Current Events > C/D: Pokemon should have a "Defend" option available to all Pokemon.

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jumi
03/11/22 10:13:28 PM
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Well?

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Robot2600
03/11/22 10:14:18 PM
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I can C that pokemon sucks

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DB_Insider
03/11/22 10:14:42 PM
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Need dodge option too

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DrizztLink
03/11/22 10:18:27 PM
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DB_Insider posted...
Need dodge option too
All Ash options, all the time.

"AIM FOR THE HORN!"

"bro i am a bidoof and that is a golduck how the fuck do i do any of that"

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WilliamPorygon
03/11/22 10:18:37 PM
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Alakazam:
Has IQ of 5000
Can't remember more than 4 moves at a time

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Kim_Seong-a
03/11/22 10:22:21 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
All Ash options, all the time.

"AIM FOR THE HORN!"

"bro i am a bidoof and that is a golduck how the fuck do i do any of that"

Its been 20 years and we still cant use the Thunder as armor


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Jshipp24
03/11/22 10:22:38 PM
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They do its called protect and there is counter play around it.

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rideshort
03/11/22 10:58:02 PM
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Protect, Detect, King's Shield and more.

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Heartomaton
03/11/22 10:59:22 PM
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Bruh how is a Magikarp gonna defend itself

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Lordgold666
03/12/22 12:42:45 AM
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WilliamPorygon posted...
Alakazam:
Has IQ of 5000
Can't remember more than 4 moves at a time
lol

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Wii_Shaker
03/12/22 12:43:49 AM
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Heartomaton posted...
Bruh how is a Magikarp gonna defend itself
Splash.

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Heartomaton
03/12/22 12:46:10 AM
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Wii_Shaker posted...
Splash.

...but Splash literally does nothing...

...it's not even a Water-type move, it's Normal...

:l

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Wii_Shaker
03/12/22 12:48:03 AM
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Heartomaton posted...
...but Splash literally does nothing...

...it's not even a Water-type move, it's Normal...

:l
That's the thing I hate about String Shot. It literally just makes the ass beating take longer. It's bug type but since it drops speed it doesn't even matter.

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averagejoel
03/12/22 12:56:02 AM
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Jshipp24 posted...
They do its called protect and there is counter play around it.
I think moves that boost defenses, whether we're talking stat boosters or screens, could also reasonably be considered a "Defend" option

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Wii_Shaker
03/12/22 12:58:54 AM
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averagejoel posted...
I think moves that boost defenses, whether we're talking stat boosters or screens, could also reasonably be considered a "Defend" option
Only it takes a move slot. It would be cool if a pokemon had a defensive moveset and an offensive moveset.


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averagejoel
03/12/22 1:07:19 AM
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Wii_Shaker posted...
Only it takes a move slot.
yeah, because that's how pokemon works. all their offensive moves also require moveslots

It would be cool if a pokemon had a defensive moveset and an offensive moveset.
I can see the appeal of switching out moves more easily for competitive play (or even for in-game), but I think realistically you'd probably end up with something more like a battle moveset and an HM moveset

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Wii_Shaker
03/12/22 1:09:54 AM
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averagejoel posted...
yeah, because that's how pokemon works. all their offensive moves also require moveslots

I can see the appeal of switching out moves more easily for competitive play (or even for in-game), but I think realistically you'd probably end up with something more like a battle moveset and an HM moveset
They want to keep Pokemon stupid. They could make it technical and extremely competitive but modern Poke'mon appeals to casuals and I'm sure they want to keep it that way.

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averagejoel
03/12/22 1:15:14 AM
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Wii_Shaker posted...
They want to keep Pokemon stupid. They could make it technical and extremely competitive but modern Poke'mon appeals to casuals and I'm sure they want to keep it that way.
so being able to switch out moves more easily would change it enough that it wouldn't be pokemon anymore, but somehow having an offensive moveset and a defensive moveset wouldn't?

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ChocoboMog123
03/12/22 1:22:25 AM
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Wii_Shaker posted...
They want to keep Pokemon stupid. They could make it technical and extremely competitive but modern Poke'mon appeals to casuals and I'm sure they want to keep it that way.
Are you saying you want to give pokemon basically 8 moveslots? That doesn't make the game more competitive, it just changes how it's played (and probably for the worse).

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DB_Insider
03/12/22 1:22:42 AM
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Heartomaton posted...
...but Splash literally does nothing...

...it's not even a Water-type move, it's Normal...

:l
Z-splash Tsareena:...

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averagejoel
03/12/22 1:45:50 AM
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ChocoboMog123 posted...
Are you saying you want to give pokemon basically 8 moveslots? That doesn't make the game more competitive, it just changes how it's played (and probably for the worse).
I wouldn't mind seeing a specific mode on Showdown with 8 moveslots. it could be interesting. but yeah, it would definitely be super different. my first thought is that it would make pokemon like Sharpedo significantly better, because they wouldn't have to worry about choosing between, say, Ice Fang, Earthquake, and Close Combat. hell, we'd probably see Flip Turn on it

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DocDelicious
03/12/22 1:48:25 AM
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Strong deny

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Wii_Shaker
03/12/22 1:49:11 AM
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averagejoel posted...
I wouldn't mind seeing a specific mode on Showdown with 8 moveslots. it could be interesting. but yeah, it would definitely be super different. my first thought is that it would make pokemon like Sharpedo significantly better, because they wouldn't have to worry about choosing between, say, Ice Fang, Earthquake, and Close Combat. hell, we'd probably see Flip Turn on it
This guy gets it.


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jumi
03/12/22 1:19:13 PM
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I'm just talking about a defend option like in Final Fantasy. You don't want to use a spell or item, and it's not a good idea to regular attack (Guard Scorpion, flying enemy, etc.), so you hit left or right on the control pad and choose defend. Works even if you have a gun which obviously can't guard against a sword.

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DeadBankerDream
03/12/22 1:20:43 PM
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Sounds like a butt-slut idea, TC.

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averagejoel
03/13/22 9:23:52 AM
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jumi posted...
I'm just talking about a defend option like in Final Fantasy. You don't want to use a spell or item, and it's not a good idea to regular attack (Guard Scorpion, flying enemy, etc.), so you hit left or right on the control pad and choose defend. Works even if you have a gun which obviously can't guard against a sword.
in pokemon, that's generally when you switch. or use a move that does something other than directly attack

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pegusus123456
03/13/22 9:44:23 AM
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Wii_Shaker posted...
They want to keep Pokemon stupid. They could make it technical and extremely competitive but modern Poke'mon appeals to casuals and I'm sure they want to keep it that way.
I feel like competitive Pokemon is already complicated enough lol

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Tyranthraxus
03/13/22 9:54:25 AM
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"defend" is switching out a Pokemon with one that has resistance / immunity to the current Pokemon's STAB

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