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Is giving a $5 tip for a $25 haircut good enough?

20% tip, ya

Yes, more than good enough.

I put a pan around my head and cut myself.

In my country we only tip two places: Taxies and restaurants. Why the hell would I tip a heardresser that probably make more money than me???

how long does your haircut take? it's plenty unless it takes like an hour somehow.

$20 is my limit. The closer prices creep toward $20, the less I tip. My budget doesn't change just because corporations are greedy. If the cut is $15, I'll give a $5 tip. If it's $16, tip is $4 and so on.

The cancer that is "tip culture" doesn't change how much money I have to spend on certain things.

Absolutely. My barber charges $25 for his cuts and I always give him at least a $5 tip. I'll give him more if I'm having a particularly good day or if he squeezes me in for a cut on short notice.

Tipping a barber is normal?? 25-30 per cut is enough

My barber charge 35 for haircut/beard and I usually give him 55 lol

I'm so divided on tips for haircuts because I get them so often (once every 2-3 weeks)

When I was in Kuwait a Haircut was $6.65 and giving a $3.35 tip (just over 50%) to make it $10 was simple and easy

but now the same haircut is like $14.70 in the States and they don't even spend half the time as the barbers in Kuwait <__<

Also doesn't help I had a barber complain about a lack of a tip once and it kind of soured my opinion on giving barber tips >_>

I don't really like tipping based on the price of the goods or services, though I understand that doing so is the appropriate thing to do sometimes. I only tip a couple bucks in most situations

Any tip at all is good enough.

Not sure why Americans embraces the, "let's put the responsibility to pay a fair wage on the consumer!" Culture.

wackyteen posted...

I'm so divided on tips for haircuts because I get them so often (once every 2-3 weeks)

When I was in Kuwait a Haircut was $6.65 and giving a $3.35 tip (just over 50%) to make it $10 was simple and easy

but now the same haircut is like $14.70 in the States and they don't even spend half the time as the barbers in Kuwait <__<

Also doesn't help I had a barber complain about a lack of a tip once and it kind of soured my opinion on giving barber tips >_>

Those deployment cuts are clean.
I went to a base down in Texas once that had a place that would do razor fades for only $15. Clean as fuck. Best haircuts I've ever had.

PoopPotato posted...

Those deployment cuts are clean.
I went to a base down in Texas once that had a place that would do razor fades for only $15. Clean as fuck. Best haircuts I've ever had.

Wait, are you guys saying that soldiers have to pay for haircuts? Thats ridiculous.

My haircuts are usually about $70 after the tip, but I go somewhere nice.

Sounds high for a barber. Thought 10% was standard

Every single time that I have been to a barber no one there tipped besides me. Is this a lost art or something

So Murricans tip their barbers too, in addition to tipping every other person who is a representative of a company that happens to carry out the transaction on behalf of said company for them, but only if said transaction occurs in real life and only the one employee who happens to have social interaction with them, regardless of how many people were actually involved in providing that service or the quality of the tipped employee's performance? (Admit it, you also tip people if they do a shit job)

I see why so many people in the U.S. barely have any savings and live paycheck-to-paycheck.

Zero_Slash posted...

$20 is my limit. The closer prices creep toward $20, the less I tip. My budget doesn't change just because corporations are greedy. If the cut is $15, I'll give a $5 tip. If it's $16, tip is $4 and so on.

TIL all small, privately owned hair salons are big greedy corporations.

I haven't paid for a haircut for years.

LostForest posted...

TIL all small, privately owned hair salons are big greedy corporations.

There aren't any of those near me, so your comment is irrelevant.

I've never tipped a barber and I've never heard of tipping one. The only time I tip is at sit-down restaurants.

Zero_Slash posted...

There aren't any of those near me, so your comment is irrelevant.

What enigma town do you live that doesn't have a small town, corner barbershop?

I have a whole convoluted system for determining the tip, which I usually spend the entire time trying to remember.

About 20 percent is determined by their charisma. About half is based on the shampooing. A bonus if they give me any solid hair advice or style my hair an interesting way. I always just tell them to do whatever they want.

I never know what to tip my barber bc my cut is 40 and 20% seems like a lot for a haircut, but also hes a cool dude who also owns an amazing beer bar a couple blocks from my house and hell often give me free pours of rare stuff whenever hes in

so I give him $10 typically

Payzmaykr posted...

Wait, are you guys saying that soldiers have to pay for haircuts? Thats ridiculous.

My haircuts are usually about $70 after the tip, but I go somewhere nice.

Yeah, I've never known free haircuts for soldiers unless you're doing itself/got a good friend.

Even then most who cut their own just shave it all off

That's exactly what i do for my barber and he's never complained

Haircuts have gotten so much more expensive the past couple years. They used to cost 18-20 dollars where I live. Nowadays I'll be lucky to get one for 30 dollars. It's getting a bit much, almost getting to the point where I'm just going to buy an electric razer and get my family to buzz it off twice a year. Would save me a lot of money in the end of things.

Yes

SoIidLegacy posted...

So Murricans tip their barbers too, in addition to tipping every other person who is a representative of a company that happens to carry out the transaction on behalf of said company for them, but only if said transaction occurs in real life and only the one employee who happens to have social interaction with them, regardless of how many people were actually involved in providing that service or the quality of the tipped employee's performance? (Admit it, you also tip people if they do a shit job)

I see why so many people in the U.S. barely have any savings and live paycheck-to-paycheck.

It's a system in this country that needs to die.

It is not my responsibility to pay the employees a proper wage. Don't get mad at me for not tipping you, get mad at your employer for paying you below minimum wage.

Yes.

I have a membership to the place I go to so I get unlimited haircuts. I give a $40 tip which is probably overboard but the lady does a good job so I don't mind.

asdf8562 posted...

It's a system in this country that needs to die.

It is not my responsibility to pay the employees a proper wage. Don't get mad at me for not tipping you, get mad at your employer for paying you below minimum wage.

Most proper barbers, to my understanding, only make money off of your haircut, so their price covers the time and equipment utilized to cut your hair (and % of the rent for their place if they have one they estimate they need to incorporate into the cost of cut)

Now stylists and chain haircut places probably don't.

That's probably where the practice of tipping your barbers came from. Not because their employer doesn't pay them a wage, but because you, the customer, literally are paying them their wage directly

@wackyteen

Most proper barbers, to my understanding, only make money off of your haircut, so their price covers the time and equipment utilized to cut your hair (and % of the rent for their place if they have one they estimate they need to incorporate into the cost of cut)

Now stylists and chain haircut places probably don't.

That's probably where the practice of tipping your barbers came from. Not because their employer doesn't pay them a wage, but because you, the customer, literally are paying them their wage directly

Which lies the problem....

The employer literally isn't paying its employees at all or are not paying a proper minimum wage.

We Americans run on this cognitive dissonance of wanting better minimum wages, yet those same people demanding better wages defend tooth and nail the practice of employers not paying their employees.

The wealthy Americans love tipping culture because it gives them a lovely excuse to not pay their employees a proper wage.

Customers aren't required to even pay a tip lol. We Americans just expect one, and have the audacity to get mad at the customer instead of the employer making them work for tips instead of an actual minimum wage.

TC, you arent obligated to tip.

My grandma was a hairdresser so I just go visit her when I need a haircut lol. Free haircut and usually a free meal along with some random other food for later. Grandmas are the best.

Sportsaholic posted...

Murricans, you arent obligated to tip.

Ftfy

wackyteen posted...

Most proper barbers, to my understanding, only make money off of your haircut, so their price covers the time and equipment utilized to cut your hair (and % of the rent for their place if they have one they estimate they need to incorporate into the cost of cut)

Now stylists and chain haircut places probably don't.

That's probably where the practice of tipping your barbers came from. Not because their employer doesn't pay them a wage, but because you, the customer, literally are paying them their wage directly

Your own post you try to have it both ways......

You claim its not the employer not paying their staff a minimum wage, and in the same breath say it's the customer (not the employer, but the customer) who is paying. So in otherwords its exactly what I stated before, the employer isn't paying a proper minimum wage then....

It is the employers responsibility to pay their employees a proper wage. Not me, the customer.

wackyteen posted...

Most proper barbers, to my understanding, only make money off of your haircut, so their price covers the time and equipment utilized to cut your hair (and % of the rent for their place if they have one they estimate they need to incorporate into the cost of cut)

Now stylists and chain haircut places probably don't.

That's probably where the practice of tipping your barbers came from. Not because their employer doesn't pay them a wage, but because you, the customer, literally are paying them their wage directly

Yeah I would say tipping your barber is probably closer to the original intent of tips if anything, in that youre throwing them a few more bucks for giving you good service

plus for many the barber is almost a friend, someone you sit and chat with for an hour in addition to them providing you a service.

just a good way to keep up a good relationship with them, show you appreciate what they do for you

asdf8562 posted...

Your own post you try to have it both ways......

You claim its not the employer not paying their staff a minimum wage, and in the same breath say it's the customer (not the employer, but the customer) who is paying. So in otherwords its exactly what I stated before, the employer isn't paying a proper minimum wage then....

It is the employers responsibility to pay their employees a proper wage. Not me, the customer.

In my experience, non-chain barbers are their own employers or pay rent to work in a shared shop/location.

So they're not employed by anyone, really.

Its 20 percent so good enough. I tip 15 for 30 so 45.

wackyteen posted...

In my experience, non-chain barbers are their own employers or pay rent to work in a shared shop/location.

So they're not employed by anyone, really.

That's not a good excuse either. Charge accordingly or don't. It's your choice as your own employer. Charging less on the pretense of tips sets up a bad precedent for yourself and other establishments. It makes workers too reliant on tips.

One of the reasons minimum wage is held back among other reasons is the poor embracing tipping culture. It falsely represents a good thing for the poor and it greatly helps the rich since they can legally pay less.

Establishments need to pay minimum wage.

A good old fashioned CE tipping topic

asdf8562 posted...

That's not a good excuse either. Charge accordingly or don't. It's your choice as your own employer. Charging less on the pretense of tips sets up a bad precedent for yourself and other establishments. It makes workers too reliant on tips.

I think it actually works out better for them.

They can run their chair at-cost (or rounded up to the nearest dollar or so) and use the price to attract customers and then their skill earns them any (extra) profit.

wackyteen posted...

I think it actually works out better for them.

They can run their chair at-cost (or rounded up to the nearest dollar or so) and use the price to attract customers and then their skill earns them any (extra) profit.

Accept its not. I have 0 obligation to pay them a tip.

What you are speaking of on attracting customers at low prices, while not paying staff is the result of bad precedents. You speak of skill earning extra profit, but dance around that can happen without setting up a system that relies on staff getting tips to receive a proper wage.

This system that both the poor and rich promotes, is a system that is contingent on me the consumer feeling obligated to pay extra. Which again, I dont feel obligated to do, nor is any consumer forced to do.

Just a system that promotes cheap and or free labor.

I don't get why we can't just pay wait staff more but keep tips.

Like, I have a great job, get paid a good salary, and I receive tips all the time because people like me and like the job I do. I don't get the problem \_()_/

I tip 5 on a 30 haircut

LostForest posted...

I don't get why we can't just pay wait staff more but keep tips.

Like, I have a great job, get paid a good salary, and I receive tips all the time because people like me and like the job I do. I don't get the problem \_()_/

I don't think anyone is arguing tipping someone should stop. If a customer wishes to tip someone, it should be a because they want to, not America's ass backwards custom of tipping with workers expecting a tip.

The problem being addressed is the expectation by workers that tips should be paid. The American backwards precedents of promoting a wage system contingent on tips, while offsetting the responsibility from the employer, regardless if that employer is yourself.

No one is obligated or forced to tip you, being complacent on such a system to pay a fair wage is backwards. Even the poor defend this backwards system, and ofc the rich love it