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pionear
03/14/22 9:06:30 AM
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/obama-tests-positive-for-covid-19-michelle-and-i-are-grateful-to-be-vaccinated-and-boosted/ar-AAV0OVh

While vaccinated, BTW...
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shadowsword87
03/14/22 10:36:19 AM
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Yes because vaccines don't automatically grant immunity, just reduce the severity of disease.
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Jen0125
03/14/22 11:21:43 AM
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pionear posted...
While vaccinated, BTW...

Yes, and?
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SantaKhala
03/14/22 11:25:27 AM
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The vast majority of politicians and "elites" have never taken the shot. They have known the side effects that Pfizer had been hiding for so long and forced to release recently.

The jab is for us commoners only.

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Revelation34
03/14/22 11:38:47 AM
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SantaKhala posted...
The vast majority of politicians and "elites" have never taken the shot. They have known the side effects that Pfizer had been hiding for so long and forced to release recently.

The jab is for us commoners only.


Stop watching YouTube.

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LeetCheet
03/14/22 11:40:07 AM
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Do people even care that much about Covid anymore?
Ever since the war started people seem to have stopped caring about it. At least in my town.

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BEERandWEED
03/14/22 3:54:19 PM
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Covid was an experiment.

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HornedLion
03/14/22 4:11:01 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
Yes, and?

It doesnt 100% stop Covid infection. Forget the fact that it significantly reduces the chances of a person dying of Covid. If it isnt a 100% cure then conservatives dont understand it, and they dont want it. Theyll consider it a massive failure especially since the left generally approves of it. Its either black or white, there is no in between.

P.S. Im not saying pionear is a republican. I dont know him that well to make that assumption. But he was trying to stir poop like a republican would.

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LinkPizza
03/14/22 4:35:56 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
Yes, and?

I think he was putting that before came in saying he should have gotten vaccinated

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Lokarin
03/14/22 4:58:51 PM
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Fireproofing your house doesn't stop the fire from starting

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Jen0125
03/14/22 5:13:38 PM
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LinkPizza posted...
I think he was putting that before came in saying he should have gotten vaccinated

No he wasn't. It's pionear. I want him to explain himself, not others explain for him.
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UltraIchi
03/14/22 5:42:19 PM
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BEERandWEED posted...
Covid was an experiment.


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Metalsonic66
03/14/22 5:44:14 PM
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So was your mom

ZING!

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Wanded
03/14/22 5:46:33 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
Stop watching YouTube.
those statements get banned from youtube because they're anti free speech

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Jen0125
03/14/22 5:47:39 PM
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Wanded posted...
those statements get banned from youtube because they're anti free speech

Freedom of speech applies to government interactions with our speech. Is YouTube the government?
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Wanded
03/14/22 6:04:12 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
Freedom of speech applies to government interactions with our speech. Is YouTube the government?
you're talking about the first amendment, free speech is a concept (which the first amendment is based on)

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BlackScythe0
03/14/22 6:36:21 PM
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Wanded posted...
you're talking about the first amendment, free speech is a concept (which the first amendment is based on)
If you talk about "free speech" the only thing anyone is going to respond to is educating you on the first amendment because it's literally all that matters.
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Jen0125
03/14/22 6:41:55 PM
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Wanded posted...
you're talking about the first amendment, free speech is a concept (which the first amendment is based on)

The concept of free speech doesn't exist
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HornedLion
03/14/22 6:57:45 PM
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BEERandWEED posted...
Covid was an experiment.


Metalsonic66 posted...
So was your mom

ZING!




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papercup
03/14/22 7:01:25 PM
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People we are entering Year Three of the Plandemic.

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BlackScythe0
03/14/22 7:05:20 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
The concept of free speech doesn't exist

Oh his concept definitely exists. It's just called tyranny, forcing people to publish his speech and punishing anyone who responds negatively to his speech. He's not in favor of free speech he is in favor of removing consequences for his speech while blocking the free expression of others.
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Wanded
03/14/22 7:13:30 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
Oh his concept definitely exists. It's just called tyranny, forcing people to publish his speech and punishing anyone who responds negatively to his speech. He's not in favor of free speech he is in favor of removing consequences for his speech while blocking the free expression of others.
that's what the left does, projection as always
forcing people to publish my speech? isn't youtube a free public platform? that's what the entire argument is about, they are clearly not acting as a free public platform hence they shouldn't get the benefits of one.

quote where i said people who oppose my view need to be punished and blocked or admit you are lying and strawmanning

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Metalsonic66
03/14/22 7:15:22 PM
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Wanded posted...
that's what the left does, projection as always
The irony

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PMarth2002
03/14/22 7:22:12 PM
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Fuck your "free speech" if you're posting misinformation that can get people killed

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BlackScythe0
03/14/22 7:25:12 PM
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Wanded posted...
that's what the left does, projection as always
forcing people to publish my speech? isn't youtube a free public platform? that's what the entire argument is about, they are clearly not acting as a free public platform hence they shouldn't get the benefits of one.

quote where i said people who oppose my view need to be punished and blocked or admit you are lying and strawmanning

Youtube is part of the google corporation. I don't actually even know what you're intending to convey with "free public platform" I'm guessing it is some kinda buzz word but I can't figure out what benefits you're speaking of.

And I don't have to quote you? People who are against freedom of speech as it exists in the first amendment are against it because they are upset their hate speech gets removed from the internet or upset when people don't want to employ them or date them.

You people are so hung up on the whole "Show me where I explicitly state this? How dare you get the meaning of my words only intended for people on my side!?"
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GanonsSpirit
03/14/22 7:38:36 PM
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Wanded posted...
isn't youtube a free public platform?
No, it's a privately owned website.

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papercup
03/14/22 7:49:24 PM
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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


Wanded, please tell me where Youtube fits into any of that, cus I don't see it. It clearly says CONGRESS. When you signed up to Youtube, you digitally signed a terms of use contract. If you didn't read it and didn't know what rights you agreed to give up, that's on you. The first amendment is very specific about what it protects.

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Wanded
03/14/22 9:06:22 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
Youtube is part of the google corporation. I don't actually even know what you're intending to convey with "free public platform" I'm guessing it is some kinda buzz word but I can't figure out what benefits you're speaking of.

And I don't have to quote you? People who are against freedom of speech as it exists in the first amendment are against it because they are upset their hate speech gets removed from the internet or upset when people don't want to employ them or date them.

You people are so hung up on the whole "Show me where I explicitly state this? How dare you get the meaning of my words only intended for people on my side!?"
you just admitted to being incapable of arguing with me directly and instead can only argue by making an imaginary link between me and a self perceived strawman of what you want the right to be, this inability is predominant with the left which is why there isn't much point for these talks unless liberals stop doing this.

yes, you do have to quote me actually because you have made the claim that i've said people who disagree with me need to be punished and blocked, not that there is a group out there in the ether with such a notion (which is true, they are called liberals). if you can't prove your claim you lied and spread slanderous misinformation about me, you know...the exact same thing a lot of liberals claim people should be banned for lol

how the hell do you insert yourself into this topic but don't know about public platform vs publisher which is the core issue of said topic? it has been obvious for a long time that you are keeping yourself in a leftist echo chamber and this is further proof (this also explains the formation of a false right wing in your head), regardless eventhough this place is a leftist echo chamber i distinctly remember arguing about this with adjl 2 years ago among other people and this topic came up in several topics, you probably forgot so anyway in a nutshell youtube, facebook, twitter and social media in general including this board are considered public platforms meaning it's people, the users, who make the content and the owners of the platforms have special privileges like being immune to being held accountable about stuff said on their platform by said users, because the aim is to simulate a free environment of exchange, platforms like the new york times for example don't enjoy such privileges since they curate and actively decide the content being put out making them a publisher, hence if one of their writers slanders they can get sued for it. due to big pushes from the left and threats by democrats to break big tech monopolies up, social media companies have started to curate more and more, specifically against right wing views, which brings up the debate of whether they are still public platforms or are they now publishers, if the courts decide they are acting like publishers they have to revert back to behaving like public forums.

a lot of this argument wouldn't be necessary had you poked your head out of the leftist echo chamber you inhabit which is why you should just come hang out at my conservative discord server :D

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Wanded
03/14/22 9:11:39 PM
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PMarth2002 posted...
Fuck your "free speech" if you're posting misinformation that can get people killed
misinformation that can get people killed is indeed bad, the notions of something being misinformation and that it is getting people killed need to be proven though

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Lokarin
03/14/22 9:12:45 PM
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You don't have the freedom to lie, it's called perjury.

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Wanded
03/14/22 9:16:47 PM
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papercup posted...
Wanded, please tell me where Youtube fits into any of that, cus I don't see it. It clearly says CONGRESS. When you signed up to Youtube, you digitally signed a terms of use contract. If you didn't read it and didn't know what rights you agreed to give up, that's on you. The first amendment is very specific about what it protects.
in the reality that if i make a video on youtube calling trump a nazi, trump can't sue youtube for slander


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Wanded
03/14/22 9:17:50 PM
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Lokarin posted...
You don't have the freedom to lie, it's called perjury.
BS0 just lied about me lol

as always, rules for thy but not for me

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Lokarin
03/14/22 9:21:17 PM
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Wanded posted...
BS0 just lied about me lol

as always, rules for thy but not for me

I am something of a near freespeech absolutist and the most common argument against that is the yelling of fire in a movie theatre... however, that IS allowed when there actually IS a fire.

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Cacciatos
03/14/22 9:30:27 PM
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Wanded posted...
BS0 just lied about me lol

as always, rules for thy but not for me

thee*. The word you're desperately grasping for is 'thee'. This is why people make fun of conservatives for fuckin failing at memes.
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Wanded
03/14/22 9:40:42 PM
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Cacciatos posted...
thee*. The word you're desperately grasping for is 'thee'. This is why people make fun of conservatives for fuckin failing at memes.
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Revelation34
03/15/22 5:50:54 AM
#36:


Lokarin posted...
You don't have the freedom to lie, it's called perjury.


The internet isn't a courtroom.

Lokarin posted...


I am something of a near freespeech absolutist and the most common argument against that is the yelling of fire in a movie theatre... however, that IS allowed when there actually IS a fire.


It's actually allowed anyway since that quote comes from a legal opinion and not from an actual part of a decision.

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pionear
03/21/22 6:13:57 PM
#37:


Jen0125 posted...
Yes, and?

Whassup with the sauciness? Just saying that even vaccinated you still can get it (for all the Mandates out there)
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agesboy
03/21/22 6:25:41 PM
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pionear posted...
Whassup with the sauciness? Just saying that even vaccinated you still can get it (for all the Mandates out there)
yes that is how vaccines work

are you just finding out how vaccines work

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Gaawa_chan
03/21/22 8:32:22 PM
#39:


Does Wanded have a humiliation kink or something? Good lord...

pionear posted...
While vaccinated, BTW...
Vaccines are immune system training dummies, basically. This means that they reduce the severity of a given disease, and also reduce its ability to spread to other people through you because your immune system is better able to suppress the attack.

Maybe look up some stuff about how the immune system functions, since you don't seem to know much about it and it really doesn't take very long to learn the basics. Plus, it's pretty cool.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBkVCpbNnkU&list=PLFs4vir_WsTyY31efyHdmtp9l7DpR0Wvi&index=20

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agesboy
03/21/22 10:40:44 PM
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you are severely likely to *not* be subjected to the worst of the worst symptoms if you're vaccinated; we've empirically demonstrated this

(i do think we shouldn't be so aggressively boosted but only because i think it's better if that vaccine was shipped to (etc) south africa and helped stopped the next mfin variant) (even from a selfish pov idk why the first inoculation of others isnt seen as a boon for you)

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pionear
03/23/22 3:11:16 PM
#41:


Gaawa_chan posted...
Maybe look up some stuff about how the immune system functions, since you don't seem to know much about it and it really doesn't take very long to learn the basics. Plus, it's pretty cool.

Please...don't tell me what I do and Don't kno...
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