Current Events > Why should smokers and drug addicts be given free healthcare?

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BalloonBattle05 03/26/22 8:00:13 PM #1:	Especially if many of them are doing it because they know they can easily get away with abusing and taking advantage of the healthcare system? Forcing anyone to die would just cause more problems so we shouldnt do that but we could simply make them gamble their lives and intentionally delay the time it takes for them to get treatment. --- If locking online play behind a paywall with irrelevant games is a service then bricking your phone and not removing the brick without a fee is also a service. <cite>BalloonBattle05 posted [p:963779688] in Why should... [t:79960111]...</cite> <quote>Especially if many of them are doing it because they know they can easily get away with abusing and taking advantage of the healthcare system? Forcing anyone to die would just cause more problems so we shouldnt do that but we could simply make them gamble their lives and intentionally delay the time it takes for them to get treatment. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AloneIBreak 03/26/22 8:01:51 PM #3:	Who would you like to make the decision about who ought to receive "free healthcare"? --- "War does not determine who is right, only who is left." - Bertrand Russell Libertarian socialist. <cite>AloneIBreak posted [p:963779729] in Why should... [t:79960111]...</cite> <quote>Who would you like to make the decision about who ought to receive "free healthcare"? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kurdt032 03/26/22 8:03:17 PM #4:	The taxes on cigarettes in most countries with 'free healthcare' are a huge source of income for the health service. --- Darren Lacey is granny bashing scum <cite>kurdt032 posted [p:963779759] in Why should... [t:79960111]...</cite> <quote>The taxes on cigarettes in most countries with 'free healthcare' are a huge source of income for the health service. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nfearurspecimn 03/26/22 8:24:24 PM #5:	kurdt032 posted... The taxes on cigarettes in most countries with 'free healthcare' are a huge source of income for the health service. cigarettes cost just shy of $10 a pack here it's ridiculous --- Wake up. You have to wake up. currently a preta/hungry ghost Dai Grepher: I was wrong. My entire theory is incorrect. Zero Mission IS a remake of Metroid. <cite>nfearurspecimn posted [p:963780223] in Why should... [t:79960111]...</cite> <quote>kurdt032 posted... </cite> <quote>The taxes on cigarettes in most countries with 'free healthcare' are a huge source of income for the health service.</quote>cigarettes cost just shy of $10 a pack here it's ridiculous </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BeyondWalls 03/26/22 8:26:50 PM #6:	Whos getting free healthcare? --- END OF LINE <cite>BeyondWalls posted [p:963780269] in Why should... [t:79960111]...</cite> <quote>Whos getting free healthcare? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kurdt032 03/26/22 8:35:26 PM #7:	BeyondWalls posted... Whos getting free healthcare? Plenty of people all over the world. --- Darren Lacey is granny bashing scum <cite>kurdt032 posted [p:963780429] in Why should... [t:79960111]...</cite> <quote>BeyondWalls posted... </cite> <quote>Whos getting free healthcare?</quote>Plenty of people all over the world. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ultimate reaver 03/26/22 8:36:07 PM #8:	because every person deserves free health care --- I pray god will curse the writer, as the writer has cursed the world with this beautiful, stupendous creation, terrible in its simplicity, irresistible in truth <cite>ultimate reaver posted [p:963780444] in Why should... [t:79960111]...</cite> <quote>because every person deserves free health care </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lilORANG 03/26/22 8:39:29 PM #9:	They should get free cigarettes and drugs --- #FeelTheBern http://i.imgur.com/q5z4CUu.jpg http://i.imgur.com/6B9oFXh.jpg http://i.imgur.com/sy42Dlf.jpg <cite>lilORANG posted [p:963780519] in Why should... [t:79960111]...</cite> <quote>They should get free cigarettes and drugs</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ElleRagu 03/26/22 9:01:59 PM #10:	because they're people and all people need healthcare --- MARTIAL ARTS LANGUAGE COMMENCES <cite>ElleRagu posted [p:963780997] in Why should... [t:79960111]...</cite> <quote>because they're people and all people need healthcare </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheOtherMike 03/26/22 9:04:16 PM #11:	BalloonBattle05 posted... Especially if many of them are doing it because they know they can easily get away with abusing and taking advantage of the healthcare system? Literally no one smokes or uses drugs for this reason, but you knew that. <cite>TheOtherMike posted [p:963781042] in Why should... [t:79960111]...</cite> <quote>BalloonBattle05 posted... </cite> <quote>Especially if many of them are doing it because they know they can easily get away with abusing and taking advantage of the healthcare system?</quote> Literally no one smokes or uses drugs for this reason, but you knew that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DipDipDiver 03/26/22 9:04:26 PM #12:	BalloonBattle05 posted... Especially if many of them are doing it because they know they can easily get away with abusing and taking advantage of the healthcare system? Oh is that why people smoke and use drugs <cite>DipDipDiver posted [p:963781048] in Why should... [t:79960111]...</cite> <quote>BalloonBattle05 posted... </cite> <quote>Especially if many of them are doing it because they know they can easily get away with abusing and taking advantage of the healthcare system?</quote>Oh is that why people smoke and use drugs </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 03/26/22 9:04:35 PM #13:	What if they aren't receiving healthcare related to their smoking? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:963781053] in Why should... [t:79960111]...</cite> <quote>What if they aren't receiving healthcare related to their smoking? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Naysaspace 03/26/22 9:07:33 PM #14:	this is written by someone who lacks even the most fundamental understanding of "free" healthcare. i bet they also hate the "socialist agenda" of the democrats too right --- Nothin' like a slice of meat lover's after a good night -Larry Enticer <cite>Naysaspace posted [p:963781110] in Why should... [t:79960111]...</cite> <quote>this is written by someone who lacks even the most fundamental understanding of "free" healthcare. i bet they also hate the "socialist agenda" of the democrats too right </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CaptainStrong 03/26/22 9:08:28 PM #15:	By that logic, why should people who drink soda get free healthcare? Why should people who eat fast food get free healthcare? Why should people who eat candy get free healthcare? Why should people who don't exercise get free healthcare? <cite>CaptainStrong posted [p:963781124] in Why should... [t:79960111]...</cite> <quote>By that logic, why should people who drink soda get free healthcare? Why should people who eat fast food get free healthcare? Why should people who eat candy get free healthcare? Why should people who don't exercise get free healthcare? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
theAteam 03/26/22 9:08:41 PM #16:	TheOtherMike posted... Literally no one smokes or uses drugs for this reason, but you knew that. Lmao Acquiring lung cancer to own the taxpayers --- Buffalo Bills <cite>theAteam posted [p:963781127] in Why should... [t:79960111]...</cite> <quote>TheOtherMike posted... </cite> <quote>Literally no one smokes or uses drugs for this reason, but you knew that.</quote> Lmao Acquiring lung cancer to own the taxpayers </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 03/26/22 9:13:23 PM #17:	theAteam posted... Lmao Acquiring lung cancer to own the taxpayers Nah man. They know the doctors can just take out the cancer so they can keep smoking. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:963781218] in Why should... [t:79960111]...</cite> <quote>theAteam posted... </cite> <quote>Lmao Acquiring lung cancer to own the taxpayers</quote>Nah man. They know the doctors can just take out the cancer so they can keep smoking. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 03/26/22 9:16:00 PM #18:	Racking up surgeries for fun --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:963781277] in Why should... [t:79960111]...</cite> <quote>Racking up surgeries for fun </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Spiritlittle 03/26/22 9:29:14 PM #19:	Because Healthcare should be a right for all. You know, like the mass majority of 1sr world countries in the world. --- Official Fujin of the Mortal Kombat 11 board. Trails of Cold Steel is the most underappreciated JRPG series ever. <cite>Spiritlittle posted [p:963781555] in Why should... [t:79960111]...</cite> <quote>Because Healthcare should be a right for all. You know, like the mass majority of 1sr world countries in the world. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ButteryMales 03/26/22 9:33:19 PM #20:	kurdt032 posted... BeyondWalls posted... Whos getting free healthcare? Plenty of people all over the world. And those governments pay less for healthcare than Americans do. <cite>ButteryMales posted [p:963781638] in Why should... [t:79960111]...</cite> <quote>kurdt032 posted...</cite><quote>BeyondWalls posted...</cite><quote>Whos getting free healthcare?</quote>Plenty of people all over the world.</quote>And those governments pay less for healthcare than Americans do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 03/26/22 9:35:10 PM #21:	If someone doesn't think people in general should be able to have healthcare then I just assume they're a sociopath at this point --- https://i.imgur.com/6cPXvLN.jpg https://i.imgur.com/hVC4i6j.jpg <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:963781677] in Why should... [t:79960111]...</cite> <quote>If someone doesn't think people in general should be able to have healthcare then I just assume they're a sociopath at this point </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BalloonBattle05 03/26/22 10:53:01 PM #22:	I do think that obese people arguably should pay for their healthcare as well but I doubt any would actually want to take advantage of the system, and the ones that would do so suffer anyways enough --- If locking online play behind a paywall with irrelevant games is a service then bricking your phone and not removing the brick without a fee is also a service. <cite>BalloonBattle05 posted [p:963783221] in Why should... [t:79960111]...</cite> <quote>I do think that obese people arguably should pay for their healthcare as well but I doubt any would actually want to take advantage of the system, and the ones that would do so suffer anyways enough </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJPurple 03/26/22 11:01:33 PM #23:	Well because that opens more doors people wouldnt like. If youre going to deny me healthcare because I used to smoke then I want obese people who dont eat healthy/exercise to not get free healthcare. Also alcohol drinkers too. Alcohol causes plenty of damage to the body. No free healthcare for people who drink either. See? --- High Tide in the Snake's nest <cite>SSJPurple posted [p:963783389] in Why should... [t:79960111]...</cite> <quote>Well because that opens more doors people wouldnt like. If youre going to deny me healthcare because I used to smoke then I want obese people who dont eat healthy/exercise to not get free healthcare. Also alcohol drinkers too. Alcohol causes plenty of damage to the body. No free healthcare for people who drink either. See? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BalloonBattle05 03/27/22 8:38:15 AM #24:	CaptainStrong posted... By that logic, why should people who drink soda get free healthcare? Why should people who eat fast food get free healthcare? Why should people who eat candy get free healthcare? Why should people who don't exercise get free healthcare? Exercising can be difficult for many. You cannot die because you didnt go out smoking, but you can die from starvation or thirst. You can make the argument that they should be disqualified as well but they already suffer enough and their habits are more socially acceptable. DipDipDiver posted... Oh is that why people smoke and use drugs some people maybe --- If locking online play behind a paywall with irrelevant games is a service then bricking your phone and not removing the brick without a fee is also a service. <cite>BalloonBattle05 posted [p:963790299] in Why should... [t:79960111]...</cite> <quote>CaptainStrong posted... </cite> <quote>By that logic, why should people who drink soda get free healthcare? Why should people who eat fast food get free healthcare? Why should people who eat candy get free healthcare? Why should people who don't exercise get free healthcare?</quote> Exercising can be difficult for many. You cannot die because you didnt go out smoking, but you can die from starvation or thirst. You can make the argument that they should be disqualified as well but they already suffer enough and their habits are more socially acceptable. DipDipDiver posted... </cite> <quote>Oh is that why people smoke and use drugs</quote> some people maybe </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BalloonBattle05 03/27/22 8:39:54 AM #25:	TheOtherMike posted... Literally no one smokes or uses drugs for this reason, but you knew that. im sure there are people who do --- If locking online play behind a paywall with irrelevant games is a service then bricking your phone and not removing the brick without a fee is also a service. <cite>BalloonBattle05 posted [p:963790315] in Why should... [t:79960111]...</cite> <quote>TheOtherMike posted... </cite> <quote>Literally no one smokes or uses drugs for this reason, but you knew that.</quote> im sure there are people who do </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sczoyd 03/27/22 8:40:19 AM #26:	Everyone should have access to free (or affordable) healthcare. As it is, people who get cancer through no fault of their own are buried under debt and we're hung up on smokers, and Americans suffer --- "No merkins? Fie on thee." - zhukov1943 WoT <cite>Sczoyd posted [p:963790320] in Why should... [t:79960111]...</cite> <quote>Everyone should have access to free (or affordable) healthcare. As it is, people who get cancer through no fault of their own are buried under debt and we're hung up on smokers, and Americans suffer </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KiwiTerraRizing 03/27/22 8:41:45 AM #27:	Other struggling people are not your enemy. The rich are your enemy. No war but class war. --- Trucking Legend Don Schneider! <cite>KiwiTerraRizing posted [p:963790331] in Why should... [t:79960111]...</cite> <quote>Other struggling people are not your enemy. The rich are your enemy. No war but class war. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MedeaLysistrata 03/27/22 8:44:43 AM #28:	What war do you want me to pick TC --- "Why is ontology so expensive?" - JH [Is this live?][Joyless planet...] <cite>MedeaLysistrata posted [p:963790356] in Why should... [t:79960111]...</cite> <quote>What war do you want me to pick TC </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SweetieBeIle462 03/27/22 8:50:53 AM #29:	They shouldn't --- Mac Book Pro 16 - 6-Core i7-9750H @ 2.60GHz - 32gb DDR4 2667 MHz - Radeon Pro 5500M 8gb - 2TB Apple SSD Now Playing: Metroid Dread, Tales of Arise, Dead By Daylight <cite>SweetieBeIle462 posted [p:963790420] in Why should... [t:79960111]...</cite> <quote>They shouldn't </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BalloonBattle05 03/27/22 8:56:18 AM #30:	MedeaLysistrata posted... What war do you want me to pick TC what do you mean what war? --- If locking online play behind a paywall with irrelevant games is a service then bricking your phone and not removing the brick without a fee is also a service. <cite>BalloonBattle05 posted [p:963790462] in Why should... [t:79960111]...</cite> <quote>MedeaLysistrata posted... </cite> <quote>What war do you want me to pick TC</quote> what do you mean what war? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheOtherMike 03/27/22 9:29:45 AM #31:	BalloonBattle05 posted... im sure there are people who do No, you aren't. <cite>TheOtherMike posted [p:963790844] in Why should... [t:79960111]...</cite> <quote>BalloonBattle05 posted... </cite> <quote>im sure there are people who do</quote> No, you aren't. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nikra 03/27/22 9:47:40 AM #32:	Free healthcare is for everyone. Either you have it, or you don't. You can't split it up in A and B people. That's not how it works. <cite>Nikra posted [p:963791120] in Why should... [t:79960111]...</cite> <quote>Free healthcare is for everyone. Either you have it, or you don't. You can't split it up in A and B people. That's not how it works. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MedeaLysistrata 03/27/22 1:45:24 PM #33:	BalloonBattle05 posted... what do you mean what war? The Grover Cleveland Wars --- "Why is ontology so expensive?" - JH [Is this live?][Joyless planet...] <cite>MedeaLysistrata posted [p:963795573] in Why should... [t:79960111]...</cite> <quote>BalloonBattle05 posted... </cite> <quote>what do you mean what war?</quote>The Grover Cleveland Wars </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guide 03/27/22 1:49:59 PM #34:	tbh I'm for free healthcare on addicts in the same way that able-bodied people who apply for welfare programs are also made to attempt job placement services. In this case, free healthcare, but also you need to sign up for something to help quit smoking. --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU <cite>Guide posted [p:963795672] in Why should... [t:79960111]...</cite> <quote>tbh I'm for free healthcare on addicts in the same way that able-bodied people who apply for welfare programs are also made to attempt job placement services. In this case, free healthcare, but also you need to sign up for something to help quit smoking. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BalloonBattle05 03/27/22 2:05:53 PM #35:	Nikra posted... Free healthcare is for everyone. Either you have it, or you don't. You can't split it up in A and B people. That's not how it works. why not? --- If locking online play behind a paywall with irrelevant games is a service then bricking your phone and not removing the brick without a fee is also a service. <cite>BalloonBattle05 posted [p:963796007] in Why should... [t:79960111]...</cite> <quote>Nikra posted... </cite> <quote>Free healthcare is for everyone. Either you have it, or you don't. You can't split it up in A and B people. That's not how it works.</quote> why not? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HovaRex 03/27/22 2:07:42 PM #36:	How would you even know if people do drugs or smoke? You just expect them to tell the truth? --- I come back to you now, at the turn of the tide. <cite>HovaRex posted [p:963796050] in Why should... [t:79960111]...</cite> <quote>How would you even know if people do drugs or smoke? You just expect them to tell the truth? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CaptainStrong 03/27/22 2:11:54 PM #37:	BalloonBattle05 posted... Exercising can be difficult for many. Overcoming addiction is more difficult. You cannot die because you didnt go out smoking, but you can die from starvation or thirst. You can make the argument that they should be disqualified as well but they already suffer enough and their habits are more socially acceptable. Smokers and drug addicts already suffer enough too. Why don't you try having some compassion for them? <cite>CaptainStrong posted [p:963796135] in Why should... [t:79960111]...</cite> <quote>BalloonBattle05 posted... </cite> <quote>Exercising can be difficult for many.</quote>Overcoming addiction is more difficult. <quote>You cannot die because you didnt go out smoking, but you can die from starvation or thirst. You can make the argument that they should be disqualified as well but they already suffer enough and their habits are more socially acceptable.</quote>Smokers and drug addicts already suffer enough too. Why don't you try having some compassion for them? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FigureOfSpeech 03/27/22 2:13:54 PM #38:	Because I said so --- Always check timestamps... <cite>FigureOfSpeech posted [p:963796180] in Why should... [t:79960111]...</cite> <quote>Because I said so</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJPurple 03/27/22 2:22:04 PM #39:	BalloonBattle05 posted... why not? Because as this thread has proven the second you find a reason to deny one group that group can say well what about and anger ensues. There needs to be consistency. If smokers get no healthcare because they are willingly harming their bodies then drinkers and unhealthy eaters are in the same boat. You cant just pick on smokers/drug addicts because you dont like them. --- High Tide in the Snake's nest <cite>SSJPurple posted [p:963796335] in Why should... [t:79960111]...</cite> <quote>BalloonBattle05 posted... </cite> <quote>why not?</quote> Because as this thread has proven the second you find a reason to deny one group that group can say well what about and anger ensues. There needs to be consistency. If smokers get no healthcare because they are willingly harming their bodies then drinkers and unhealthy eaters are in the same boat. You cant just pick on smokers/drug addicts because you dont like them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cornmuffins 03/27/22 2:23:52 PM #40:	"Free healthcare sure would be swell. I know, I'll become a drug addict!" --- Getting C's and D's, saying thanks and please. You broke the golden rule, you're staying after school. <cite>Cornmuffins posted [p:963796378] in Why should... [t:79960111]...</cite> <quote>"Free healthcare sure would be swell. I know, I'll become a drug addict!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 03/27/22 2:25:55 PM #41:	BalloonBattle05 posted... many of them are doing it because they know they can easily get away with abusing and taking advantage of the healthcare system? lmao what do you even fucking mean by this --- "if i was a woman i would mail kyle rittenhouse my panties." ~ledbowman "Out of those two? Racist for me... easily." ~Vicious_Dios <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:963796431] in Why should... [t:79960111]...</cite> <quote>BalloonBattle05 posted... </cite> <quote>many of them are doing it because they know they can easily get away with abusing and taking advantage of the healthcare system?</quote> lmao what do you even fucking mean by this </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
a-c-a-b 03/27/22 2:30:03 PM #42:	I'm an alcoholic who lives in a place with free health care. The booze I buy is taxed quite heavily and those taxes help fund health care. I have every right to access a health care system that I help contribute to. --- Save for your doomed future <cite>a-c-a-b posted [p:963796507] in Why should... [t:79960111]...</cite> <quote>I'm an alcoholic who lives in a place with free health care. The booze I buy is taxed quite heavily and those taxes help fund health care. I have every right to access a health care system that I help contribute to. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJPurple 03/27/22 2:30:45 PM #43:	Cornmuffins posted... "Free healthcare sure would be swell. I know, I'll become a drug addict!" Yeahwhat kind of sheltered world do you come from I wonder. You think people just choose to become drug addicts? They just woke up one day and decided to get hooked on crack? Ok there Mister 90210 lol we live in the real world --- High Tide in the Snake's nest <cite>SSJPurple posted [p:963796528] in Why should... [t:79960111]...</cite> <quote>Cornmuffins posted... </cite> <quote>"Free healthcare sure would be swell. I know, I'll become a drug addict!"</quote> Yeahwhat kind of sheltered world do you come from I wonder. You think people just choose to become drug addicts? They just woke up one day and decided to get hooked on crack? Ok there Mister 90210 lol we live in the real world </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fam_Fam 03/27/22 2:31:51 PM #44:	pretty no one gets free healthcare. it's just a matter of how it is funded and who the money goes to <cite>Fam_Fam posted [p:963796548] in Why should... [t:79960111]...</cite> <quote>pretty no one gets free healthcare. it's just a matter of how it is funded and who the money goes to </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ButteryMales 03/27/22 2:39:27 PM #45:	SSJPurple posted... Yeahwhat kind of sheltered world do you come from I wonder. You think people just choose to become drug addicts? They just woke up one day and decided to get hooked on crack? Ok there Mister 90210 lol we live in the real world Corn was being sarcastic. Poe's law. <cite>ButteryMales posted [p:963796727] in Why should... [t:79960111]...</cite> <quote>SSJPurple posted...</cite> <quote>Yeahwhat kind of sheltered world do you come from I wonder. You think people just choose to become drug addicts? They just woke up one day and decided to get hooked on crack? Ok there Mister 90210 lol we live in the real world</quote>Corn was being sarcastic. Poe's law.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZMythos 03/27/22 2:40:37 PM #46:	Addiction is a disease, so they deserve healthcare just as much as anyone else. --- Rainbow Dashing: "it's just star wars" AutumnEspirit: kissu <cite>ZMythos posted [p:963796749] in Why should... [t:79960111]...</cite> <quote>Addiction is a disease, so they deserve healthcare just as much as anyone else. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MedeaLysistrata 03/27/22 2:53:30 PM #47:	TC, whataboutism re: covid denial is on the menu --- "Why is ontology so expensive?" - JH [Is this live?][Joyless planet...] <cite>MedeaLysistrata posted [p:963797039] in Why should... [t:79960111]...</cite> <quote>TC, whataboutism re: covid denial is on the menu </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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