarkRoast posted...

I find it kind of disturbing that people here can't seem to distinguish between respecting the right for an individual to kill someone intruding on their property and literally enjoying the process of doing it and wishing you had injured the person further.

That kind of attitude is why the Second Amendment is always at-risk. Because it assumes that gun owners will be rational and responsible.

It may be "right" to kill someone who has invaded your property, I agree. But it's not justice to think that criminals deserve death simply because they're criminal. Dehumanizing criminals makes it easier to justify the "justice" you're exacting - but they ARE human. And while killing a home intruder is a rational thing to do especially since you don't know what they're up to and your safety matters, it's not something to celebrate.

To relish in passing ultimate judgment on a 16 year old (or saying you wish you had finished the job) is straight-up psychopath behavior. A 16 year old dying because he invaded someone's house is a tragedy both for the 16-year old and for the person defending his house. It's not a sport.

Did he pay the price for his actions? Yes.
Was the price fair? Probably not.
Could it have been safely avoided? Most likely not, too. The homeowner had to protect himself and his family and doesn't have the time to figure those things out.

I agree completely, FWIW.

I mean, Im from a country where guns arent fetishised, so there are a lot of things about American gun culture that seem quite weird to me.

Fair next, hopefully the next time the little prick thinks about breaking and entering with whatever intent he had, he remembers how lucky he got to survive this piss poor decision of his.

Crazyman93 posted...

Fair next, hopefully the next time the little prick thinks about breaking and entering with whatever intent he had, he remembers how lucky he got to survive this piss poor decision of his.

BuT hEs JuSt A cHiLd :c

Guy seems to have a pretty worrying blas attitude about just shooting someone, but the kid broke into his house so fair, next