Poll of the Day > Biden's foreign policy.

(+) Yeah! (+)

I couldnt be happier with his actions on the world stage. Just his handling of these kinds of issues makes my decision to vote for him worth it.

Dont agree? Bite me!

What in particular makes you happy about it?

EvilResident posted...

What in particular makes you happy about it?

He is based and chill pilled.

Two parts I like:

1) The fact that hes handling it the opposite way Trump would

and

2) Bite me!

What'd Biden do?

I'm not calling you out specifically, but lately I keep hearing stuff like "so-and-so is doing a good... or bad... stuff!", but will never say WHY or WHAT

He's certainly making the us look better to the rest of the world. It's nice that the USA got...some respect back.

Lokarin posted...

What'd Biden do?

I'm not calling you out specifically, but lately I keep hearing stuff like "so-and-so is doing a good... or bad... stuff!", but will never say WHY or WHAT

It's what he is not doing. Biden is not a reactionary/populist like Trump was.

Judgmenl posted...

It's what he is not doing. Biden is not a reactionary/populist like Trump was.

ironically (or intentionally if you are being clever) that is exactly what I was talking about...

Lokarin posted...

ironically (or intentionally if you are being clever) that is exactly what I was talking about...

Populists get annoyed when a non-populist is in power. This really isn't anything new.

So apparently Joe Biden said that Russia's leader Vladimir Putin "cannot remain in power" in Poland on Saturday.

Anyone find it ironic that Biden trying to get Russian people to do January 6 style insurrection?

Long story short: Biden's trying to do what he was was accusing Trump of doing.

Lobomoon posted...

So apparently Joe Biden said that Russia's leader Vladimir Putin "cannot remain in power" in Poland on Saturday.

Anyone find it ironic that Biden trying to get Russian people to do January 6 style insurrection?

Long story short: Biden's trying to do what he was was accusing Trump of doing.

What?
Trump planned a hissy fit riot knowing he was gonna lose an election.
How's this relate?

pedro45 posted...

What?
Trump planned a hissy fit riot knowing he was gonna lose an election.
How's this relate?

And Biden is talking about overturning the results of Russian election.

Not exactly the same but close enough.

Lobomoon posted...

And Biden is talking about overturning the results of Russian election.

Not exactly the same but close enough.

Close enough? Was Biden in the middle of invading a foreign country and causing the US to get sanctioned to the level Russia right now? Did he threaten to use nukes multiple times? How is it close at all?

Lobomoon posted...

And Biden is talking about overturning the results of Russian election.

Not exactly the same but close enough.

Not the same at all.

Biden's election was legitimate.

Putin jailed or murdered anyone that had a serious shot of beating him in a democratic election.

JOExHIGASHI posted...

Close enough? Was Biden in the middle of invading a foreign country and causing the US to get sanctioned to the level Russia right now? Did he threaten to use nukes multiple times? How is it close at all?

Not recently...

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/12/us/politics/joe-biden-iraq-war.html

Biden shouldn't have said "he can't stay in power": that was phrased poorly and it ultimately needs to be the decision of the Russian people. I agree with most of his actions re: Russia, but that was an unnecessary provocation/gaffe.

What Biden should have said was "the US can't tolerate a leader/country taking actions like this" or something to that extent. If the Russians choose to remove him, fine and good. (Given the manipulations of elections there it's not clear if there is truly a democratic way to get rid of him, but I suspect there is not) If the Russians don't choose to get rid of him, they'll have to live in a sanctioned/etc country. Tough choice for them (well, some of them: I get the sense you're OK with it Lobo).

Long story short: was saying that equal to Jan 6th? Uh, no, for many reasons: the most important being that Russia is unfortunately not a democratic country.

And you believe USA is a democratic country? In the last two elections all the presidential candidates were eliminated long before the election, except for Trump - a joke candidate to give people an illusion of choice.

Lobomoon posted...

In the last two elections all the presidential candidates were eliminated long before the election, except for Trump - a joke candidate to give people an illusion of choice.

I'm sorry, but you don't know what you're talking about. It sounds very much like you have been learning about the US through the propaganda of another country (perhaps Russia): nobody who lives in the US would view our system that way, and there's NOTHING we love to do more than complain about our system.

A few points:
1) The non-finalist candidates in US Presidential elections are eliminated before the elections...using ordinary citizen VOTING. Ordinary people voted for their favorite finalists, and those that won were the final candidates. Anyone can run, so long as they have enough backing or (unfortunately) money. It's not a perfect system and, yes, money and power still have influence, but outsiders can absolutely win. For example...
2) The leaders in Trump's (Republican) party HATED (and many still hate) him. He's an outsider (and a selfish crackpot), and they didn't want him. If the Republican leaders were offering an "illusion of choice" we NEVER would have had Trump. Trump was elected because he got the (uneducated) voters behind him and won with the backing of low level people.
3) That would never, ever happen in Russia no matter how much your leaders try to tell you that they are no different than the US. It simply isn't true.
4) Jan 6th was an attempt by a minority of the US population to overthrow democracy and keep Trump in power illegally. It was nasty and ugly, but it failed. We in the US need to continue to fight to keep democracy, but we still have it...for now. Russia has never had true democracy, though: only the appearance of democracy.
5) I still can't figure out your Trump quote. Are you making fun of him by attributing that quote to him? Are you trying to convince Americans that we should make peace because you think we like Trump? I can't count the numbers of ways that sounds ridiculous coming out of Trump...and he didn't originate that quote.

Aaand...I could point out how hard Russia/Putin tried to interfere by hurting Clinton and/or helping Trump in 2016 (not even counting the issue that got Trump impeached, which may or may not have been a big problem) but that's enough for now.
The US has problems, but the level of democracy in Russia vs the US is still night and day.

Lobomoon posted...

Not recently...

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/12/us/politics/joe-biden-iraq-war.html

You only responded to one thing I said. Please read the rest