Current Events > Remember in the 80s when McDonalds gave away Confederate Flag stickers?

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https://twitter.com/toys_retro/status/1499098252305739778?s=21

Should they apologize for this?

Different era, time, world.

Nope, it was a very different time.

Hop103 posted...

Nope, it was a very different time.

A much more racist and bigoted time

Hop103 posted...

Nope, it was a very different time.

It was like 1983, not 1883. So McDonalds owes no apologies for embracing a symbol of hate and white supremacy because it happened the same year E.T. came out?

For selling Dukes of Hazard shit back in the 70s and 80s? You serious, bro?

DirkDiggles posted...

For selling Dukes of Hazard shit back in the 70s and 80s? You serious, bro?

Lol.

Does he not realize that this stuff was based on a show that was on a major Network in prime time and ran for 7 seasons?

Maybe if he saw Daisy Duke, hed get over his outrage.

And keep in mind, McDonalds profited off this. It wasnt some passive thing. They made money by selling these Happy Meals. They made money off the Confederate Flag and helped normalize it for children growing up in the 80s.

TC, sounds like your issue is with the Dukes of Hazard, which had been pulled from air last I heard. Time to focus on present issues instead.

DirkDiggles posted...

For selling Dukes of Hazard shit back in the 70s and 80s? You serious, bro?

Yep. Shouldnt everyone who made money off that symbol apologize? Im not even saying pay back the money. Just Im sorry.

Hop103 posted...

Nope, it was a very different time.

You're right. That was one of the best times in American history

It feels like you already know the answer to your own question but for some reason you refuse to answer it.

You better fuckin' not be calling the General Lee racist.

The car is innocent, man.

Prestoff posted...

It feels like you already know the answer to your own question but for some reason you refuse to answer it.

The answer is clearly, yes. They should apologize. Any company who made money off a symbol of racial hatred should offer up a simple apologize. How can anyone move forward if we continue to deny our past?

Slayer_22 posted...

You better fuckin' not be calling the General Lee racist.

The car is innocent, man.

Its literally a tribute to General Robert E Lee.

Eh, I hate racists, the confederacy, and dumb southerners who propagate and yearn for it, but the whole DOH/General Lee thing is relatively harmless. The Dukes were some good ol boys and were never meanin no harm by having the rebel flag on their car. Yeah, it's an awful flag on a car named after a confederate general, but it was a dumb ignorant southern thing and not coming from a place of malice I think.

Really this sounds like a parody of what the left thinks anyway. Most don't give a shit about this.

Of all the things mcdeez needs to fix and atone for this is literally at the bottom of the list

This is why people don't take s***libs srsly

BeyondWalls posted...

Its literally a tribute to General Robert E Lee.

It's a vehicle named after him, the car isn't racist. The person is racist.

https://youtu.be/meEN8tfT7b4&t=40s

Slayer_22 posted...

It's a vehicle named after him, the car isn't racist. The person is racist.

Do you think most people literally think a flag is a sentient being that believes black people are inferior?

Or, do most people mean that a flag is a symbol used by sentient human beings as a physical representation of their beliefs, which are racist?

hockeybub89 posted...

Do you think most people literally think a flag is a sentient being that believes black people are inferior?

Or, do most people mean that a flag is a symbol used by sentient human beings as a physical representation of their beliefs, which are racist?

It's literally a car, bro. And there wasn't a racist intention in the show, or in the car. Calm down, not everything is meant to offend.

Slayer_22 posted...

It's literally a car, bro. And there wasn't a racist intention in the show, or in the car. Calm down, not everything is meant to offend.

So a show with a Commander Himmler car would have been fine? What if the Dukes are just really proud of their German heritage and history and love the aesthetics of the swastika?

Dumbass America literally still trying to romanticize a symbol of the worst era in national history.

https://i.imgur.com/YvqDXY2.jpg

hockeybub89 posted...

So a show with a Commander Himmler car would have been fine? What if the Dukes are just really proud of their German heritage and history and love the aesthetics of the swastika?

Dumbass America literally still trying to romanticize a symbol of the worst era in national history.

You're literally calling a car from a TC show racist, and getting incredibly heated over it.

Also did you just call the civil war the 'worst era in national history'? What, did the trail of tears mean nothing to you? Jesus fucking Christ. Nice to know what matters to you.

Southernfatman posted...

, but the whole DOH/General Lee thing is relatively harmless.

You understand that its this harmless behavior that normalizes a symbol of hate? Thats how you get people saying, its not racist. Its a symbol for the South. Its this normalizing behavior that kept the flag flying over courthouses until like 2020.

Slayer_22 posted...

It's a vehicle named after him, the car isn't racist. The person is racist.

So youre fine keeping the statues of him? What about road names and schools? What tributes are allowed and what arent?

BeyondWalls posted...

So youre fine keeping the statues of him? What about road names and schools? What tributes are allowed and what arent?

No.

The car just isn't racist. Stop trying to project racism.

Slayer_22 posted...

The car just isn't racist.

But it is normalizing a symbol of hate.

Slayer_22 posted...

You're literally calling a car from a TC show racist, and getting incredibly heated over it.

Also did you just call the civil war the 'worst era in national history'? What, did the trail of tears mean nothing to you? Jesus fucking Christ. Nice to know what matters to you.

I am not calling a car racist. I am calling any and all uses of Confederate iconography to be racist. I fucking hate that shit and everyone who uses it since they are either ignorant or malicious. You don't get to just remove the meaning of things.

I'm sorry you find me so shallow for viewing a horrific civil war fought over the right to slavery as a really bad thing.

I don't care whether or not McDonald's apologies. I care about continued attempts to sanitize the Confederacy. Surely if the Southern heritage is so great, there has to be other symbols to show your pride.

Even the Duke Boys abandoned the General Lee, recently.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZwfXUURS3g

BeyondWalls posted...

But it is normalizing a symbol of hate.

No, it's changing the context of a symbol of hate into a symbol of some good ol boys.

hockeybub89 posted...

I am not calling a car racist. I am calling any and all uses of Confederate iconography to be racist. I fucking hate that shit and everyone who uses it since they are either ignorant or malicious. You don't get to just remove the meaning of things.

I'm sorry you find me so shallow for viewing a horrific civil war fought over the right to slavery as a really bad thing.

You're literally calling a car racist, and you're also ignoring the suffering of Native Americans and pretending like only one race's suffering matters. It's disgusting, considering racism doesn't just stop with one race.

Smdh.

Slayer_22 posted...

No, it's changing the context of a symbol of hate into a symbol of some good ol boys.

You're literally calling a car racist, and you're also ignoring the suffering of Native Americans and pretending like only one race's suffering matters. It's disgusting, considering racism doesn't just stop with one race.

Smdh.

I was unaware "worst thing" meant "only bad thing in human history. fuck all other victims."

And what is the reasoning for attempting to redefine a symbol of hate? The Confederacy wasn't corrupted by bad actors. Bad actors commissioned it. Why not retire it? What is actually the point of the time and effort to turn a short-lived rogue state into a representation of the good parts of the American South? And why is it so indistinguishable from historical ignorance?

Clearly the statues are doing the opposite of teaching history.

Questionmarktarius posted...

Even the Duke Boys abandoned the General Lee, recently.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZwfXUURS3g

Notice the camera angles to avoid showing the flag and I believe its even been covered over in one shot. Even people directly involved with the show have come to accept that its dangerous to normalize a symbol of racial hatred.

No, that's what the f'n car had on it. Blame the show if you want to blame someone.

hockeybub89 posted...

I was unaware "worst thing" meant "only bad thing in human history. fuck all other victims."

And what is the reasoning for attempting to redefine a symbol of hate? The Confederacy wasn't corrupted by bad actors. Bad actors commissioned it. Why not retire it? What is actually the point of the time and effort to turn a short-lived rogue state into a representation of the good parts of the American South? And why is it so indistinguishable from historical ignorance?

Man, you're way too hung up on calling a damn car racist. It's a dumbass flag, man, the General Lee isn't racist regardless of your attempts to rewrite history.

Also, you're saying one is worse than another. They're both bad. But no, one is worse, because Hockeybub89 on GameFAQs decreed it.

KayfabeTactics posted...

No, that's what the f'n car had on it. Blame the show if you want to blame someone.

Im sorry. Was McDonalds forced into this promotion? They knew about the Confederate Flag and paid to use it. It wasnt sprung on them at the last second. They paid a lot of money to be able to make those Confederate Flag Happy Meals. And they happily did it willingly.

Who here was even alive in the 80s?

BeyondWalls posted...

Im sorry. Was McDonalds forced into this promotion? They knew about the Confederate Flag and paid to use it. It wasnt sprung on them at the last second. They paid a lot of money to be able to make those Confederate Flag Happy Meals. And they happily did it willingly.

Okay, do you think we should cancel all the rap music that bashes LGBTQ+ people? What about all the TV shows that hated on gay men or made fun of them?

Slayer_22 posted...

the General Lee isn't racist regardless of your attempts to rewrite history.

This is what happens when you normalize symbols of hate. 40 years later people are lining up to tell you theres nothing wrong with it if you use it a certain way. Youre literally defending a tribute to Robert E Lee.

Ill never understand this fascination that people have with going through old Tweets and past events to try and stir up trouble now.

Like, do you really have so little going on in your life that you feel the need to do this? What do you even get out of it?

This is so stupid. It has to be trolling.

rexcrk posted...

Ill never understand this fascination that people have with going through old Tweets and past events to try and stir up trouble now.

Like, do you really have so little going on in your life that you feel the need to do this? What do you even get out of it?

Social Media rewards people that do it because it's the "in" thing to do right now. Just like it's "okay" to hate on Russian people right now because of what the leader in Russia is doing.

eston posted...

Who here was even alive in the 80s?

Me. And guess what? I had that happy meal. Not the General Lee. I was there the week they gave out Roscos police car. But I grew up in the South. I had Confederate Flags flying over my government buildings, in my amusement parks, and at my school. I was taught it was a symbol of southern pride. And you know what? I was lied to. I was brainwashed into believing that this racist crap wasnt hurting anyone. And I believed that for many years. So if I can do anything to reverse that error (including pointing out how this stuff worms its way inside our homes) then Im going to do it.

Imagine having so sad a life that you have to waste time looking for old "issues" to pearl clutch about.

TentacleDemon posted...

This is so stupid. It has to be trolling.

It is. Probably just trying to make the left look bad.

Evillink2000 posted...

Imagine having so sad a life that you have to waste time looking for old "issues" to pearl clutch about.

The Confederate Flag was flying over courthouses until 2020. People carried it into the Capitol on Jan 6. Its one of the 6 flags of Six Flags amusement parks. You dont think its worth looking back to see how we got here?

BeyondWalls posted...

This is what happens when you normalize symbols of hate. 40 years later people are lining up to tell you theres nothing wrong with it if you use it a certain way. Youre literally defending a tribute to Robert E Lee.

Says the guy calling a car racist.

eston posted...

Who here was even alive in the 80s?

The 80s didnt have twitter accounts to post the outrage, and feed watchers to spread it even further.

Theyve been trying to get this flag out for some time. I remember before Superbowl 28, Bruce Smith of the Bills raised a stink about it being displayed over the field. These days it seems the flag does have one useful purpose.

The ones sporting it are IDing themselves to the rest of us.

"I fly Nazi flags because I'm a history buff and proud German. Your fault if you can't tell me apart from the people flying the flags because they are white supremacists."

This is about normalizing racist ideologies and symbols. And I say that as someone who lives next door to a highway named after a slave owner known for beating slaves. People dont even care that theyre diving up and down a tribute for an especially cruel slave owner. Why? Because the road is so old that weve normalized that tribute to a monster.