Current Events > Russia agrees to a ceasefire for civilians to evacuate, then continues shelling

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Slayer_22
03/05/22 7:32:25 PM
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https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/05/russian-state-media-claims-temporary-ceasefire-at-mariupol-volnovakha.html

Ukraine and Russia agreed the partial ceasefire Saturday in order to allow civilians to leave the cities of Mariupol and Volnovakha. The fighting was due to stop at 10 a.m. Moscow time (2 a.m. ET) Saturday, but there have been multiple reports of continued attacks after this time.

Ukraine's Parliament said that Russia was "thwarting" the evacuation of civilians from Mariupol.

"The Russian military does not adhere to the [ceasefire] and continues the shelling of Mariupol and its environs. The evacuation of civilians is suspended for security reasons," it said.

Mariupol City Council also said that shelling by Russian forces continued, and confirmed that it had postponed its evacuation of residents.

"Due to the fact that the Russian side does not adhere to the ceasefire and continued shelling both Mariupol and its environs, for security reasons, THE EVACUATION OF THE POPULATION IS POSTPONED," the council said on Telegram. It told residents to return to a place of safety.

"Negotiations are currently underway with the Russian Federation to establish a [ceasefire] and ensure a secure humanitarian corridor."

The council had expected the ceasefire to last from 9 a.m. until 4 p.m. local time and was planning to evacuate residents to Zaporizhzhia, a city to the west, on municipal buses.


Scum.

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JuanCarlos1
03/05/22 7:35:31 PM
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Again....what will be the purpose of an empty Ukraine? And Ukraine is surrounded by eben more NATO nations...what's the fucking endgame here

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DarkChozoGhost
03/05/22 7:35:48 PM
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Warcrime?

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Slayer_22
03/05/22 7:37:14 PM
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JuanCarlos1 posted...
Again....what will be the purpose of an empty Ukraine? And Ukraine is surrounded by eben more NATO nations...what's the fucking endgame here

I don't think there is an Endgame. Putin is just psychotic.

DarkChozoGhost posted...
Warcrime?

There has been a new one every single day of the war. This one doesn't surprise me.

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Solution_45
03/05/22 7:37:59 PM
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yikes
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Funkydog
03/05/22 7:38:03 PM
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DarkChozoGhost posted...
Warcrime?
One of many during this.

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Looked gf
03/05/22 7:41:00 PM
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Russia being Russia

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darkmaian23
03/05/22 7:46:59 PM
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My Pikachu couldn't be more shocked.
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BilalPowell
03/05/22 7:48:28 PM
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Why does Russia even bother agreeing to a ceasefire then ignoring it? Do they just like trolling Ukraine?

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Slayer_22
03/05/22 7:51:48 PM
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BilalPowell posted...
Why does Russia even bother agreeing to a ceasefire then ignoring it? Do they just like trolling Ukraine?

I heard a pretty good point earlier.

It could be for their own personal narrative.

"We set up a ceasefire, but they began attacking us, so we were forced to attack back!"

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Funkydog
03/05/22 7:53:42 PM
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That or they just want to kill as many civilians as possible to lower morale and force a surrender.

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kelemvor
03/05/22 8:17:32 PM
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BilalPowell posted...
Why does Russia even bother agreeing to a ceasefire then ignoring it? Do they just like trolling Ukraine?

For Putin, peace talks are a tool for getting more troops and supplies ready to start fighting again. If I was Ukraine I would just tell them to drop dead.
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DuneMan
03/05/22 8:22:06 PM
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kelemvor posted...
For Putin, peace talks are a tool for getting more troops and supplies ready to start fighting again. If I was Ukraine I would just tell them to drop dead.
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VigorouslySwish
03/05/22 8:24:14 PM
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JuanCarlos1 posted...
Again....what will be the purpose of an empty Ukraine? And Ukraine is surrounded by eben more NATO nations...what's the fucking endgame here

Backing down admits he made a mistake. Admitting you made a mistake shows weakness. This is Putin

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Tsuyoi3
03/05/22 8:26:33 PM
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Probably a lack of communication between soldiers and rank.
After all, Russia has screwed everything else up massively, so it wouldn't surprise me they didn't tell everyone.

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DarthDemented
03/05/22 8:29:02 PM
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About the only other alternative I can think of is that if the reports of the shitty comms equipment then the ones shelling probably didn't even get the memo.

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Slayer_22
03/05/22 8:39:08 PM
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Tsuyoi3 posted...
Probably a lack of communication between soldiers and rank.
After all, Russia has screwed everything else up massively, so it wouldn't surprise me they didn't tell everyone.

DarthDemented posted...
About the only other alternative I can think of is that if the reports of the shitty comms equipment then the ones shelling probably didn't even get the memo.

They've been shelling civilians since day 1. Is the memo they were supposed to get saying 'hey, just got a few hours, don't shell civilians?'

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nfearurspecimn
03/05/22 8:44:29 PM
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fucking evil

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Just_a_loser
03/05/22 8:48:34 PM
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JuanCarlos1 posted...
Again....what will be the purpose of an empty Ukraine? And Ukraine is surrounded by eben more NATO nations...what's the fucking endgame here
https://youtu.be/If61baWF4GE

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thronedfire2
03/05/22 8:49:33 PM
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JuanCarlos1 posted...
Again....what will be the purpose of an empty Ukraine? And Ukraine is surrounded by eben more NATO nations...what's the fucking endgame here

that's the point, they want the buffer between Russia and the NATO states. that's why they're so opposed to anyone else in the area joining NATO

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kelemvor
03/05/22 9:14:17 PM
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thronedfire2 posted...
that's the point, they want the buffer between Russia and the NATO states. that's why they're so opposed to anyone else in the area joining NATO

It's strange to me that Putin is so scared, because NATO doesn't invade other countries to expand it's territory, that's what Russia does. If you look at a list of military interventions that NATO has done over the decades, it's *usually* protecting other minorities from genocide or toppling corrupt despots.

https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/major-nato-military-interventions.html

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Just_a_loser
03/05/22 9:29:57 PM
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kelemvor posted...
It's strange to me that Putin is so scared, because NATO doesn't invade other countries to expand it's territory, that's what Russia does. If you look at a list of military interventions that NATO has done over the decades, it's *usually* protecting other minorities from genocide or toppling corrupt despots.

https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/major-nato-military-interventions.html
And that's why Putin doesn't want NATO getting bigger and having too much hold over the east. He wants to expand Russia and bring it back to the height of the Soviet Union. NATO is their biggest obstacle.

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PoundGarden
03/05/22 9:40:38 PM
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DarkChozoGhost posted...
Warcrime?

The interesting thing about war crimes is once you commit one you may as well commit them all. Very little difference between a 20 yr sentence, 40 yrs etc and execution for a warlord. They know if they're brought to trial, one way or another their life is over and they'll never see freedom again

Literally in for a penny, in for a pound.

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MachineJaipur
03/05/22 10:04:02 PM
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JuanCarlos1 posted...
Again....what will be the purpose of an empty Ukraine? And Ukraine is surrounded by eben more NATO nations...what's the fucking endgame here

Maybe they'll continue their bullshit Nazi rhetoric and say that Nazis escaped Ukraine and are in a NATO country and use that as some bullshit justification to invade.

Probably will do that for Moldova
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Slayer_22
03/05/22 11:16:31 PM
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Bump.

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Ricemills
03/05/22 11:30:53 PM
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DarthDemented posted...
the ones shelling probably didn't even get the memo.

at this point, i believe that they never intended to be given the memo.


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Slayer_22
03/05/22 11:45:31 PM
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Ricemills posted...


at this point, i believe that they never intended to be given the memo.


100%.

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Yelsin
03/06/22 12:52:26 AM
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JuanCarlos1 posted...
Again....what will be the purpose of an empty Ukraine? And Ukraine is surrounded by eben more NATO nations...what's the fucking endgame here

Putin will be more than happy to depopulate Ukraine and have ethnic Russians move in (including from the disputed eastern Ukraine regions). Give himself a large buffer state along with Belarus.
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KayfabeTactics
03/06/22 12:58:50 AM
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No, you fool, RUSSIA didn't agree to that. Some of the people that are in power in Russia did. Stop with this fucking bull shit

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Slayer_22
03/06/22 1:49:27 AM
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KayfabeTactics posted...
No, you fool, RUSSIA didn't agree to that. Some of the people that are in power in Russia did. Stop with this fucking bull shit

The fuck are you talking about?

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Ricemills
03/06/22 1:51:31 AM
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Slayer_22 posted...
The fuck are you talking about?

i think he meant that only a few executives in Russia agreed to ceasefire, but not the whole Russian army itself

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Machete
03/06/22 1:51:59 AM
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Slayer_22 posted...
Scum.

god damn right

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Balnazarr
03/06/22 1:53:19 AM
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thronedfire2 posted...
that's the point, they want the buffer between Russia and the NATO states. that's why they're so opposed to anyone else in the area joining NATO

Thats not why. They want the resources. Ukraine is really rich in farmland and natural gas. Stuff that Russia needs.
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Slayer_22
03/06/22 1:55:39 AM
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Ricemills posted...


i think he meant that only a few executives in Russia agreed to ceasefire, but not the whole Russian army itself

Yeah, but who was he responding to?

And why does that matter? Why does that mean hostility? And why does the ministry of defense in Russia call for such a response? Like, what, should we only blame Russia if Putin himself directly says something? Lest we be 'fools'? Because Putin also lies out his ass.

Like, that dude's post was nonsense, and directed at someone, but the nonsense means it can be directed at anyone lol

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DrPrimemaster
03/06/22 1:57:51 AM
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Doesn't Ukraine have really good farmland? Way better than Russia or something?

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KayfabeTactics
03/06/22 2:01:52 AM
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Ricemills posted...
i think he meant that only a few executives in Russia agreed to ceasefire, but not the whole Russian army itself

No, what I mean is that Russians are not evil or the bad guys. Russians = every Russian, and thats just fucking Ignorant

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Ricemills
03/06/22 2:10:00 AM
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and there goes my good faith.

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Slayer_22
03/06/22 2:25:03 AM
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KayfabeTactics posted...


No, what I mean is that Russians are not evil or the bad guys. Russians = every Russian, and thats just fucking Ignorant

Lmao do you think I'm blaming every single individual Russian or something?

Lunacy.

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KayfabeTactics
03/06/22 2:28:48 AM
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Slayer_22 posted...
Lmao do you think I'm blaming every single individual Russian or something?

Lunacy.

A lot of people do, tbh. Wouldnt doubt it. Anything that gives some people the ammo to hate anything they jump all over it. Lots of Russian hate now, tons, tbh

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Slayer_22
03/06/22 2:41:23 AM
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KayfabeTactics posted...


A lot of people do, tbh. Wouldnt doubt it. Anything that gives some people the ammo to hate anything they jump all over it. Lots of Russian hate now, tons, tbh

Literally no situation in which I'm doing any of that in this topic.

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KayfabeTactics
03/06/22 2:52:21 AM
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Slayer_22 posted...
Literally no situation in which I'm doing any of that in this topic.

Maybe not in this topic, maybe. Didnt read the whole thing. But with CE in general? For sure

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Slayer_22
03/06/22 3:46:36 AM
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KayfabeTactics posted...


Maybe not in this topic, maybe. Didnt read the whole thing. But with CE in general? For sure

So the insults are fair game because you assume I do it in other topics? Lol

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Kloe_Rinz
03/06/22 3:47:39 AM
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sanctions aren't enough. putin needs to die along with every general taking orders from him, down the chain of command
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omega cookie
03/06/22 3:51:08 AM
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KayfabeTactics posted...
No, what I mean is that Russians are not evil or the bad guys. Russians = every Russian, and thats just fucking Ignorant

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Couldn't even troll on your main?

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Slayer_22
03/06/22 11:48:49 AM
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Bump!

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KayfabeTactics
03/06/22 1:14:49 PM
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omega cookie posted...
Couldn't even troll on your main?

Main got set to the void until the end of the month because I said it was terrible a bunch of people were going to die because of this war.

And I'm not trolling. It's stupid to think ANYTHING is all the same. Russians, Women, Baseball players, people on Gamefaqs, ect. It just makes it easier for certain people to hate when you think everyone/thing is the exact same

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