Current Events > Finally saw Spider-Man: No Way Home *ending spoilers*

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Really good movie overall, but I feel like my enjoyment of it would have been way better if I had seen all of the pre-MCU movies as well. I saw the first two in the original trilogy, but then stopped there.

I feel like the ending's handwave of "Doctor Strange just makes everybody forget who Peter Parker even is" was kind of sloppy and created a lot more problems than it solved. For one, we saw that Jameson still has the big set for his InfoWars show and isn't operating out of his apartment anymore -- the set that he only got because Mysterio's video gave him the scoop he needed to hit the big time.

If Mysterio never revealed Peter's identity because nobody knows who the fuck Peter is, then how did Jameson get the scoop that landed him the fame and clout he now enjoys? Does nobody question this?

Further, there would be unexplainable gaps in everybody's memories who knew Peter before the spell. At May's grave, Happy says he knew her "through Spider-Man". How does this make any sense at all if he never knew that Peter was Spider-Man in the first place? What would have led him to become acquainted to May "through Spider-Man" if neither of them knew who he was?

Finally, if Doctor Strange's spell only affected memories and not reality, there's still a LOT of stuff that links Peter to being Spider-Man. I'm talking physical evidence -- news reports, magazine articles, photographs, legal documents, Flash's book. All that stuff doesn't stop existing due to a memory-wiping spell and should still be out there. So what happens when somebody in mid-shit picks up a magazine that has his face and name on it? This is a forgotten secret that won't stay forgotten or secret for more than five seconds, and that's being generous.

I think you just have to rationalize that Strange's spell is an ongoing effect. If someone sees physical proof of who Spider-Man is, the spell just works to make them ignore it.

The thing to understand about memory is people forget shit ALL THE TIME in real life and fill in gaps in ways that make sense to them.

TMOG posted...

Finally, if Doctor Strange's spell only affected memories and not reality, there's still a LOT of stuff that links Peter to being Spider-Man. I'm talking physical evidence -- news reports, magazine articles, photographs, legal documents, Flash's book. All that stuff doesn't stop existing due to a memory-wiping spell and should still be out there. So what happens when somebody in mid-shit picks up a magazine that has his face and name on it? This is a forgotten secret that won't stay forgotten or secret for more than five seconds, and that's being generous.

Directors confirmed they considered this and had an answer for this months ago. But logically this is just a reason to replace everybody if they reboot again because they didn't know what direction the character was going to go as far as keeping him in the MCU even longer or if Sony wants him back solo. As in they hire a new actor and all the old evidence has the old actors face on it.

The writers hinted that it was a full reality warping spell, getting rid of all the physical evidence of Peter Parker. However they said it would be way too complicated to try and explain the spell at the end of the movie, and instead they just focused on Peters emotional consequences. Spider-Man 4 will probably explain it

Why these movies gotta have me crying all the time? Like lighten up!